Ermmm. Im not smart enough to explain. You can teach someone social skills but is that the same?
I don't know, but I'm not sure you can equate developing emotional intelligence to improving at IQ tests through practice. It's interesting really, neuroplasticity means the brain can learn to do all sorts of weird stuff and often what we think we know, we don't. Or at least not with the degree of certainty we believe.
I suspect this thread says as much about what people perceive as being the most important aspect of 'intelligence' as it does about the actual 'intelligence' of the people being cited. I can't even begin to try ranking people I've met on that basis, lost of them impressively good at certain things, some impressively good at lots of them. Some just incredibly bright in a slightly odd way, which I think is probably what impresses me most.
Im degree level amart just about. Im not phd in hard science smart. Hiw would you teach me to be phd level smart
I'd argue that 'PhD level smart' is actually more about being 'academic' than 'intelligent' per se. It's the ability to sift through masses of information and take out the significant bits and trends to construct an argument or theory. I think you can probably develop that skill with practice. I'm not sure you can develop the ability to enjoy the process, but that's arguably a different thing.
On a wider level, one of the issues we have as a society is the way we value a very narrow definition of intelligence measured by our education system, which is actually about organising facts into arguments in a competitive environment. No valuation of emotional intelligence / common sense etc. Back to EQ then...
How would you teach me to be a genius?
It depends on whether you accept that some-one who has either innate ability or learned ability is a genius I suppose. Mozart probably had his musical ability from birth, he still had to learn the basis/advanced theories of music in order to make the most of that ability.
Mrs FD is fairly clever.
PHD, FRCS, Medical Degree, Degree, Masters (all at highest level of award), Top end of MENSA, can't decide whether she wants to get a professorship.
It is commented at her work that she comes across as 'normal' compared to a lot of her colleagues.
However I know for a fact that at times she lacks the most common of common sense, and sees the world in strange ways.
Having been in her circle of colleagues - some of them of very intelligent. Whether they are 'wise' is a different matter. In all walks of life you come across some very wise people who you can learn more from than any amount of intelligence.
Interesting that most of the above posts associate intelligence with formal qualifications and distinguished universities. Intelligence can be so much more
Intelligence is so much more. The school structure didn't suit me so I was never going to do well. IT was all about revision (boring) with a test at the end. I just took the tests based on what I remembered over the few years with no revision at all. Did okay but clearly could have done way better if I revised.
Left school feeling a bit of a failure until starting work and clearly having more intelligence (understanding stuff quickly, coming up with workable solutions to problems quickly, remembering a lot of stuff without writing it down etc,.) than most that I work with who did do degrees and further education.
A good point, I’ve met some technical genuises in my time, but have the social and life skills of gherkin.
That will be because they are most probably high functioning autistic people.
Kerley - completely. Once you get in to the work place you can quickly see those who the education system failed. Unfortunately though many industries continue to rely very heavily on a qualification rather than ability to do the job (I guess you have to start some where)
Yes, I was very lucky. Mediocre A level results and autistic so appalling at interviews but the job was a starter job in IT and the interview was heavily biased toward results of an IQ type test which I got 98% in!
I've met the "dotty professor type" A consultant dermatologist I worked with briefly was really well respected in his field (undersells it really, he was in many ways the "Go-To") - written something like 200 papers, was forever getting post doc mega bright students from very well known medical teaching schools to "sit at his feet" while he went about his work.
Couldn't read/use an excel spreadsheet, or on one occasion; work a self check-out at Tesco.
I work with Drs, scientists, academics and engineers on a variety of topics, and have met some seriously clever people, but I once had a conversation with Nick Clegg lasting around 15mins. Possibly one of the most articulate, intelligent and insightful people I've ever had a brief chat with. I know this will be controversial for many.
A young patent attourney (uk) I met with a few years ago - I sometimes have some odd ideas, and am used to having to lead people through them and explain very carefully. Not this guy - although he had no previous knowledge of the field we were discussing, he grasped every nuance of what I was trying to explain from pretty much the first sentence and asked incisive, pertinent questions from he off. Our conversation moved off onto other things and life in general and he was also very personable and pleasant to talk to.
I was impressed at the time, and I'm still impressed now.
I remember turning to my boss after the meeting and saying "Isn't it nice when you can deal with people without having to explain everything in words of one syllable"... He gave me a funny look.
Despite working at a fairly senior level - I have encountered many, many people more intelligent than me.
Emotional intelligence had been getting more emphasis in organisations - and it is definitely needed, but in deeds not policies which in reality is often only for appearance.
The best thing I have ever done professionally is to care for my colleagues and treat them with dignity.
I did so many IQ tests in my teens my score went up 15
No wonder you appear obsessed with intelligence! Why did you have so many IQ tests as a teen, why was it so important to keep checking your IQ?
Most people don't have a proper professionally arranged IQ test in their whole lives.
In my totally nonexpert way I consider the brain to possess similar qualities to muscle. Genetics plays a part with regards to how strong you are and how big your muscles are, but you can make yourself stronger by building more muscle, or weaker by neglecting your muscles.
You can learn to improve your memory or the ability to do mental arithmetic by simply practicing a lot.
I was always good at science / maths but I can't give good advice on interpersonal problems, I couldn't walk into a room of people and get them to invest in my startup, I'm not the quick-wittiest person in conversation etc etc. When I was a teenager, I didn't think those skills mattered a jot. The older I get, the more envious of people that have the 'all round' skillset, even if they aren't quite so good at the countdown numbers 😀
My child, he knows everything
Apparently
Teenager? Yeah - sounds familiar!
Couldn’t read/use an excel spreadsheet, or on one occasion; work a self check-out at Tesco.
Arf. My uncle taught Physics at (roughly) A level standard in Ireland. A an intelligent, thoughtful man. Was left alone with the kids for an afternoon and blew the fuse box, destroyed the sandwich toaster, and set a small fire in the kitchen by somehow getting the power lead inside a cheese toastie
However I know for a fact that at times she lacks the most common of common sense, and sees the world in strange ways.
I think there is often this assumption that being highly intelligent, in the top tiny percent, is always a great gift. I am sure that it brings with it quite a few problems, including feelings of isolation and sometimes unusual behaviour which doesn't sit comfortably with the norm.
One of the most intelligent person, in the normal definition of the term, I have ever known was a friend of mine who was about 15 years older. He came from the Rhondda Valley, his father was a coal miner but instead of going down the pits, as expected, he ended up with a PhD in biochemistry. He was something of a political mentor to me.
Yet despite, or possibly because of, his undoubtedly high level of intelligence he was a mess. He was constantly having what he called "mini breakdowns", he couldn't cope with simple emotional stuff. He ended up commiting suicide.
Why did you have so many IQ tests as a teen, why was it so important to keep checking your IQ?
I did quite a few as well. For some reason we took them in English lessons between 14 - 16 years old.
And yes you do get better after doing a few - technique on completion, awareness of similar types of questions and so on. I got to 160 by the time I was 16.
Different to all the phds listed above but an old next door neighbour of mine had a general knowledge that would crush pub quizzes, pubquiz machines etc.
I once had a conversation with Nick Clegg lasting around 15mins. Possibly one of the most articulate, intelligent and insightful people I’ve ever had a brief chat with.
I can well believe that, there was only one reason why cleggmania grabbed the nation - Nick Clegg.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cleggmania-spreads-across-britain-1947687.html
Clegg's decision to prop up a Tory Prime Minister and his determination to implement severe austerity might have cost the LibDems very dearly, 12 years on their level of support is still only half of what it was, but he has carved out a highly successful career for himself on the back of being former deputy Prime Minister.
The geezer is clearly not daft, far from it.
My wife apparently... there is nothing she doesn't know.
I did quite a few as well. For some reason we took them in English lessons between 14 – 16 years old.
How strange. I have only ever had one IQ test, it was when I was 13. I think the woman who I did it with, it was a one-to-one, was a professional psychologist.
I am fairly sure that she had a stop watch which is used with every question although I can't be completely certain.
I can't see how that scenario would work in a classroom environment. Or even the point of repeated IQ tests. There is usually a specific reason for taking a child's IQ.
My old maths teacher used to say "the mind is like a garden - it needs to be tended to keep it under control".
I think he was correct - the people who come across as inteligent are often the ones who not only started out with a decent brain, but have trained it and exercised it in ways that cause it to function effectively.
Conversely it's possible to start out with a decent brain and end up a dullard due to lack of stimulation.
Not sure, I suspect it was someone who appeared quite modest and unassuming but had the universe, this planet and its occupants sussed.
In my jobs I've met highly qualified people in prestigious roles who were peddling a pack of lies in the corporate interest - surely assuming people are stupid enought to fall for your bullshit is not very intelligent. I've met people brilliant in a particular field but so flawed in others it would be hard to call them intelligent. The genius who sneaks out for a crafty fag or something stronger, stupid. The high IQ, high flyer who has a huge carbon footprint or contributes to making this beautiful planet uglier - plain thick. Intelligence that's fatally flawed.
I don't have much faith in IQ tests, I've done a few, a couple under the right conditions, it struck me they were testing only a tiny part of my intelligence and if I scored well it was because I was good at that type of test not because I'm particularly intelligent, I'm just good at spotting patterns and anomalies.
I'll have go though, Bill, the Peak District park warden who occupied the cottage at North Lees in the 80s and 90s. Well read, worldly wise, practical and always working to make everthing and everybody around him better.
Sheldon Glashow. Yes THAT Sheldon was named after him.
And it was as part of my PhD to give you an idea of my past.
The clever rich kids had BBC micros
Thanks! I saved for four years doing a paper round and gardening for old ladies to pay for mine! It was a huge struggle for a single parent family.
FWIW I think that Music shouldn't be classed as one of those intelligence types as I think it's a compound of the other skills; pattern recognition from maths, memory skills, some kinesthesic ability depending on the instrument you play, the creative when improvising/composing and also interpersonal emotional skills to play in an ensemble
I did so many IQ tests in my teens my score went up 15 pts. IQ tests measure how good you are at doing IQ tests not intelligence
I did the same test (exactly the same test) at two different employers in the same field about 20 years ago, the intention of the test is that you shouldn't be able to finish, and how far you get, plus your score in various areas gives a handle on skill types etc etc.
The second test i finished with 10 minutes to spare, and got a "perfect" score. They made an offer before i'd left the building.
Shame they were a terrible employer (and still pay absolute bottom dollar across the board).
You can have all of those and still be tone deaf, Edhornby. Sing something in key and then try to sing it in harmony on the fifth, you've just proven you have lousy musical intelligence.
Smartest person i know from school regularly stands up in front of governments and tells them they're idiots (politely).
Senior specialist in environmental sciences for one of the major players in the field.
Started a BSc, and converted to the MSc at the end of the second year (4 year degree). Started his PhD before his peers had finished their BSc. Then some jiggery pokery with funding and transferred his PhD to one of the Oxford colleges. Then did a second successful PhD in a related field.
Still, he can't tie his shoelaces and despite having a driving licence, refuses to get behind the wheel as he feels he is a danger to others.
Ironically, the smartest person my brother knows is one of his direct reports...
My Uncle was probably the cleverest person I know/knew. Grew up in a rough area of Leeds in the 40s/50s, was identified at school as being particularly clever and was able to go to Cambridge at a time when people from that background were few and far between. Went on to win the Davisson–Germer Prize for Physics and ended up being director of a particle accellerator.
As well as being "educationally brilliant" he was also worldly wise but also very likable, friendly and down to earth.
Cancer took him far too young 🙁
I can’t see how that scenario would work in a classroom environment.
Works perfectly. Each student at their individual desk - given IQ test paper and told to start when timer starts and end when timer ends, not surprisingly just the same as any other test. No better place to do them really...
My sister-in-law who was a very senior team leader on the James Webb telescope project (she was in charge of the sunshield part of the project) with an understanding of complex mathematical calculations that I couldn't even scratch the surface of understanding. But put her in a room with anyone and you would never know - just down to earth, fun, playful, engaging and a mean GTA player too.
Saying that though, in an escape room we had to solve a maths question and my wife solved it before she did (I guess it was so glaringly obvious that she looked far beyond it).
but if Clegg was so smart, why did he not see that the Tories were going to use every dirty trick in the book so dump them out of the powersharing ?? Even the average voter knew they would do that and they did. I'm not convinced tbh - there are a lot of people who can provide a fast answer that sounds plausible but that doesn't equal smart to me. Considering he's now a PR apologist for Facebook - I suspect that his wife is the smart one
Nick Clegg lasting around 15mins. Possibly one of the most articulate, intelligent and insightful people I’ve ever had a brief chat with. I know this will be controversial for many.
I'm not disputing that he's clever but that description would fit most of the politicians that I've ever met. An ability to meet complete strangers, make small talk and pretend to know what the other person is going on about must be be fairly essential, as well as some sort of charisma so that they can get to a high level in politics.
Works perfectly. Each student at their individual desk – given IQ test paper
I seem to remember that when I did mine each question/problem and the time it was took was timed with a stopwatch, or at least some were. Also the psychologist herself asked me questions, it wasn't like an exam paper, it didn't test my ability to read.
And I still don't understand why a school would want to regular test all pupils IQ. I thought the point of IQ tests was to see, although not necessarily very accurately, whether there was a specific problem?
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...in the Fire Service we had at a certain period lots of miners (retained) and ex miners. They used what they called “pit logic”, solutions to the problems we faced at times came from that source.
This is fascinating. I'd like to hear more about this.
I’m not disputing that he’s clever but that description would fit most of the politicians that I’ve ever met. An ability to meet complete strangers, make small talk and pretend to know what the other person is going on about must be be fairly essential, as well as some sort of charisma so that they can get to a high level in politics.
I would kind of agree with this.
I too met him (although briefly) when I worked in the NHS in Sheffield, he is very eloquent and had a demeanour of knowing what he was on about.
I think that is a learned skill. When I used to work for a FTSE 25 company the Director of Finance came to see us. Going back 20 yrs ago he earned something like £2m per year basic salary. He had been well prepped, knew what to say and how to act. Probably didnt do much at all directly to do with Finance, but was used to being in the political world (as you have to be in that kind of company at that level)
I’m not disputing that he’s clever but that description would fit most of the politicians that I’ve ever met. An ability to meet complete
That suggests that most politicians are clever - which is somewhat at odds with the general stw consensus!
but if Clegg was so smart, why did he not see that the Tories were going to use every dirty trick in the book.....
I think it was a combination of many things and not necessarily a sign of not being very smart. To be fair his strategy was fully supported by other LibDem politicians such as Vince Cable and Danny Alexander, neither are considered to be not very smart.
At the risk of going off on a tangent IMO the reasons include, the fact that the Nick Clegg shares the same economic philosophy as the Tories**, making the case for austerity to deal with the deficit was a way of attacking and discrediting Labour - their main anti-Tory rival, the fact that it had been long assumed that one of the greatest handicaps the LibDems had was that they were not seen as a serious party of government, and the lure of a ministerial car, enhanced salary, and ego-boosting status.
** Adherence to a specific economic philosophy is not a sign of intelligence, otherwise all clever people would agree on the same economic policies.
I seem to remember that when I did mine each question/problem and the time it was took was timed with a stopwatch, or at least some were. Also the psychologist herself asked me questions, it wasn’t like an exam paper, it didn’t test my ability to read.
A standard IQ test has an overall time (which is tight for most) which is where technique comes into it on not wasting time on stuff you don't know the answer to immediately.
And I still don’t understand why a school would want to regular test all pupils IQ. I thought the point of IQ tests was to see, although not necessarily very accurately, whether there was a specific problem?
Not at all. I think your test was very specific and maybe to see if you had any problems given a psychologist was involved. Did they let you out afterwards 🙂
Not at all
Fairy nuff. I didn't realise that school did IQ tests. I'm assuming that the results weren't made public?
I’m not disputing that he’s clever but that description would fit most of the politicians that I’ve ever met. An ability to meet complete
That suggests that most politicians are clever – which is somewhat at odds with the general stw consensus!
No, only the handful I've met. None of them have been Tories. 😀
No, only the handful I’ve met. None of them have been Tories
That makes it worse then! Bearing in mind that non-Tory politicians tend to be less successful at their stated aims.
In my jobs I’ve met highly qualified people in prestigious roles who were peddling a pack of lies in the corporate interest – surely assuming people are stupid enought to fall for your bullshit is not very intelligent.
I met many of them or worked alongside them, worked for them before. They are intelligent no doubt about that but just as they gifted/born with such intelligent they have forgotten who they are and consider themselves above all else. Then one day I see them fall, again and again, deeper and deeper to the point of no return. Once they start to fall they fall no matter how they tried, they fall. Then into insignificant. Like the ash, when the wind blows it disperse. Never to be heard again. (happened to most of my big bosses)
Btw kerley you claim:
I got to 160 by the time I was 16.
You do realise that is exactly the same IQ it is claimed Albert Einstein had, don't you?
Now I don't doubt that you are an extraordinarily smart guy and highly intelligent, but it does make me suspect that the multiple IQ tests which you had at school might have been a tad flawed.
Re: iq tests...
A number of years ago I had a wee experiment to myself. I found two, supposedly mensa approved iq test on different websites. The first one, I gave it my best shot. The second, I didn't read the questions or answers just selected random boxes.
Test 1= iq of 131
Test 2= iq of 105
I'm not smart enough to draw a conclusion from those results 🤣
You do realise that is exactly the same IQ it is claimed Albert Einstein had, don’t you?
Yep, it was noted at the time! It tends to decline with age and at 55 my IQ is now down at just over 140.
Now I don’t doubt that you are an extraordinarily smart guy and highly intelligent, but it does make me suspect that the multiple IQ tests which you had at school might have been a tad flawed.
Nope, they were fine. I am just very suited to doing them - I think very quickly so always complete every question with time to go back to the ones that take a bit longer to work out and my brain seems to be good at dealing with the type of questions in the test.
I think I just swooned
I was privileged to call him a friend for many years, and to have collaborated with him on a few projects. He the obituary doesn't mention a quarter of the things in which he was highly accomplished, including the fact that he was a classical pianist accredited to professional accompanist level from the Italian conservatory, and a master boat-builder and sailor.
He was a man who understood life, including its magic, and manifested it with integrity at all times. There was nothing in which he couldn't find some feature of interest, and was as adept at talking about mathematics as classics as medicine as philology as history, at the highest academic level. I should add that he was able to do so in Italian, English, and German (at least), as well as classical Greek and Latin. Yet there was absolutely no snobbery in him.
Unfortunately, he lost patience with me when I took on a management role, and decided that we could no longer be friends. Yet my admiration for him as a person, and his intellect, remains undiminished.
Tragically, he lost his life to a previously undetected brain tumour, and I was never able to reconcile with him. I remember him constantly.
and at 55 my IQ is now down at just over 140.
You are still taking IQ tests? Why?
Bearing in mind that non-Tory politicians tend to be less successful at their stated aims.
With the stated aims of most Tory politicians being lying and screwing over anyone earning under £150k a year?
You are still taking IQ tests? Why?
Same reason people keep voting for Tories?
This is interesting - countries by IQ ranking
Top 10 Countries with the Highest Intelligence Capital Index - 2017:
United States - 74.88 (A+)
United Kingdom - 64.19 (A)
Germany - 64.18 (A)
Australia - 63.96 (A)
Singapore - 63.60 (A)
Sweden - 61.58 (A)
Switzerland - 61.57 (A)
Canada - 61.15 (A)
Finland - 60.45 (A)
Denmark - 60.25 (A)
Here are the 10 countries with the highest IQ:
Japan - 106.48
Taiwan - 106.47
Singapore - 105.89
Hong Kong - 105.37
China - 104.1
South Korea - 102.35
Belarus - 101.6
Finland - 101.2
Liechtenstein - 101.07
Germany - 100.74
With the stated aims of most Tory politicians being lying and screwing over anyone earning under £150k a year?
Those are definitely not the stated aims of Tory politicians.
I think they are a bit cleverer than you might give them credit for.
Top 10 Countries with the Highest Intelligence Capital Index – 2017:
United States – 74.88 (A+)
Mmm 🤔
In 2017 the United States had just elected Donald Trump as US president. Much to the bewildered amusement of the rest of the world.
Great entertainment value, but not necessarily so if you were American.
Unfortunately, he lost patience with me when I took on a management role, and decided that we could no longer be friends.
Sounds like you have become his boss or went above him which he did not like? Not good enough to manage him?
Tragically, he lost his life to a previously undetected brain tumour, and I was never able to reconcile with him. I remember him constantly.
Sorry to hear that.
Mmm 🤔
In 2017 the United States had just elected Donald Trump as US president. Much to the bewildered amusement of the rest of the world.
Great entertainment value, but not necessarily so if you were American.
They don't get to be superpower for low intelligence put it another way. LOL
Sir Gerrard Robinson.
Business leader, mp, tycoon.
Very quick thinker, grasped concepts quickly and you could tell, wjen talking to him he was actually listening to what you had to say.
Rather than those annoying ****s who pretend to but are trying to shoe in a tale about something vaguely related, in which they did something much better than you and therefore you must be crap and they're brilliant.
My nephew. Astro physicist Very clever for a ypung man. Way ahead of every one through school, excelled at Uni. I didn't know how clever till the Dean read out an obituary stating his death will be a loss to the world wide space science community. Dead at 21 of a previously undiagnosed heart issue.
You are still taking IQ tests? Why?
Just for the hell of it. I don't take one everyday, just every few years. Not sure why you are so interested in this TBH. Maybe some hang ups about IQ tests from those dark days of yours with the child psychologist? 🙂
Not sure why you are so interested in this TBH
It was you brought up the subject of your remarkably high IQ. I'm not particularly interested, although I am vaguely interested in why you took so many at school, it sounds usual, and why you are still taking IQ tests now.
Maybe some hang ups about IQ tests from those dark days of yours with the child psychologist? 🙂
Not really. I am perfectly relaxed about having taken an IQ test when I was 13. Obviously the result didn't match the Albert Einstein level of intelligence that yours did but I can live with that. I am quite happy being average.
Edit: Btw I didn't mention anything about seeing a child psychologist. I said that a psychologist did the IQ test on me. I have no idea whether she was a child psychologist or not, I never saw her again.
I want to take an iQ test to see how low I score.
Anyone knows a good free website that allows such test? My head hurts just thinking about it.
None of them have been Tories
I've met a few Tories in my time, Peter Bone: Stupid as you'd expect him to be, but a very "Hail fellow, well met" sort, I've not met Farage, but they strike me as similar, everything is simple (even if it's not) everything can be either sold, or done more cheaply. But I expect he's fun down the pub. He'd certainly buy you a pint to hear your story. George Freeman as a health minister, very media aware, not thick, but stodgy? was given an awful brief to computerise the NHS. Hadn't a clue about where to start and was massively under-experienced, probably scarred for life. Dan Poulter. was a Tory was a doctor (still is I think) was interested, smart, on top of his brief, (NHS property) seemed he was really frustrated a lot of the time.
Can't say if any of them were high IQ or not.
I think there was some sort of research in glasgow schools at the time hence the multiple testing of two different aspects IQ and VRQ as the had just rejigged the school system. I then got interested to see if i could learn to be better at doing the tests so did multiple.
I started scoring 120odd on IQ and 140+ on VRQ
And IIRC ended up with 140ish on both.
Im clearly not as smart as that would suggest so imo IQ and VRQ are not valid measures of intelligence
My high scoring was IMO more down to my obsessive and detail minded approach rather than any true measure of itelligence
We did IQ tests at School but the results weren't disclosed, I guess the idea was to work out what raw material was available. However, one master did disclose the top three people to a prefect as he was convinced that only one of them could have been the particularly cunning thief that he was struggling to catch - he may have been onto something because one of them ended up in prison.
The school tests were not made public. I read the results upside down off the deputy heads desk when he had my file open when I was once again in serious trouble and in his office for a bollocking. I think i also stole some. Long time ago now
One of the ways i know i am not that smart i could never grasp any maths beyond o levels. If i cannot see it physically and ir count it i can't understand. I cannot do theoretical in that way at all
I’ve absolutely no clue how to answer this. Mrs F’s Grandfather would probably have been classed as a genius. Couldn’t make a cup of tea and was a staggering ****wit in some regards. I used to feel sorry for him as you could see how frustrated he’d get chatting to anyone. You just had to nod and pretend you were following. Different level in academic terms. On a very linear old fashioned definition of intelligence it would probably be him.
My high scoring was IMO more down to my obsessive and detail minded approach rather than any true measure of itelligence
I took the opposite approach. As your typical smart-arsed and rather difficult 13 year old teenager who pretends he doesn't know what an adults means, I remember pretending that I didn't know the obvious answer to a question because it was merely "implied" and not stated.
The psychologist carrying out the test was clearly unconvinced that I was that stupid and didn't know the answer, I think she asked it twice before accepting that I wasn't going to give her the correct answer.
although I am vaguely interested in why you took so many at school, it sounds usual, and why you are still taking IQ tests now.
We only took a few at school over a two year period so not really "so many". Seems like others also had IQ tests at their schools so many not so unusual? (mine being in early 80's)
And as said, I just take one every few years for the hell of it, not exactly a big effort or time consuming thing to do and just something I have some interest in.
I am quite happy being average.
Yep, not something we can choose. Given the choice I may have been happier as a child/young adult to have been of average IQ and not a high functioning autistic person but there you go.
My cat. Spends the day asleep, wanders on for Dreamies and goes back to sleep.
Given the choice I may have been happier as a child/young adult to have been of average IQ and not a high functioning autistic person but there you go.
Is high IQ and autism necessarily connected?
https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-statistics-asd
31% of children with ASD have an intellectual disability (intelligence quotient [IQ] <70), 25% are in the borderline range (IQ 71–85), and 44% have IQ scores in the average to above average range (i.e., IQ >85).
Is high IQ and autism necessarily connected?
This suggests it may be https://www.additudemag.com/high-iq-autism-adhd-patients/
Nearly 2 percent of children aged 8 or younger have been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This statistic is well documented today. What’s surprising is that half of these children also have an average or considerably above-average IQ.
Maybe it isn't and if I hadn't been autistic I may have been exactly the same intelligence wise, but a damn sight better social skills wise but who knows. As I said, not really a choice anybody has is it.
The Stanford-Binet test assigned people to ethnic groups. The patterns of social mobility in the US by ethnic group over the C20th would suggest that IQ reflects social class differences (and some would argue it caused them.) IQ measures IQ not the extent of a fully formed creative, amusing, considerate, collaborative and cooperative adult that you might want as a colleague. Although, if you're lucky, you might get both.
Social skills, spelling, successful career, and general knowledge has nothing to do with intelligence.
There is a link to autism and very high intelligence, as well as depression, introverts.
Some of the most intelligent people I've met have had a hard time due to not necessarily being an extrovert or confident speaker.
According to this article Andy Warhol had an IQ of 86 and Leonardo da Vinci had an IQ of 220.
Which probably explains why divvy Warhol wasn't commissioned to redecorate the Sistine Chapel.
https://drdianehamilton.com/1334-2/
Also according to the article Stephen Hawkins apparently said "people who boast about their IQs are losers”, which sounds a bit harsh bearing in mind that being clever might be the only attribute they can boast about.
Although as someone who is a tad reluctant to reveal my rather average IQ in the presence of some near-geniuses on here, it's good to hear words of encouragement from Stephen Hawkins.
IQ tests just seem to prove you’re good at taking IQ tests. Sort of an entrants exam for the Crystal Maze. Think mine was around 130 or so when I had to take one years ago. Probably sub 100 now.
Never done one. Not sure if that makes me intelligent or not.
Our American cousins have I think 5 different IQ tests.
Tells you a lot about Americans.
I would like to say me. That would be a lie though as I have never met me.
So who is the bloke in the mirror ?
Also according to the article Stephen Hawkins apparently said “people who boast about their IQs are losers”, which sounds a bit harsh bearing in mind that being clever might be the only attribute they can boast about.
While I don't boast about mine, only mentioned as relevant to a thread on intelligence, I wouldn't disagree that my intelligence would be all I could boast about but by many measures I wouldn't consider myself a loser but then I never rated that Hawkins bloke 🙂
He couldn't even walk and chew gum at the same time.
He could for a while and no doubt did that better than I could.
@dyna-ti There is something wrong with my mirror seems to have a grumpy auld git living in it.
LOL! I just found a website that gives a simple 8 questions test.
Apparently my IQ score is "Your IQ score lies within a range of 108 up to 124." LOL! Not a real test but fun.
The test questions are interesting, albeit just 8 simple ones, I just have the answer in my mind first before selecting the multiple choice answer. i.e. I chose to match whatever the multiple choice answer is closest to my answer. In a way I don't look at the answer first. Interesting.
It looks like the questions are testing people to recognise patterns then solve the question with an answer. In way it's like spotting problems (pattern) and then provide a solution.
Luckily there are no math questions coz I will be doomed if that's the case LOL!
