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Interesting wee clip. I'm sure I can see a bit of doubt on Cruise's face in a few shots.

No wonder films cost so much to make these days.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 10:42 am
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Fair play to the bloke. Like him or not, that took some balls!


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 10:58 am
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Watched that last night. Impressive, mad, and shows he’s absolutely dedicated to his craft.

Tom Cruise is doing a sterling job of single handedly keeping bonkers action stunt coordinators in work. Can you IMAGINE the insurance costs though.
“Sorry, Mr Cruise wants to do WHAT now?!”

I still cant believe he’s 60… there has to be a horrible Dorian Gray portrait somewhere doesn’t there?


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 10:58 am
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I'm grinning like an absolute loon, I cannot WAIT for these films to come out. Whereas the Bond films have got stodgier and stodgier, the Mission Impossible films* have just got better and better.

* with the exception of MI2, which was, admittedly, dreadful, and I think the reason that Cruise stepped in to produce as he wasn't having that any more


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:07 am
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He wasn't even wearing a helmet, and he did it 6 times!

Very impressive.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:09 am
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The Biggest Stunt in Cinema History

Saw Tom Cruise & [I]totally[/I] misread that.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:11 am
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Mind blowing!

That stunt must have cost millions alone.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:18 am
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I remember seeing a similar stunt on Nitro Circus going wrong and the motorbike ended up falling more slowly than Travis Pastrana so he ended up underneath the bike whilst falling and needing to pull the parachute! Think he pulled right at the last minute.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:24 am
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It makes my balls tingle just seeing the vertical drops off the side of the mountain.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:26 am
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Posted : 20/12/2022 11:27 am
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double post.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:33 am
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“Sorry, Mr Cruise wants to do WHAT now?!”

There's some talk of him going to space for either then next MI or some other "Tom Cruise wants to make a film".
Actually real proper space, not filming in a zero-G plane and a soundstage...

The steam-train-off-a-quarry stunt was filmed near mine.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:34 am
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SIX TAKES riding a bike off a cliff and transitioning into a base jump. I think after the second or third, I'd be a little peeved if it wasn't in the can.

the Mission Impossible films* have just got better and better.

I have the unpopular opinion that the third one was the best. Philip Seymour Hoffman was certainly the best villain.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:35 am
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I think after the second or third, I’d be a little peeved if it wasn’t in the can.

That's why he's in charge. He's doing it for himself. All the bucks stop with him. Amazing stuff.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:36 am
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Interested to know how many base jumps in total he's done. Even a single 'vanilla' base jump apparently carries a 0.04% chance of death, I suppose due the risk of the canopy not deploying properly with no time to do anything about it, or other uncontrollable risks. Plus the not inconsiderable extra risk of something going wrong in the ride up/separate from bike covered in cameras bit.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:40 am
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I have the unpopular opinion that the third one was the best. Philip Seymour Hoffman was certainly the best villain.

He definitely was, he was proper dead-eyed terrifying.

I think the first was good, the second was really dreadful, and the third proved that there was life in the franchise if they made it a bit smarter. With the success of the third (and, I would imagine, the sheer force of nature that is Mr Cruise) meant the budgets clearly increased for the ones after that so it became more of a 'spectacle', leading to enormo-stunts as above...


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:44 am
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He practices stunts for weeks, a lot more practice and safety than an average base jump or bike trick.

He is probably one of the last to keep going like this, and it works well, the stunts cost a fortune, but it’s free advertising for the film in a lot of ways, all very clever.

I believe he also only does stunts where he’s the only one to suffer if it goes wrong and leaves multi stuntmen stuff to the pros for life endangering stuff.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:45 am
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Interested to know how many base jumps in total he’s done. Even a single ‘vanilla’ base jump apparently carries a 0.04% chance of death

So that means a 99.96% chance of survival. If he's done 100 jumps (which there's every chance he has), the chances of him surviving them all are .9996^100, which is 67%, give or take. 2-1 odds, oof.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:49 am
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I want to know what happened to all the smashed up bikes dribbling petrol and oil all over the countryside.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:51 am
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I doubt he's done 100 base jumps, I think he's done a LOT of regular skydives, and has a lot better preparation/training than a lot of people, but even so, imagine the insurance premiums!


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:56 am
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Did it say what happened to the motorbike? Was there some way to recover it, or did they just have to collect many pieces of motorbike from the ground afterwards?


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:57 am
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SIX TAKES riding a bike off a cliff and transitioning into a base jump. I think after the second or third, I’d be a little peeved if it wasn’t in the can.

I'm fairly convinced that he's doing it because he just loves doing it. There's been loads of "behind the scenes" stuff on his stunts - the one where he's hanging off the side of the A400? That one was about 8 takes. The parachute jump into Paris was apparently about 12 jumps.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:57 am
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* with the exception of MI2, which was, admittedly, dreadful, and I think the reason that Cruise stepped in to produce as he wasn’t having that any more

Opening shot in Utah for the climbing scene was brilliant, though.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:57 am
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Even a single ‘vanilla’ base jump apparently carries a 0.04% chance of death

A fixed percentage regardless of the actual height / proximity to objects etc?

Or is that the % the main chute fails to deploy?

As base jumps go, that one is pretty high - the risk of death must increase massively as the height drops...

SIX TAKES riding a bike off a cliff and transitioning into a base jump. I think after the second or third, I’d be a little peeved if it wasn’t in the can.

Pretty sure he's loving every one of them!

Plus he's a perfectionist, so get as many different takes as you can so you can combine footage to get the best end result.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 11:59 am
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Cruise's dedication is phenomenal and the MI films have been terrific.

I admire him a lot. He's good with he locals too.

We once rented some special lenses to a job where Cruise was involved - he took a shine to the lenses apparently.

He's the only star currently delivering in cinema and I'm damn excited for this new MI film.

However for all the expense in these blockbusters the only constant is the reliance on gaffer tape! Spotted several times there.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:05 pm
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the risk of death must increase massively as the height drops…

The risk of death only really starts at ground level, unless you hit something on the way down, obviously. 🙂

I get what you mean obviously, the choice of location and the clearance he gets from the cliff due to the speed will help. The added complexity of separating cleanly from the bike makes up for that. It's just that there is a degree of uncontrollable risk in base jumping which makes it mind-boggling for someone like Cruise to go at it repeatedly.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:09 pm
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I’m grinning like an absolute loon, I cannot WAIT for these films to come out. Whereas the Bond films have got stodgier and stodgier, the Mission Impossible films* have just got better and better.

Totally.

Bond fell off a green screen cliff years ago for me one old bank holiday Monday

(I'm pretty sure they would have done a proper clean up job.)

Sure, John Woo wasn't a good fit but the Moab stuff is good.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:19 pm
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So that means a 99.96% chance of survival. If he’s done 100 jumps (which there’s every chance he has), the chances of him surviving them all are .9996^100, which is 67%, give or take. 2-1 odds, oof.

0.04% is the probability per event, so over 100 events it would be something like a 4% chance of it occurring over those 100 events, again this would be a statistical chance, not the same across the board.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:24 pm
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Very good!


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:26 pm
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I'm not that familiar with MI. Which one is it where the motorbike tyres switch from road tyres to knobblies and back again during a chase across twisty tarmac and dusty desert?


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:27 pm
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I’m not that familiar with MI. Which one is it where the motorbike tyres switch from road tyres to knobblies and back again during a chase across twisty tarmac and dusty desert?

2.

I actually quite liked 2, it's got a distinctive John Woo style and the scenery is amazing. As a "franchise finding it's feet" movie, it's good, it introduces Luther - although it obviously sort of glosses over what happens to Nyah.

Was in Sydney a couple of months ago, saw a lot of the locations. The "bad guy house on the bay" was a set - we stood on the actual site which was just a small public park. Bare Island Fort (the "secure Biotech facility") is cool, I've ridden over that wooden bridge. 🙂


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 12:59 pm
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0.04% is the probability per event, so over 100 events it would be something like a 4% chance of it occurring over those 100 events

That's a big old stats fail I'm afraid (as confirmed by MrsIHN, who's a professional risk-calculating number-cruncher)


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:06 pm
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I actually quite liked 2

I remember liking it at the time, but rewatched two or three months ago as All4 had all the MI films so went through the lot. It's really, really bad.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:08 pm
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It's quite interesting watching the filming part of it. It looks like he's jumping a normal rig, as opposed to a BASE one, so oddly has the option to both use an AAD and/or pitch his reserve if he has time or gets line twists. It's for sure a BASE canopy though, super-big and docile and is being folded so it opens as good as it can be.

30 jumps a day was mentioned, with 500 jumps total. I'd like to know if his total jump numbers are 500 or if that is just for that film. Either way, 30 jumps a day is a lot. Even doing back to back with two rigs and packers it's hard for a professional team of AAA jumpers to maintain over 20. I guess he doesn't care so much about debriefing and has a plane on tap, but even 30 hop-n-pops takes time for the climb and canopy ride down.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:36 pm
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I’d like to know if his total jump numbers are 500 or if that is just for that film

AIUI he's been skydiving for years, so I'd expect his total numbers to be much higher...


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:39 pm
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He's got a tonne of tunnel time though. From what I remember, Milko and Sian spent a lot of time with him getting him ready for the Paris/C17 stunt.

On the jumping, I think he stopped when the money behind his films realised he could get hurt. When he started producing his own he realised he could do that again, so started. He was a USPA B license (again?) for the C17 jump, but must have had more than that. He needed B to wear a visor. To be fair to him, if I had his money, I'd be spending most of my time jumping. Mine has to be worked around, well, work.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:42 pm
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Yeh looking forward to it, saw them filming while out on an mtb ride. Love MI films though rewatched 2 amazed it didn't break the franchise.

There's the stunt where he broke his ankle in the last MI film. They actually used this take in the film where he hobbles off still in character! clip here


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 1:58 pm
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The detail and dedication he puts into his films pays off, they’re brilliantly entertaining and that’s what he aims for. Absolutely nuts stunt that and six times.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:01 pm
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@Drac... Don't read about the wingsuit BASE in the new Point Break then: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/12/how-the-creators-of-point-break-filmed-a-death-defying-wingsuit-stunt

I do not disagree with anyone about Tom's energy and enthusiasm, but that ^^^ is a level above.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:05 pm
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has a plane on tap

and endless supply of motorbikes, choppers, drones, lackeys, scaffolders, diggers, fluffers


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:35 pm
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I think we can all agree Tom Cruise is completely bananas 😯


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:45 pm
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@IHN

.9996^100, which is 67%, give or take

I agree it's .9996^100, but I make that 96%  (0.961)


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:53 pm
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So that means a 99.96% chance of survival. If he’s done 100 jumps (which there’s every chance he has), the chances of him surviving them all are .9996^100, which is 67%, give or take. 2-1 odds, oof.

0.04% is the probability per event, so over 100 events it would be something like a 4% chance of it occurring over those 100 events

That’s a big old stats fail I’m afraid (as confirmed by MrsIHN, who’s a professional risk-calculating number-cruncher)

Multiple stats fails 😀 @IHN you need to check your working - my sums say 0.9996^100 is a 96% chance of survival, I think you went with 0.996^100 to get 67% (so 0.4% chance of death per jump rather than 0.04%), which coincidentally means a 4% chance of death as @argee said.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 2:54 pm
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I agree it’s .9996^100, but I make that 96% (0.961)

Google says...

**EDIT - aaaaaaaaaaagh, I did 0.996, not 0.9996. Right maths, but fat fingers 🙂


 
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I underwrite insurance for some fairly interesting stuff but I stay away from this kind of madness. I'd love to know the premium on this little number...


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 3:07 pm
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Don’t read about the wingsuit BASE in the new Point Break then:

That film doesn’t exist.


 
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I'd also like to know what happen to the motorbike(s) - presumably there was either 1) some sort of late deploying parachute we don't see or 2) a whole group of people combing the ground at the bottom as I can't believe they'd just leave them after all that.....


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 3:45 pm
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**** me that's impressive.  Even if you know you've rehearsed the shit out of it you still have to actually do it


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 4:57 pm
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Hats off to the man, that was phenomenal. Bloody hell.

Am a big fan of the MI films and can’t wait to see this one. Didn’t realise how much of an adrenaline junkie Tom Cruise is, but 6 times riding a motocross bike off a cliff into a BASE jump! Unbelievable. I bet the footage for the film is amazing.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 5:47 pm
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**** me that’s impressive. Even if you know you’ve rehearsed the shit out of it you still have to actually do it

Yep, controlling fear on the real thing would be my Achilles heel...


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 5:50 pm
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Can’t help feeling this has ruined the film somewhat though, would’ve been better to wait & release this after (I know they want to build up buzz, etc)
Normally don’t even watch trailers and now I’ve already seen the film’s biggest stunt from like 6 different angles 😂 so it’s going to have considerably less wow-factor now when I see the actual movie!


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 5:56 pm
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Unless it’s the opening sequence that stunt will be no more than 1-2mins of the film. Mad.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 6:30 pm
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Gotta love Tom!


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 6:38 pm
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It is a real shame that such a charismatic and clearly productive person is so deeply involved in a brainwashing cult that destroys so many lives.


 
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So that means a 99.96% chance of survival. If he’s done 100 jumps (which there’s every chance he has), the chances of him surviving them all are .9996^100, which is 67%, give or take. 2-1 odds, oof.

Someone will be along soon with a Bayesian approach 😉

Tom Cruise is a phenomenal force in movie making. He comes over as very authentic and a real enthusiast for doing the best job possible. Money makes this easier of course, but he is amazing in what he does and how he does it.


 
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That film doesn’t exist.

I think "new" is stretching things.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2058673/


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 7:32 pm
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It is a real shame that such a charismatic and clearly productive person is so deeply involved in a brainwashing cult that destroys so many lives.

I didn't know he was a Catholic


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 7:42 pm
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Catholic? I thought they meant Christian.


 
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Pick any one from a dozen organised faiths.


 
Posted : 20/12/2022 9:03 pm
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Surprised there's no reviews here yet!

I love this franchise - they clearly put a lot of effort into making the films work on many levels.

Dead Reckoning - got to see it in a cinema in Grand Junction whilst on holiday to get out of the heat!

The film ticks many entertaining boxes but suffers a little for me. Too much has been made of the stunts and action scenes and are no longer as exciting due to over exposure.

The plot is potentially interesting with an AI theme but gets confusing quickly as to who is doing what. It starts off clear enough but I quickly got side tracked by what everyone was up to, and the baddies were not well defined, and not particularly threatening.

Not a patch on the last few films but still a bar above anything else that is a blockbuster.

I felt this was trying to out do  Indiana Jones this time too. It had shifted slightly towards that which I wasn't as keen on.

Still worth the trip to the cinema though.

Great soundtrack. And kudos to the editing, very clear actions scenes and the 2hrs43 flew by.


 
Posted : 17/07/2023 1:31 pm
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Surprised there’s no reviews here yet!

Ahem...

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/oooh-theres-a-new-mission-impossible-trailer/


 
Posted : 17/07/2023 1:43 pm
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What the hell is is doing in a trailer titles thread when we have correctly named thread?


 
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Bit of a resurrection of a thread, but we were in Hellesylt yesterday in view of the mountain Lil’ Tommy rode off.

This is apparently one of the bikes recovered. New bombers and a pair of wheels and it should be good to go ??


 
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Oh , picture didn’t work


 
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