[Closed] Morrisons security guards

I'd question their legal ability to detain you using those handcuffs.

Understandable them wearing stab proofs if the threat of being stabbed has been assessed to be high enough.

Might be outside contractors in which case I'm shocked the management of Morrisons have allowed it as when I worked there as a teenager (so quite a while ago), they were all about the "feel" of a family run shop.

word is the roast chickens were over ordered at the weekend and as a result they will be on sale for 20p each.

announcement due today @ 1500

heard it here first.

It's September, so maybe they are just trying out some of the Halloween range?

Baghdad branch?

The security guard in my local mozzers is a half whit.

Baghdad branch?

No, far worse than that! Portsmouth.

In Bangor Morrisons they have that funny lighting in the toilets to stop people shooting up.

yeah but thats in Bangor at the top of the hill it's not the worlds best area, it's the same in the one on sharrow lane in sheffield

I used to work in a store in Liverpool where stab vests and handcuffs would've constituted 'plain clothes' 🙂

[quote)Baghdad branch?

The sunny Vale of Evesham

 

I can't imagine them being able to do much if they are wearing hand cuffs 😉

Is it even allowed to handle/use handcuffs if you are not the Police?

Seems a bit odd for "restaint" and then there are laws against over exhuberance..

Is it even allowed to handle/use handcuffs if you are not the Police?

Seems a bit odd for "restaint" and then there are laws against over exhuberance..

I can't imagine them being able to do much if they are wearing hand cuffs

Maybe you get to use them as bike locks 😉

The cardboard cutout policeman they have in the foyer always amuse me, I'm always tempted to nick one just for the irony of it!

fasthaggis - Member

I can't imagine them being able to do much if they are wearing hand cuffs

Maybe you get to use them as bike locks

That Sir is a brilliant idea, Handcuffs as bike locks.. Easy fit in your pocket, one key (I guess) can lock easily around the rear wheel/frame whilst the other cuff locks onto something solid..

Winner don'tcha think?? 😀

Bikebouy

I will hunt you down if you become a millionaire with my amazing idea 😉

It is brilliant though dontchafink?

No?? 😀

It would be a real novelty lock ,that's for sure . 😀

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RM.

Crimminal Law Act 1967 " A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime or in the lawful arrest of offenders, suspect offenders or persons unlawfully at large"
In otherwords, yes they coud use them. But they would have to justify their actions if the person they arrested was injured as a result.

You have security guards in your local Morrisons?

Blackpool has a security guard in the library.

Beat that.

is there anything worth nicking in morrisons, chocolate and crips eaters need not respond.Which seeems to be the majority of their customers

My nephew used to be a security guard in a large brewery .
And was told under no circumstance to apprehend anyone, but to call the police and if they run, give chase but don't actually catch them.

One of his colleagues caught some one in an office and locked them in and called the police and he was sacked and told he should have let him make his escape.

@Drac , they've had at least 2 working there for years .

Crimminal Law Act 1967 " A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime or in the lawful arrest of offenders, suspect offenders or persons unlawfully at large"

What constitutes "lawfully arresting" someone? I always thought the citizen's arrest thing was either a myth or outdated, a meringue?

Back in my student days i worked part time as a security guard, and it was common place for security guards to use hand cuffs although the company i worked for didn't use them. We relied on a bit of old fashioned rugby tackling and wrestling, and once a co2 extinguisher

How much do these guys get paid? Putting yourself in harms way for police wages fair enough but for minimum wage (I'm guessing) I wouldn't be so keen to handcuff an aids ridden smack head.

Have you seen where some Morrisons stores are?

A guard will have been stabbed in deepest darkest Bradford, and now standard policy will be for security staff to wear stab vests and carry handcuffs.

Sorry if that upsets your twee middle class town outlook on life.

Or go shop at Booths like proper middle class folk do 🙂

What constitutes "lawfully arresting" someone? I always thought the citizen's arrest thing was either a myth or outdated, a meringue?

Why would you think that? All those Police community support officers have no special powers and can only do a citizen's arrest. They have handcuffs don't they?

Market Street must have gone badly down hill since I last went to Morrison's. It's sad when you need security in a supermarket, especially security with stab proof vests 🙁 I grew up in a crap part of West Yorkshire and still find this......wrong.

Having to don a stab proof vest for a minimum wage job just isn't right. Security guards are supposed to hassle skateboarders and play patience in a little hut on building sites at night.

All those Police community support officers have no special powers and can only do a citizen's arrest. They have handcuffs don't they?

Shirley, but Shirley they are acting "on behalf of, and in capacity of" the Police, therefore have the sanctions to do so.

Morrisons "guards" are just that, guards, like a security guard on a building site, same as you "n" me.. no rights other than citizens arrest (if that is ever still viable and accountable)

don't talk to me about morrisons...

went in there once and ordered an omelette, took one bite half of it was frozen!

i don't know what scared me the most...

1 - frozen omelettes actually exist!

2 - the person in the kitchen couldnt even re-heat a frozen omelette properly

Have you seen where some Morrisons stores are?
A guard will have been stabbed in deepest darkest Bradford, and now standard policy will be for security staff to wear stab vests and carry handcuffs.

Morrisons use a third party company for security, so it won't really be anything other than their policy to look after their staff.

Think they used to use Sabrewatch.

Where do security companies come up with names? Sabrewatch? I must remember to go down the armaments aisle next time I'm shopping, pick up a Morning Star and a Mace on a 'Buy one get one free' deal 😀

No security guards at my local Morrisons.And this has just been placed overlooking the carpark 🙂
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They may be on minimum wage but they do get a uniform and that gives them access to exclusive dating sites.
Besides, their wages are actually subsidised by the Daily Wail who want their readers to be able to shop without feeling intimidated by, well... other less salubrious types of people 😯

In Asda the customers stab them selves

I'd question their legal ability to detain you using those handcuffs.

Understandable them wearing stab proofs if the threat of being stabbed has been assessed to be high enough.

Perfectly legal. I am trained in "Arrest & Plastic Restrain". The Security Guard has the same powers of arrest as anyone else (bar PCSO's as they give up their right to arrest when on duty apparently) ie they can arrest for summary offences (those that are tried at the Crown Court)

I've arrested a couple or 3 people in my time and they've been cuffed - it is a very handy tool to have*

*although, if I was a security guard in mozzers, I'd be more than a little embarrassed if I needed to resort to cuffing someone over a 7p can of baked beans

nick.. nearly crashed when i saw that this weekend.. whats it all about..

ps security guards in supermarkets are all contractors certainly not employees of supermarket. theres is probably in the worst three jbs of all time. its soul destroying mind numbingly boring and the worst pay and conditions imaginable. they even have to pay double price for food in tesco staff restaurants..

totalshell
No idea,think that land may belong to the church.
I've also noticed a couple of arty graffitti slogans across town too.
Probably some Hebdeners 🙂
PSA Morrisons own brand curry sauce 20p at the moment,saw a woman with a trolley full today.

they even have to pay double price for food in tesco staff restaurants..

They certainly won't have to in Morrisons.

I'm not employed directly by Morrisons and I get staff rates in the canteens.

As do the people collecting for charities in the foyer, local police that happen to be passing, window cleaners, and basically anyone else that has a reason to be in the store for a reason other than shopping.

Charged the police in the canteen, never.
As a schoolboy I used to deliver pizzas for dominos and if an officer of the law came in there was no charge, we often delivered pizzas to the station, again no charge.

And the police had some sort of charity funday one weekend and literally every other pizza that day was for them, no charge.

But then we had a couple of armed robberies while I was there and had to hit the panic button a couple of times because of drunks trying to attack the shop staff late at night.

And they were always there mob handed in minutes, car doors flung open and out before the car had even stopped.
So the manager did not begrudge them a few free pizzas.

They still pay staff rates in the staff canteen at Morrisons.

(But at £1.35 for a full breakfast with toast and tea, it's hardly expensive 🙂 )

Never seen any security at all in our local Morrison's. ASDA though...they have bouncers on a Friday and Saturday night. But that's a bit of a ropey area...

I figured CID had a system where they pinned a piece of every takeaway box on a pin board near the phone.
Much in the same way the native Americans used to hang the skulls of the animals they had hunted from the trees so others could see what animals and in what numbers had been hunted recently as to save them from rinsing any one particular species.
😀

That Sir is a brilliant idea, Handcuffs as bike locks.. Easy fit in your pocket, one key (I guess) can lock easily around the rear wheel/frame whilst the other cuff locks onto something solid..

they can arrest for summary offences (those that are tried at the Crown Court)