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[Closed] Minor storm damage...mortar for roof and hanging tiles

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 bubs
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We got off lightly after storm Eunice. As far as I can see so far, we only have some blown mortar around the tiles on our porch. I'm not very DIY. Do I need a special mortar to fix this and would you remove all the local tiles and re-sit them first?

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Posted : 19/02/2022 3:00 pm
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That looks like the tile hanging has moved away from the mortar to me. Has the porch come away from the wall?


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 3:24 pm
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Just been up a ladder and I think you could be right. Looks like old movement revealed now the tiles have moved. So what mortar/cement to temporarily fill a gap and fix/support tiles? ☹️


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 4:39 pm
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It does look like the whole porch roof has moved. I'd want to look at the structure. I suspect whatever was holding it to the wall is not doing that so much now. Can you see much from inside? You might need to remove a few tiles (or open up the ceiling), repair what's wrong then refit the tiles. I wouldn't just fill the gap unless you are sure it isn't going to move more.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 4:57 pm
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It might need to be structurally tied to the wall with metal brackets before you repair it.

Any cracks or damp on the inside?

Is there any movement when you give it a very gentle pull?

How long have you owned the house? Did the previous owners just fill it with mortar to get through a house survey?

If your not very DIY then I'd get a builder out and also consider speaking to your insurance company.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 5:30 pm
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As above - looks like the whole porch has moved. Or the house!


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 5:58 pm
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No cracks or damp on the inside near there. Very little or no movement if wiggled...it still feels solid. Lived here 14 years. It does now make me wonder why our neighbour just has porch gallow brackets on their side of this 1930s semi but we also have a support post? Not a great time to be looking for a builder.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 6:02 pm
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Whatever you do soak the area before adding mortar and also use a paint brush to add loads of PVA on the wet areas before adding any new mortar. The soaking and PVA will help the new mortar bond better.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 7:05 pm
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I got one picture of the porch and then lots of pictures of bike frames, forks, the moon… I didn’t want to go any further, is this normal?


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 7:14 pm
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Posted : 19/02/2022 8:17 pm
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It'll probably need most of the tiles stripping off the roof then the timber that the rafters are nailed to can be refixed to the wall, the original cut nails have probably pulled out. This should pull the tile hanging back behind the pointing. Then put the tiles back. All depends how diy you feel.
Will be much easier from a tower scaffold or similar than a ladder.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 9:14 pm
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I'm guessing the porch is bolted on properly, so it's just the mortar has broken up and slipped, i'm not an expert, but do you need to redo the mortar, would a bit of prep and flashing not look better and do the job better?


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 9:29 pm
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Posted : 19/02/2022 9:31 pm
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Would check that verge on the porch as well, it looks a bit weird, was there a trim over the edge of that, the more i look at it the more it looks like it's come away a bit at the top, which would require a bit more work than just redoing the mortar, i'd check for any movement in that and see if you need to get it supported and strengthened, otherwise it's just going to get worse.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 9:37 pm
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The vertical joint, is that some sort of sand mastic they've used there? It looks like it could be flexible but it's hard to tell


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 9:50 pm
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Thanks all. Sounds like I need someone to take a proper look at it and work out what's going on.. we have the other side we can compare to. I'll just plug the holes until this bad weather passes.


 
Posted : 19/02/2022 10:25 pm

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