[Closed] My daughter sees ghosts

silverneedle - Member
anyone ever heard of / done smudging?

If I understand the term correctly, i.e. smudging, then yes, a very common practice in the far east. 😛

The method might be different in different parts of the world but essentially I think the purpose is the same.

silverneedle - Member
anyone ever heard of / done smudging?
If it was me i smudge the **** out of that place, Just sayin

Depending on "who" you have really, sometimes the effect of the smudging is only temporary coz "they" will return ... 😛

ctk - Member

In a previous house:

Next door neighbours teenage daughter killed herself in her bedroom, shortly after this family moved out and new family with 2 young kids moved in. These kids would not go into the bedroom where she killed herself because of a ghost. (new family had zero knowledge of suicide) SPOOKY!

D'oh! You have moved house otherwise this is an opportunity you should never miss to find out for yourself if there is such thing ...

Time travel is clearly the answer here or she has found your stash of mummy&daddys cookies, the funky ones

kids have imaginations... who woulda thunk it

****ing batshit mental adults attribute it to a non existent fairytale phenomenon... give me strength

Op have you recently met any caretakers or museum curators who seemed innocuous at the time of meeting? Would you describe your daughter as pesky or meddling?

Why are there no ant ghosts?
Or frog ghosts?
If ghosts can walk through walls, why don't they fall through floors?

I need the rule book on ghosts, i suspect...

DrP

It's been suggested that under certain circumstances, especially when there's violence, or a person in a heightened emotional state, the event can 'imprint' or 'record' itself on the fabric of the building or locality.

I saw a film many years ago based around this premise but in the end the "recording" became a malevolent ghost and forced the researcher to walk up a set of stone steps and fall off to his death. Tried Googling with no joy; anyone remember something like this?

**** batshit mental adults attribute it to a non existent fairytale phenomenon... give me strength

I'm not attributing it to anything. I can't see them.

Ooh, its time for my oft-repeated 'ghost' (?) story again:

"I may have told this one before.

20 years ago. December, cold and dark outside. At mum and dads. Fell asleep in my old room in the attic, woke up about half 5 with my mum calling me down for dinner.

Went down the stairs, was about to turn left into the kitchen, glanced left, there's my dad standing in the living room doorway,facing away from me, staring into the room. Something odd about the way he was standing made me pause for a minute and stare. Couldn't place it somehow, like he was looking at something terrible on the TV.

Turned and went into the kitchen, there's dad eating his dinner- turned around- no figure in the living room doorway any more.
A little shocked, I mention it to mum and dad- dad looks surprised- mum doesn't. Claims she's been seeing a male figure around the house for years (not my dad).

18 months later and we're waiting for the undertakers to set up my brother's coffin in the living room after his death 2 days before in a motorbike accident. They leave, closing the living room door discreetly and leaving us to it.

We're all in the kitchen, and dad takes the first step. He walks to the living room door, opens it, but stands there, unable to continue. I'm a few steps behind, and walk past him. As I do so, crapping my pants, I think- where and when did I seen him standing like that before?"

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/spookystrange-encounters

JonW - The Stone Tape: [url= http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0069316/ ]Link[/url]

It's a Nigel Kneale one - brilliant prescient TV writer (see also The Year of the Sex Olympics).

"Where are all the cavrmen ghosts?"

I once slept on a robbed out Neolithic burial mound.

I was a bit spooked at pissing off the original occupant.

During the night my phone lost signal once or twice. On my way home I fell off my bike...

Makes you think.

I once, err, 'did the deed' with my now wife in a burial mound...

On the walk back to the car (a mile or so, not a long walk) the day turned from a lovely summers day to a huge thunderstorm and we got utterly and completely soaked to the pants...

Mine says Grandad Noel doesnt visit anymore She is 5 and was born a good 15 years after grandad Noel passed, shes also pretty good on the details of him.

I once had a wee up the side of Hardknott Roman Fort... then slipped and fell in it.

Angry Roman ghosts.

Makes you think eh?

Clover - that's the one, thanks. Remember thinking it was real creepy at the time. Nearly 45 years ago; how time flies!

My son used to see people in our old house when he was a kid - not scary type ghosts, just people. And he always used to see people wandering about in a field that we couldn't see. Found out only a few weeks ago that there is a burial chamber and signs of ancient habitation there.
My daughter used to ask 'who is the lady in the front room' when she was a nipper too. Of course no one was in there that we could see.
My theory (completely unverified and un researched, of course) is that all kids can see things like that until we start telling them that they don't exist, so they stop.

fatbobb - Member
...Found out only a few weeks ago that there is a burial chamber and signs of ancient habitation there.

Show me a place in Britain that [i]doesn't[/i] show signs of ancient habitation.

we've been living and dying all over this island for thousands of years.

or that kids have massive imaginations that adults over interpret

Has anyone ever tried to play pretend games with young kids[under 5] they are all over the place with huge leaps of "logic" and things that make no sense
Trying to interpret their "Play" as real and reality as false is pretty daft. if your theory is true then the force is real, and magic and telekinesis and almost everything else imaginable till we tell them otherwise

Ghosts dont exist only people who think ghosts exist are real.

Ghosts dont exist only people who think ghosts exist are real.

Prove it 🙂

Good point and understood, but don’t all things exist until discovered otherwise? A kid doesn’t know that ghosts, the force, telekinesis etc. don’t exist, so in [i]their[/i] reality they do. Is ‘reality’ an individual state (as in a child’s reality) or a ‘group’ state (i.e. an adult’s)
What about all the adults posted on this very thread – are we over interpreting their imagination too?
@ahwile – agree, just an illustration of my experience.

Which bit?
The later is considerably easier than the former 😉

don’t all things exist until discovered otherwise?

ghosts do exist, just not necessarily the spirit of great aunt sally come to communicate.

if you look at the research work done with infra-sound causing oscillation of the eye and the resultant grey ghosting in your vision, then it is easy to extrapolate, that on a stormy night, at the end of long corridor in a an old mansion that wind can cause low frequency reverberation of windows resulting in a "grey lady" being fleetingly seen.

It is an actual observed Item and as such "exists" its just not Timothy Claypole or the rest of rent-a-ghost 😀

^The burden of proof is on those who assert their existence. I've seen/felt a bunch of odd stuff over the years but am almost certainly inclined to believe these shadowy 'ghosts' to be hallucinatory, ie the result of my brain/eyes being subjected to incidental infrasound or similar. I can't prove it, especially after the facts. If on the other hand it turns out there is some quantum woo-woo...I wouldn't know where to begin with that.

don’t all things exist until discovered otherwise?

That is very poorly worded. No imagination does not make things "real" it just means you are pretending,

Yes, that is poorly worded. Here it is again

Do all things exist until discovered otherwise? 😀

😆

A simple test:

[u][b]1. Mental health & medical condition[/b][/u]
Do you have mental health problem in your family (genetically). i.e. do you have schizophrenia, severe depression, hallucination etc in your family historicity?

[b][u]2. Environment[/u][/b]
Do you live in an area severely polluted by chemicals? i.e. fungus spore, toxic chemical, chemical waste in your location where you live or where built your house on?

[b][u]3. Habit[/u][/b]
Are you addicted to drugs? Marijuana, crack, medication etc?

[b][u]4. Upbringing[/u][/b]
Do you have proper upbringing? i.e. are telling lies encourage or simply ignore?

[b][u]5. Attention seeking[/u][/b]
Are you loved? Do you constantly crave for attention from your family members etc?

[b][u]6. Objective[/u][/b]
Do you gain anything by simply saying what you have seen? Do you earn money? Attention? Favour etc?

If you answer No to all the above then ...

"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

on a stormy night, at the end of long corridor in a an old mansion that wind can cause low frequency reverberation of windows resulting in a "grey lady" being fleetingly seen.

Growing up in quite a religious family/setting, the mix of "it's all a load of nonsense" and "don't mess with the occult, it's dangerous" comments could be quite interesting.

@ chekw...

quite a coherent post given the poster.... 🙂

*edit - my last response/post was in reply rich c's 'prove it'.

alpin - Member

@ chekw...

quite a coherent post given the poster....

Interesting innit to see others so quick to dismiss something so quickly.

Sometimes it really gets me thinking how rational these people are. 😛

If they exist or otherwise this was done fascinating pre bed reading and I certainly had the spookier dreams last night.

Who knows but until a sceptic tells me what happens after death well I'll still be all ears to the idea of spirits etc.

One of my mates is really interested in ghosts and supernatural stuff. He contacted a local amateur paranormal investigation group a while back to go on some overnight visits with them. He's of the opinion that ghosts exist. After a few visits with them though he challenged them. He said that after one or two unusual but perfectly explainable incidents they were quite ready to label a place as verified by them as being haunted - they just discounted all reasonable suggestions of alternative possibilities to explain what had happened.

I think he left them after telling them he thinks they talk out of their...

Ive always been interested in the subject, despite having had no experiences myself. I can't believe that with so many stories from serious people, that something paranormal isnt occurring.

It's not like anyone can prove it one way or the other, but just seem too many situations and coherent stories to dismiss them all.

Apparently as a young child I used to talk to 'the old man' who lived in the spare room of my grandmothers house - needless to say, there was no [i]actual[/i] old man. I have the vaguest of memories of him - he looked a bit like the guy on the front of The Cure's 'Staring at the Sea' album. I never felt scared, he was just . . . there. I remember my mother's alarm when I told her.

Now I'm old and cynical, I still can't explain that. Perhaps, as has already been mentioned, young minds are more receptive and don't have the filters that we learn / are taught.

Our brains are great at filtering out what we don't expect to see.

That's one thing whilst scanning a scene looking for something else and where a gorilla is not important, but another entirely w when you are sitting at rest for extended time in your own house not doing much else.

hammerite - Member
I think he left them after telling them he thinks they talk out of their...

Women are more likely to see them because of their negative energy while men is full of positive energy unless you are dying or in bad health, in that case you will have more negative energy.

Location wise ... hhmmm ... plenty in UK due to past conflicts. Go to area where there are less people but many death in the past. Try there. Or go to places of execution or witch burning whatever you lot loved in the past ... that should be fun.

If "they" follow you home don't blame me coz I will not be responsible for your fun time. 😛

For the skeptics try this go to places where there are suicide(s) then challenge the entity(s) to follow you home. Take the mickey out off it. Try it. If there is no such thing other than carbon dust then nothing will happen. Again, I ain't responsible for your fun. (at least give it a try ... then report back)

Women are more likely to see them because of their negative energy

You've met Mrs CB too then?

codybrennan - Member

Women are more likely to see them because of their negative energy

You've met Mrs CB too then?

Is this "ghost" and "imaginary friend" the same?

wolfenstein - Member
Is this "ghost" and "imaginary friend" the same?

If kids play with toys by themselves they might have "Imaginary friend" ... just creative imagination.

But if they speak to someone while not playing toys then they might be speaking to "someone", you then go through my checklist.

until a sceptic tells me what happens after death well I'll still be all ears to the idea of spirits etc.

I can't believe that with so many stories from serious people, that something paranormal isnt occurring.

It's not like anyone can prove it one way or the other,

but just seem too many situations and coherent stories to dismiss them all.

Have you seen magicians - tbh if they did not admit it was all tricks we could all easily fall for their tricks

There is no proof of ghosts there are only folk who want to believe.

Junkyard - lazarus
SO all we need is enough serious people to say it then its true
The problem her is the serious people - what exactly does this actually mean- are about 1% ghosts 995 not ghosts

No, you still go through my checklist.

Not one of them can be replicated under controlled experimental conditions

Yes, that's the standard line of argument but my view is that:

1. Somehow I think "they" do not want to become a circus act. Remember they were once like us.

2. I think the equipment we use to detect is not up to the job. i.e. why pump cash into advancing research into making instrument to detect them anyway? They are dead!

Hence, this topic will never be understood accurately.

There is no proof of ghosts there are only folk who want to believe.

Better that way coz knowledge can be a dangerous thing in the hand of the positivists.

Spooky reading is fun and get the heeby jeebies.

Not enough evidence otherwise we'd believe in Santa or Fairies!

Update.

The wife went to check on the boy when we went to bed last night. She was hit in the leg by a flying paint pot travelling at knee height. The boy was sound asleep and it didn't come from his direction. The paint pot had previously been in a sealed box.

The wife went to check on the boy when we went to bed last night. She was hit in the leg by a flying paint pot travelling at knee height. The boy was sound asleep and it didn't come from his direction. The paint pot had previously been in a sealed box.

Edit: actually. Even to you who I have known so long I think that joke might not really work that well.

Whilst I am a total sceptic and don't 'feel' or 'see' things, we did get locked out of our shop by a key turned in a mortice lock from the inside once. Things flew around a bit too. The shop was on Shoreditch High Street, so we'd put that down to traffic. Then there was the Strauss incident. My ex got a new CD player and was very proud. He put some Strauss on to test it. But we wanted to leave before the disc was finished. Turned it off. It popped back on again. After an off / on battle that lasted long enough for us to decide we weren't entirely in control, we left it on. Saying that it didn't matter as long as it was off by morning. Which it was.

It did feel as though the building grumbled a bit about our arrival, then kind of shrugged and let us get on with it, flying stuff diminished with time. Maybe it liked Strauss.

But I don't believe in ghosts per se. After all, a lot of people have died and surely there'd be more about if that's what happens to us. So it's down as an unexplained experience for me.

Harry_the_Spider - Member
Update.

Clover - Member
But I don't believe in ghosts per se. After all, a lot of people have died and surely there'd be more about if that's what happens to us. So it's down as an unexplained experience for me.

Or looked at a bit more optimistically, you rustle the dust and then it settles. Having taken in some Strauss.

As an aside, the place was built in the 18th century from the remains of the previous church and over part of the graveyard. Anyone buried there would have predated Strauss. Among the denizens was Shakespearan actor Richard Burbage. I wouldn't have minded sharing a bit of romantic era music with him.

Clover - Member
Or looked at a bit more optimistically, you rustle the dust and then it settles. Having taken in some Strauss.

As an aside, the place was built in the 18th century from the remains of the previous church and over part of the graveyard. Anyone buried there would have predated Strauss. Among the denizens was Shakespearan actor Richard Burbage. I wouldn't have minded sharing a bit of romantic era music with him.

Anyway, try blasting Babymetal loud to see if you can "wake someone up" ... see if you get a slap or bruises appearing on your body. Introduce them to metal. i.e. see if Richard Burbage likes metal music.

The former caretaker at my mum's church has often been spotted apparently, despite being dead for 30 odd years. My mum said he used to spend all his time there dusting things and pottering about when he was alive to escape his ghastly family. After his death when his worst daughter moved away, and therefore left the church, he started to appear. Been spotted by loads of people including the yoga class who didn't know him when he was alive.

Nice bloke by all accounts, very friendly and he keeps the place tidy.

i have the opposite problem a messy ghost who leaves bike bits all over the house 😉

Harry_the_Spider - Member
The former caretaker at my mum's church has often been spotted apparently, despite being dead for 30 odd years. My mum said he used to spend all his time there dusting things and pottering about when he was alive to escape his ghastly family. When his worst daughter moved away, and therefore left the church, he started to appear. Been spotted by loads of people including the yoga class who didn't know him when he was alive.

Nice bloke by all accounts, very friendly and he keeps the place tidy.

She was horrendous. Used to bully him something rotten according to my mum, that's why he used to hide in the church. She married some poor sod and moved south leaving him, and everyone else, in peace.

We didn't try metal. An eclectic collection of English folk, Bach, romantics. My ex had a bit of a thing about Parsifal. I guess nothing was objectionable.

I've got pretty fond memories of the place, used to run a little gallery in it and it was lovely.

Funny thing about ghosts: why aren't there lots more of them?

Current world population is 7.4 Billion people and it's pretty crowded in some places - so considering how many people have lived and died through the millennia shouldn't we be seeing ghosts pretty much everywhere we look?

(And that's before we consider animal, plant and bacteria ghosts!)

My wife swears she has witnessed ghosts. She is "sensitive" to stuff like that. She claims to "feel" if something bad has happened in a place, and every time we look into it she's right. Has happened too many times now for me to completely dismiss it, though I would call myself a skeptic to the core...

GrahamS - Member
Funny thing about ghosts: why aren't there lots more of them?

Animal and bacteria are just forms of beings but not plant.

skidsareforkids - Member
My wife swears she has witnessed ghosts. She is "sensitive" to stuff like that. She claims to "feel" if something bad has happened in a place, and every time we look into it she's right. Has happened too many times now for me to completely dismiss it, though I would call myself a skeptic to the core...

Funny thing about ghosts: why aren't there lots more of them?

And (as pointed out on XKCD) at least half the (alive) population of the planet have smartphones that can take photos. So how come there aren't heaps of photos of ghosts?

Perhaps because...they don't exist?

The former caretaker at my mum's church has often been spotted apparently, despite being dead for 30 odd years. My mum said he used to spend all his time there dusting things and pottering about when he was alive to escape his ghastly family. When his worst daughter moved away, and therefore left the church, he started to appear.

Perhaps he faked his own death to escape his awful daughter?

A friends daughter of a little younger than that used to tell us all of the man and lady that used to sit at the bottom of her bed. She described them in great detail. She wasn't particularly bothered by it either.
We did a bit of research because we were intrigued due to the detail, we got it down to something around english civil war type clothing. Then after a chance look in the Leeds museum, we found that where the flats were built was an old civil war battle site. The road was also called Boggart Hill, which we later found out that the word Boggart is an old word for a hobgoblin or ghost. So maybe some history of that sort of stuff in the area. 😯

I wish I didn't read that late at night and on my own where the ticking clock sounds super loud now 🙁

It's not true but the mind plays tricks...

Enjoy it whilst is lasts, one day she'll realise that it's human nature that is scary - not ghosts. All the horrors you could ever imagine, reside right here in the material world.

I wish I could be scared of ghosts again!

"Maybe all men got one big soul everybody's a part of, all faces are the same man" - The Thin Red Line/The Grapes of Wrath

Frankenstein - Member
I wish I didn't read that late at night and on my own where the ticking clock sounds super loud now

It's not true but the mind plays tricks...

Tom_W1987 - Member
Enjoy it whilst is lasts, one day she'll realise that it's human nature that is scary - not ghosts. All the horrors you could ever imagine, reside right here in the material world.

I wish I could be scared of ghosts again!

"Maybe all men got one big soul everybody's a part of, all faces are the same man" - The Thin Red Line/The Grapes of Wrath

one day she'll realise that it's human nature that is scary - not ghosts

But the OP said she isn't scared of the ghosts 😉

Apparently at any point in time there are between 3-5 serial killers in the UK 😯

Being more scared of people that are alive than dead is definitely more rational!

But the OP said she isn't scared of the ghosts

She isn't. She (and we) were more scared that there was clouding in her eyes. As her eyes are fine she (and we) are relieved that it is just "ghosts".

Until they started throwing things.

The wife is still a bit "spooked".

Frankenstein - Member
I wish I didn't read that late at night and on my own where the ticking clock sounds super loud now
It's not true but the mind plays tricks...

Get yourself over to [b]r/nosleep[/b] on reddit. Some cracking stories on there.

Have a coffee....

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redthunder - Member
Have a coffee....

Ya, ya ... you have lousy latte art. 😆

I'm hoping for an Elvis coffee 🙂

redthunder - Member

I'm hoping for an Elvis coffee

Even my tea latte or latte tea is better looking than yours! 😆

When I first met Mrs Bees she was sharing a maisonette with a friend. At the time I would have described myself as a non-believer in ghosts. She described some spooky experiences they had in the house and I thought nothing more of it. However ghost activity became more and more common. Here are some of the highlights -
Waking up to find a dark figure sitting upright in the bed next to Mrs Bee.
Waking up to find a dark shape hovvering above.
Coming home to find upstairs double glazed windows wide open in winter.
Woken by a loud crash in kitchen in the middle of the night. The swing bin was lying in the middle of the kitchen.
Friend having his necklace pulled back tight whilst alone making tea in the kitchen.
Same friend was woken in bed by the sound of fingers drumming at the end of the bed. The noise moved up the bed getting louder, until it stopped and he felt a hand go up into his armpit. He was scared sh****less !
It was no joke and they had to move out as none of us wanted to sleep there any more.

thebees - Member
It was no joke and they had to move out as none of us wanted to sleep there any more.

Harry when we first moved in a load of Noah the Ark toy figures were crammed into a small box/lid shut in the middle of my son's bedroom floor. I asked if MrsH or he might have done it? No. I asked as no matter what I couldn't make most of them fit. I tried again/still couldn't. Someone had. My son was 1yr old at the time. Maybe he's a genius? No evidence of this since 😆

We also have the remote putting itself in a certain place. Noises in kitchen during night with a recent 'voice' which I think I posted about on here last month. Maybe they only appear to certain people (blood type?) etc

Used to hear noises in the kitchen all the time. But never when anybody was in there 🙁

Seems to have stopped recently.

House.... 1870'ish

ps and it wasn't the coffee machine 😉

I've explored disused mental asylums alone. At night. I've wandered about in the woods with no torch. I've been in castles and stately homes which are supposed to be haunted. And I've seen things - humanlike shapes and shadows, things moving out of the corner of my eye. And I've heard things - tapping noises, what sounded like footsteps, voices on the edge of hearing.

But, looking again an investigating, none of those things were really ghosts. They were my mind playing tricks. Ive never seen a "real" ghost.

Most freaky was in an old shipyard office with a suspended ceiling. In the middle of the room, I could suddenly hear tapping and scuttling noises above the ceiling. Then from another direction. Then lots more, all around. All I could think of was that scene in Aliens where the aliens are above the ceiling.

Of course it was pigeons 😉

bencooper - Member
But, looking again an investigating, none of those things were really ghosts. They were my mind playing tricks. Ive never seen a "real" ghost.

As far as ghost is concerned you have plenty in Scot-Land ...

You have nothing to fear if they are not real so try this ...

1. Go to Scot-Land most haunted location then challenge the entity. If they are real you will feel them if not then nothing come off it. No fear.

2. Provoke them. Say something that challenge their core or anything most offensive to the Scots do that see if you get reaction.

Then report back ...

Well I saw one in the attic of a training colleague on a winters evening. Someone in black walked on past me through the door (only access was a wooden creaking staircase). I mentioned this to my trainer and he pointed me to a Security guard who had worked on site for 20yrs who had seen a dark figure stop look towards him then walk off two floors down in the same building.

As I'm a nosey bugger I sought him out and the look on the blokes face told me he didn't doubt what he saw. Could be mind tricks, after all there's a morgue slab in the basement where they use to lay up the previous occupiers and maybe we felt 'spooked' when alone in there enough for your mind to play tricks? A figure dressed in black twice though? Why not a white appertition, man dressed in old clothes etc?

hora - Member
A figure dressed in black twice though? Why not a white appertition, man dressed in old clothes etc?

Me mate the boy racer in the far east once saw a lady floating pass him in front of him on the road without legs (he could not see them clearly) ... freaked him out ... never again would he stay longer than 9pm.

I had two friends at university who when we all first met at the freshens fair or whatever , we all got chatting about where we were from etc , and it turned out they had both lived in the same house in Devon at different periods of their lives . I'll never forget it , when they both started talking about the cold room upstairs that no one wanted to sleep in , and they both looked at each other and said at the same time " and did you hear the crying baby and the footsteps" .

Same reason both families moved out .

howsyourdad1 - Member
... " and did you hear the crying baby and the footsteps" Same reason both families moved out .