[Closed] my camper van transit base vehicle - not transporter

Nice one ,I like a good camper thread as much as a shed one.
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Looking forward to seeing the results!

I want one that i can use for wild camping some places in England and esp in Scotland

There is nothing wild camping about that!

"There is nothing wild camping about that!"

what if I had a smaller telly, would that count 😀

That looks like a prime vehicle for conversion. I recon you could squeeze a wet room in to that too.

Looks good. Is it high enough to stand up in?

i can almost stand up in it, my mrs can, so should be fine

not sure how much time id spend standing up in a van anyhow

that should make an awesome camper.... stealthy, too, as it doesn't stand out as a campervan.

i reckon that if i had the space and time to go away for longer than a few weeks-month at a time i would look at something this size. being able to stand up without lifting the roof and having a fixed bed that didn't need clearing in order to cook/get to storeage is a bonus.

main disadvantage with something that size is that it would be as easy to manouvre along some mountain roads. used to shuttle for a guiding comapny using a sprinter and that was abit tight at times, but you soon become aware of your surroundings....

updates!

We so need a like button

I like that!

I recon you could squeeze a wet room in to that too.

^ This

Does that still come in at/under 3500kg?

yes but its a class 5 mot or something

its a 17 seater, but has 9 seats in - and registered as a 9 seater on logbook, once converted i'll get it reclassified by dvla as a motorhome

cos I drive a transit a lot I have no problems with judging the width of them and parking, if I find it tricky I will get a reversing camera

gonna blank out rear windows

Looks a nice van, but need photos abd plans.

Reversing camera, led mirror and 6m lead cost me £18 off flea bay., worth its weight in gold.

If you're going to keep it, I'd suggest getting the timing chain/guides/tensioner changed. Timing failure is the main reason transits get written of at my work, and certain companies now want them done at 100k as part of the regular service schedule.
If you're lucky, it'll only jump enough teeth to cause starting issues and be picked up then, but it's more common for them to jump enough teeth to destroy the valve train in one quick move. At which point the value/repair cost for companies usually means they get scrapped.

Yeah my work one got a bit rattly, tensioned was all tensioned out, so had it all done

my mates got a garage so will get it done, also mot advisory is lip on front discs, they will be done at same time before it goes on any long trips

but first to pay for the conversion

wireless reversing camera and 7" monitor seems a no brainer for about £40

I bought a single seat base for passenger side already

Rear pics please, and can we ask how much? Sweet van btw! 🙂

watching this 🙂

will get some pics tomorrow

and yes 8k inc vat
print out of all work ever done, just tyres, brakes, and bulbs, had new clutch a year ago
and its been limited to 62mph all its life, so not been thrashed. Will get limiter taken off to allow better overtaking on motorways

could have got a white one cheaper, but really didn't want a white/light colour

you could squeeze a wet room in to that too.

ex centre parks

okay guys, this is under way

I had some of the windows blacked out with vinyl last week. This week it has gone off to start the conversion

Seats you can see at the back are Black recaro's out of a ST220, these will be the front seats on swivels

Seats out, and mocked up with some frames and boards to show unit sizes, Ive been down and we altered a few things and discussed a bit

Im going with a double seat in the back, but one that can be removed on tracks

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Please tell me you're getting some insulation in the side panels...

yeah, just mocking stuff up to see if there would be room for how i want it

few more pics

wooden wall in place to check for fit - this will have TV in it

all side panel re- cut from 6mm MDF and carpeted, insulated behind, headlining has been down, insulated and put back up

rubber floor came out, new floor laid, then slate effect tiles laminate

so heres a few pics so far

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did a similar sized one as a rough job, my only tip would be you can go high on the bed and get a lot of low down storage space.
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Nice, I run a high top Maxus as my Camper.

Looks a nice usable space in there. Always interested in threads like this, I've got an old VW T2 that we find a bit small really and I keep thinking of getting a T5 but it's just as small and when I see conversions like this I just think get something beigger, but I'd need it for day to day driving too so not sure if I'd like driving a bigger van around all the time ... somrthing to ponder on, keep up the good work and updates.

trouble with going higher on the bed is

1) you end up sleeping on a shelf
2) backs of seats cover more of the windows up
3) you cant sit on it as a bench

This is why I'm having it built, because everyone wants/uses vans like this differently. The only way to get what YOU really want is to get it custom done. I spent a while looking at others on ebay, but couldn't find what I wanted

some units were fitted today

and the back wall carpeted, which will have a TV in it next week
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Looks very nice indeed, lovely base van (I think the transits are the best looking vans by far and well done for getting it in a nice colour!) and the conversion looks like it's got loads of room.

Just wondering, where are you sitting to watch the TV? In the front swivel chairs? Probably not a good place to put a TV if watching from the bench seats at the back. I also would have thought a 40" TV might be overkill if sitting close too.

Well done, looking forwards to updates.

yeah, the idea is the fronts will swivel

yes, its overkill, but since i got a massive TV at home 32's look tiny in comparison, so wanna try a 40" in there

the back section behind the wall is big enough to house 2 bikes - and will even have charging points for my E bike

Never understood the idea of driving out into some remote and scenic landscape to sit and watch TV....

Take a decent book or a lady with you.

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Looks great! How are you making the units, are you doing these yourself or having them made to custom sizes, veneered MDF or ply?

they are veneers lightweight ply - cost £600 for x4 8x4 foot sheets !

all custom cut for the van and what I asked for

Have you got plans for the overcab space, or are you, errr, just going to leave it boarded over and waste it?!

Coats, bedding, clothes...one of the most useful storage areas!

on the pic the overhead unit is installed, but needs its door cutting out - were going to use it to put duvet/pillow in

a few more pics, luton section has been fitted, and fibreglassed to smooth all contours, then re-carpeted to match rest of van. Over head lockers have been trimmed awaiting doors

LED downlighters with hidden wires fitted
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Liking the cab over head unit. Fancy doing something like that in my bus. How did you fix it to the roof at the front / sides

You ain't kidding about that ply being pricy I looked at getting a new bit to replace a bit that got heavily watermarked/stained in my van.....It will be sanded down and refinished in situ..

dunno, my mate is doing it , he has fixed to batons and additional supports, the over head lockers are dead solid

units are all in, doors on with push button knobs and stuff
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Tomorrow TV and soundbar is being fitted, I've ordered a couple of thule bike clamps to hold bike steady in the rear compartment of the van

tracks in the floor are for quick release double seat for when carrying passengers - so it will seat 4 in proper seat belted seats, and sleep 2

Blimey - that's a lot of work you've done there!
How much weight have you added putting all those units in?

Im not doing it myself, my woodworking isn't that good,

weight is not an issue, its a dual wheel 17 seater minibus, so must be good to carry 1,5 ton or so

Four 8x4 sheets of lighweight laminated ply is about 70kg, so not that much 🙂 Certainly considerably lighter than the seats that came out in the first place...

I'd get it weighed...

Your van will be considerably heavier than a panel van...its got twin wheels, RWD, glazing all round, XLWB and also I think most minibuses like this have a raised floor with a latticework of steel for all the seats. Alot of the Transits this size are 4600kg payload as if you take adults, you need the payload.

The payload on my Iveco drops by 200kg or so if you get the model with twin wheels.

Looking good though 🙂 My conversion is 50% so need to get some pics sorted

Should have a plate on it with the MGW. You'll definitely want to check, depending on your license you might not actually be allowed to drive it...

[edit: Brief Google says MGW for one of those is ~4,100kg. Which is over 3,500kg. If you've got a post-1997 driving license you may have an issue. You could downplate it but then you'd have payload problems.]

I can drive it my licence, so no probs

and yes, the seats we removed weighed quite a lot

and seventeen people must be approx. 1200-1300?

Looks like a lovely conversion. Can I ask which Thule clamps you're going to use to hold the bikes please, as I'm after something for my van.

It's an odd quirk of big minibuses that they often aren't actually capable of carrying the weight of all the passengers 🙂 The payload for a twin-axle Transit minibus is apparently about 1,400kg, which is 82kg per passenger (including luggage). Wouldn't be great for a rugby team 🙂

Obviously you've taken a load of seats out, probably saving 15kg or more per seat.

I still need to weigh mine...

[edit: Insurance/breakdown cover are likely to be slightly more awkward with a camper over 3.5t, but still doable - just less choice/more expensive]

We tried all ways of securing four bikes in the garage of our camper. Clamp, straps and even part of a tow bar bike rack. Saw quite a few people at Enduro events who were using bike shrouds.
Tried in vain for six months to find some that covered the full bike except the saddle and handlebars.
Dropped on the Specialized demo van in Grizedale and they were using exactly what we needed. With a bit of help from the guys at Bikescene and Specialized UK we ended up with the phone number of the company that made them called RB Sails.
Don't have to worry about bikes rubbing or moving about any more and only takes a couple of minutes to load or unload the bikes

Tracey, any pics?

Tracey, any pics?

Of the covers...I'm also interested in seeing the solution.

Before and after on our Alps trip, sorry for poor quality. Abigale also uses them when she has the bikes in the back of the Tourneo Connect

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Spoilsport! 😉

Those covers look great...I guess they are not available to buy 'off the shelf'? Our bikes will be stored under the fixed bed in our camper, upright with wheels off, and they look like they'd work with the wheel off.

Today the TV and sound bar were fitted, foam for cushions is in place, off to upholsterer tomorrow

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i ordered 2 of these, different lengths

https://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/thule-holder-arm-for-tow-bar-carrier-for-europower-915/aid:713124?channable=e8467.NzEzMTI0&gclid=CIGJk4GLttICFYgy0wodbDUGDQ

We just rang the guy, had a chat, he sent me the spec he had used for Specialized UK. Confirmed everything by email, needed four and had them delivered in the week. They are very well made.

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If you ring him he should remember making them for us

Go on then

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We have tried the Thule ones like these that clamp the top tubes, have three of them but they didn't stop the bikes rubbing against each other.

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Also have a Thule tidy hanging from the garage door for shoes, gloves, goggles and anything else that will fit in

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How much were those Tracey? He isn't going to be open at this time so I can't call and ask, but they look very good.

Sorry for thread hijack, the conversion is also looking very good!

surely its the length of the clamps and relative distance of the bike to stop them rubbing, if they were rubbing then they were too close despite the clamps?

The clamps are designed to keep the bikes apart at the top on a bike rack, which they do. What we don't have in the camper is the wheel holders that keep the bottom of the bikes steady as they would when on the bike rack. So with all the movement of the van whilst travelling allows them to come together at the bottom so the forks and rear ends eventually rub. Even tried fastening the wheels to the lashing mounts but that didn't work. Even bought a four bike rack to use the base to keep the bottom of the bikes apart but it took up too much room
Also tried the interlocking carpet tiles from Halfords, four locked together per bike, but they kept coming apart during the journey.

my mate sent some more pics, LED's are wired up and switched on - seats are covered

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Wow that looks great....

Amazing conversion. Is it impolite to ask what the original budget was, and whether you have stayed within it?

I really must try and avoid threads about vans. And puppies. Bikes I'm ok with.

ha - ill let you know when I get the final bill next week !

its better fitted out than my house, think I might go live in it on the driveway

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Can't have too many camper van threads! Lovely job.