[Closed] Moving a dropped kerb.. do i need council permission.

Yes you would need the council to do it as it's their kerb not yours

You're not authorised to carry out works on the highway.

No expert here so I might be talking hot air but I suspect the answer is Yes. No harm in trying apart from rejection.

If I were you I would ask before you get into all sort of bureaucratic mess. The reasons ...

1. There is a yellow line/block on the parking kerb which is there for a reason drawn by the city council.
2. There is a water drainage cover there so perhaps that is the reason why the yellow line/block is there and previous owner could not change that.
3. Perhaps the yellow line/block kerb is there so making it easy to access the drainage if required.
4. Health and safety ... you might destroy the drainage cover by constantly driving over it thus damaging the road etc ...
[b]5. It is Not your property as the road belongs to the council whoever ... [/b]

p/s: As a tightly controlled bureaucratic nation you should know that you need permission for most things ... duplicate and triplicate that please.

Yes. But when we put our drive in, the application was only 35 quid for a guy to come out and say 'ok'.

I thought this might be the case.

I'd move two to make it more symmetrical

Yes you will need council permission, if they do agree to dropping it you will have to pay whatever there quote comes back at, this could be very expensive.

They may decide they do not want to lower that kerb stone due to the position of the drain as with the lie of the land it may lead to water running down the path rather than in the gutter.

Be easier to move the drive if you own that little bit of grass on the left

Or just always approach from the good side?.

Dropped kerb cost me 180 for the application and 800 for a council approved ground works co to do it. And that wasn't anywhere near the most expensive one. They also painted a white t bar line for that too.

move the drive over 3 foot, as above, and get the fence painted and drive re done with straight edgings

That bit of grass is mine, it's where there were loads of trees I asked on here how to get rid of as seen in this pic....

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We will get the drive redone in a few years and will possibly move it over.

'Breaking out' of the public highway is punishable by death. However you'd probably get away with it.

Council approved/affiliated/whatever contractor needs to do it.

Err some of the above is totally incorrect. You don't have to go with what the council quote at all. In fact the council have far better things to do with fannying around with kerbs.
Application is necessary but then any approved contractor with a street works ticket can do it.
Have a word with a few local ground works companies. Even local block pavers/tarmacers may have the relevant tickets.

I know some one that can do it I just wasn't sure if I could "alter" it a bit under the previous application

Will that need a Section 50 Licence? They're £400 round our way.

I'll be dead honest id just do it...

You need to make an application to the Council Highways department. Whoever does the work will need to be on the Council's list of approved highway Contractors.

this may vary from council to council.

What exactly does the previous application say? Does it have any latitude for interpretation?

Dantsw I have no idea to be honest.

Tsw as in raf supplier ???

its a no brainer.. next time anyone from the caravan club is in town drop them a ton and the kerb will mysteriusly move overnight as will any likely hood of you been involved..no one will ever know its moved never mind that a mr big at no.11 was to blame.. ps.. is that your mrs in the bedroom window?

Err some of the above is totally incorrect. You don't have to go with what the council quote at all. In fact the council have far better things to do with fannying around with kerbs.
Application is necessary but then any approved contractor with a street works ticket can do it.
Have a word with a few local ground works companies. Even local block pavers/tarmacers may have the relevant tickets.

Pure dung.

Council approved contractor required as they are liable for the work for the first two years, so need public liability insurance.

Council approved yeah, but that could be anyone, not just the council.

Isn't that what the last sentence quoted said?

Just FYI - I had this conversation recently - the reason you need to make an application is that the council need to ensure that the pavement( built for walking on) will support a vehicle's weight - any services running under the pavement may need to be supported/reinforced to avoid damage.

If you drop the kerb, and then damage is done to the services, you will be liable for the restoration of those services - not worth it imho.

That Drain might run along the line of the road and not be an issue, but I wouldn't risk not applying.

Pure dung.

Council approved contractor required as they are liable for the work for the first two years, so need public liability insurance.

Or just always approach from the good side?.

Renton, no, not TSW, sw13 was my old postcode. EX RAF, but a herc pilot, not a mover.

I know some one that can do it

As above said application needed and council approved Streetworks accredited contractor needed, however to lower the kerb may well require the drain cover to be reset, which could turn a simple job into not such a simple job. it's probably not worth doing for what it will cost you
I suspect this is why the previous owners didn't take the drop kerb further along

Err did I not say they need to be council approved?
I do have a rough idea of what's required as it's probably something I've been doing for a living for 20 odd years. Crack on and advise folk to use the council and see how long it takes to get done and how much it costs

I never said get the council to do it, I'd suggest you read my post.

I'd not be posting pictures of my house, Inc the number on the net, especially given all your threads about "my bike" etc. This is a public forum & who knows who's reading it.this comes from someone who had 3 bikes nicked only a week after advertising them for sale, coincidence? Maybe

That yellow kerbstone intrigues me. Is it already on a list for repair/alteration?
1) Contact the LA and see if you can piggyback any works
2) Always turn in left, it'll be cheaper

Sod the kerbstone I'd put the trees back in 😀

You have the advice needed. I suspect it is how it is to prevent constant traffic over that drain cover/frame loosening it and incurring additional repetitive remedial works.

Go ahead an apply and see what happens, ask for a list of approved contractors.

Cheers for the info people.

Oh and apologies dantsw !!!

I had a dropped kerb installed yesterday. We needed a vehicle access permission from the county council (£112) which means we can have a standard 2.75m opening (plus the 2 risers). This permission lasts for 3 years. We then had to get a "permit to dig" which was £220 and the contractor (£750 to do the job) wouldn't do it without both of those in place. Because we live on a C road (no, me neither) I also had to get planning permission.

OP - I'd leave well alone.

BigJohn - Member
OP - I'd leave well alone.

^^^ This. 😛

I suspect that the kerbstone is painted yellow for no other reason than people pranging it on the way in. Either that or the stopcock set in the pavement (but I doubt that, usually fire hydrants would be marked like that).

The kerb is painted yellow as a mitigating measure to comply with guidance that footpaths/walkways should not guide peds to walk straight onto a drain cover. I had to have a footpath moved to comply with this requirement.

This thread is of interest to me as I recently enquired with my LA about widening a drop kerb in prep for widening the drive itself.
The drive leads straight onto the road without traversing a footpath.
It's driveway, 300mm of kerb, road.

I get the feeling it's going to be a long haul. The reply to my email, from the muppet at the LA didn't even get my name correct it was also clear that the person in question had not read my original note!

I get that perhaps there are some proper idiots working at the council/LA but what is disappointing is the seemingly default response from my LA for everything as being, "NO!" Now, what was the question?

The kerb is painted yellow as a mitigating measure to comply with guidance that footpaths/walkways should not guide peds to walk straight onto a drain cover. I had to have a footpath moved to comply with this requirement.

The kerb is painted yellow as a mitigating measure to comply with guidance that footpaths/walkways should not guide peds to walk straight onto a drain cover. I had to have a footpath moved to comply with this requirement.

I'll bite.

How does that work if the ped is walking off that side of the pavement. Or is blind.