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Bought a DeRosa King XS, that I couldn't afford and didn't need.
Then bought some carbon aero wheels, and as a 50th present to myself, had Di2 fitted.
It only gets ridden on nice days and will see me to the grave I imagine, currently looking to replace the 3650 Scribes with some 5065's, because Aero (and it'll look cool)
It's probably the reason I'm still on 26" MTB!
Midlife crisis purchase/investment/impulse buy/PSA whatever ...
Walked into John Lewis few days just to see what's going on with sales (not exactly intending to buy anything), ended up with:
1. SkottsbergCast Iron Frying Pan, 24cm x 2
2. SkottsbergCast Iron Frying Pan, 28cm x 1
3. SkottsbergCast Iron Wok with Helper Handle, 34cm x 1
If you love to cook and want a lightweight cast iron, get them. These are really good. I am amazed that the Chinese can make such strong and lightweight cast iron pan and wok (traditional cast iron wok is much heavier). I am still trying to figure out how they make them.
Can anyone explain to me how they make lightweight cast iron?
Same. I either work from home or commute on foot. My last fun car was awesome but it just sat there doing nothing 90% of the time. I had to think of excuses to take it out.
Same back when I had my Audi S5 (V8, manual). Too good and fantastic a car to be sat doing nothing, but couldn't find reasons to use it more!
Mind you, driving back from a skiing trip in it was always cracking
What's the Boxter been like to run in terms of expense, I am retiring in 6 months and have a Porsche Cayman itch 😉
the key to a fun car if you don't commute is to have one that you can use day-to-day. I've a gt86 at the moment as bikes & surfboards will go in it, or I can carry both the kids around (and for shortish journeys, my wife and both kids as well). It still doesn't get used enough, but we logistically need a second car, so it might as well be one that's good.
Absolutely nothing pictured on this thread made me think I'd missed out on a mid-life crisis (at 40) during covid.
Backpacking through Europe or Asia on a 6 month sabbatical would be far more fun.
Can anyone explain to me how they make lightweight cast iron?
Make it thin, but with clever heat treatment to also make it tough would be my guess.
mid-life crisis (at 40)
OK youngster, get back to us in a decade. 🙂
OK youngster, get back to us in a decade.
But with the current avergae life expectancy, 40 is very much mid-life (less if your Glaswegian) ?
@nicko74 yep it’s a quad. It’s amazing and my daily. Somehow I had four kids and two dogs in it the other night.
@peteimpreza that’s a gorgeous colour. I need to take better care of mine aesthetically. She doesn’t get washed or hoovered out as much as she deserves - I’m too busy driving it!.
with winter tyres and its diff it’s oddly capable.
Another boxster owner here. The 3.2 variety. My daily driver cupra estate is faster 0-60, and far more practical. But the sound of that flat 6 engine puts a smile on my face like the cupra never will.
Plus it cost a quarter of the price of the cupra...
No regrets..
Reported for refering to a car as 'she'
Just taken my pension lump sum at 55.
The 1098s kills my shoulders these days so one of these is under serious consideration. The police love to see a wheelie don’t they?
40 is very much mid-life (less if your Glaswegian)?
Interesting. I don't think it's linear. I'm going to say mid life starts at 50, and probably runs to 65. After that you're officially old.
Maybe, (as a 50 year old) this even changes as the years progress. Would like to get the views of someone in their 30's and 70's.
Ooh, maybe a bit philosophical. Back to the photos of inheritance destroyers.
Well, if I've had a crisis it kicked off in my mid/late 30's.
Big daft motorbikes through my twenties, then long term illness for mrs f meant we merely existed as a family through late twenties and early 30's.
Lots of getting fit again in my late 30's, cycling, then big daft motorbikes again. Then off racing for 8 years.
Knocked that on the head early last year and decided I'd give enduro a try, having never ridden off-road. Turns out it's not easy, getting the hang of it now though 😀
Stepped up the exercise approx. 4 years ago, cycling, weights, walking and I'm fitter and stronger than I've ever been. Decided if old age wants me it's got a fight on its hands.
This nugget.
Bought as a fun quick project with a bad engine. Did a trackday in it, liked it, discovered it inexplicably wasn't full of rust holes so I decided to completely refurb and derust it. Back-to-metal everywhere, new suspension,polybushings, just barely avoided needing welded and now will outlast petrol. Bought a whole other car and scrapped it for the motor, now it has a cammed 2.5 litre in it that makes something like 210hp at the wheels.
https://imgur.com/a/heart-transplant-CmVlZQp
I've never had a rear wheel drive car before so that leads to exciting moments like these
Midlife crisis duly enjoyed. Investment? I'm into it for about £3500 and it'd probably sell for over twice that. But it also has about a million hours of labour in it. So, no.
True MLC has to be loud, Italian and in my view stunning. Agree re it has to be usable. This actually has 4 usable seats, a decent boot and absolutely shocking MPG. Had it 2 years now and it still makes me smile when I drive it. Always wanted to own a V8 before they become totally socially unacceptable so it was now or never.
@ plus-one
My first ever car was a 78 clubman. It’s a great drive.Estate version so the dogs can come along
That's a very nice Clubman. I like!
Those with the Gulia’s - how’s reliability?
yes “she”. Last time I checked the name plastered on its boot was feminine. It’s not a steam engine.
That grantourismo is lush.
Re Gran Turismo. He is called Bruno
I’ve never tried to get a bike in it. Although it can sit 4 in reasonable comfort I don’t think you would get one across the back seats. Probably fine if you folded the front seat I’m sure you would get one in.
I have a seasucker set which would work really well. BUT my car has got a full paint protection film wrap including the roof so isn’t suitable for a suction style rack. I have tried it on it and would work well but for that.
Slower than my wife’s Tesla to 60, has an antiquated sat nav, no Apple CarPlay, doesn’t actually handle that well in comparison to a hot hatch but take it through a tunnel in sport mode and your heart smiles.
I’d love an Alfa too but need an estate and the only real option is a 159 which lacks the modern touches I’d like in a daily
Apart from the battery, in which all of the factory supplied ones appear to have had every other cell robbed of their lead content by the mafia, it’s been perfect. Took a while to have it officially diagnosed as shagged
I blew a rear shock absorber up on a really bad pothole, but Alfa just picked up the tab (£800 for the shock!) under warranty with a wink and a smile.
My daughter dropped a full metal water bottle under the passenger seat and then proceeded to drive the seat forward and backward over it with the electric adjuster, breaking the mechanism. Again Alfa handled the bill for our carelessness without question.
i didn’t quite qualify for the 5:5:5 warranty finance maintenance deal as it was a demonstrator. But I managed to buy a 5 year service plan from Alfa for about £1500. One of the 5 included services is booked at 9hrs!
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Good man! ??
Dunno if you follow Hypermotardking on youtube, but here's a vid I made with him the other week...
I think the whole point of it being a "Mid Life Crisis" is if it is so resolutely out of character, that nobody expects it...
Conversely, at 44, I have only recently been able to afford some of the toys and hobbies that have always been expected of me. So not so much of a mid life crisis, more of a mid life actualisation due to financial pressures until now...
Albeit after 2-3yrs of said toys, I am now of course buying a new house and committing HUGE spends towards that for the next few years... So toy spends will have to be curbed a little now for a few years... So if anything, my "mid life crisis" is a 4 bedroom detatched house with a massive double garage and a 6 berth driveway! ??
I had MLCs for other people in my 20s. They "made" me buy a 2 seater as my daily.
An absolute riot ensued and a rapid process of learning how to mechanic semi successfully.
By the time I was 25 I had this and a modded 2.5 TC saloon which was superb to drive (London to Lands End to Jog to London in 48 hours for example) and would cruise at 100.
I couldn't really justify bringing them to Oz - especially the GT6 as it was too low slung and hot to drive.
@Kryton57 , No mechanical or electrical issues with my Veloce.
One issue with a wheel arch liner all sorted no bother under warranty. Just passed its first MOT with zero advisories.
@hot_fiat , the colour is Verdi Visconti. Vey rare it would seem.
If you let me have a drive of your Quad, I’ll clean it for you!!
Slower than my wife’s Tesla to 60, has an antiquated sat nav, no Apple CarPlay, doesn’t actually handle that well in comparison to a hot hatch but take it through a tunnel in sport mode and your heart smiles.
I know which one I would have, and it's not the tesla! I can't believe how fast 'normal' cars are nowadays. My estate is sub 5 seconds to 60, which not so long ago was super car performance. But it doesn't look like a supercar, and it certainly doesn't sound like one or make you excited to drive it.
That masserati is simply gorgeous...the perfect mlc car imo..
I think the whole point of it being a “Mid Life Crisis” is if it is so resolutely out of character, that nobody expects it…
I completely agree with that, but these days i think the magical 55 years old and pension changes that a little. I've done the motorbike thing, the racing thing, the posh MTB thing, for me when i hit 55 it'll be a VW Crafter camper/race van. Whether the boy is still racing or not it'll still happen and i'll be using it myself for day trips, adventures and potentially a week in Spain/France/Italy etc.
Something along this sort of thing... Looks perfect !!!
I was accused of having a mid life crisis as I rode a mountain bike, I pointed out that I'd always ridden and just never stopped, I'd also just swapped my motorbike for a car and had a child so quite the opposite.
Re Gran Turismo. He is called Bruno
Good mate has a "Bruno".... except he calls his 'the Fiat'!
We took it to Le Mans in 2018 and we'll be back there again next year in it. Probably its last trip as he's looking for a 911 GT2 or 3 - he might keep the Fiat though. He's added Carplay and Android Auto to his which makes doing a longer trip somewhat easier.
That masserati is simply gorgeous…the perfect mlc car imo.
Sounds daft I'm not sure it's really nuts enough for me! It's very nice though.
Yea, I'm not having a crisis at all. I'm buying the things that I can now afford. Although I gave it a good go in my twenties with hot hatches and other nonsense, that I was financially ruined for about 10 years. I have had a Lotus Elise itch that I've always wanted to scratch, but that might turn into a second motorbike at some point in the next couple of years instead.
And I refuse to class 42 as midlife. I'd say 45-60 is midlife. Ish.
I know which one I would have, and it’s not the tesla! I can’t believe how fast ‘normal’ cars are nowadays.
Absolutely. My Monaro - despite the 6.0 LS2 V2 and 400bhp - would get dropped by a modern well-driven hot hatch, particularly if the road had corners.
Definitely not Italian, not female, but most definitely loud: valved exhausts with straight exits after the cats, bypassing all silencers, but the default still being quiet(ish). If you're going to own a V8 you might as well do it right. Bogan-style.
And I refuse to class 42 as midlife. I’d say 45-60 is midlife. Ish.
Spoken like a true 42 year old..you'll have changed your mind in 3 years..;-)
The first 'fast car' I ever went in was an elise. On reflection it probably wasn't that quick, but given its basically a street legal go cart it was absolutely awesome!
True MLC has to be loud, Italian and in my view stunning. Agree re it has to be usable. This actually has 4 usable seats, a decent boot and absolutely shocking MPG. Had it 2 years now and it still makes me smile when I drive it. Always wanted to own a V8 before they become totally socially unacceptable so it was now or never.
The Eco-terrorist in me want's to ride my bike everywhere and listen to Rise Against "The Eco-terrorist in me" at full volume.
But XKR V8's are looking almost affordable. The £800/year VED puts ,me off though for something I really would only use once a month at most!
Always hankered after an Auzzie brute. I looked very closely into bringing back a Commadore SS Ute in the early noughties. Couldn't quite get the cash together. The Monaro shouldn't handle that badly given what it's based upon, though my mate took me out in his stock leon cupra the other day. It's a frikkin' limpet when it comes to grip, so perhaps its just a couple of generations old?
tinas: tax it monthly & sorn it for the bits you don't use it.
The Monaro shouldn’t handle that badly given what it’s based upon, though my mate took me out in his stock leon cupra the other day. It’s a frikkin’ limpet when it comes to grip, so perhaps its just a couple of generations old?
More the age/generation than anything else - sold in 2004/5 but based on a mid/late 90s design. Chassis and handling were good enough, but the steering: decent feedback but very low-geared necessitating a lot of input. The bus-sized steering wheel didn't help. A replacement/faster steering rack apparently worked wonders but mine was kept standard other than the exhaust and coilovers - those only happened as my original top mounts rusted clean through and replacements no longer made. VED: mine was a 2005/05 so escaped the higher tax of the later ones. Exempt from low-emission zones, somehow. Frightening fuel consumption and resulting costs, parts surprisingly cheap and (reasonably) easily sourced from the US (sold as Pontiac GTO over there). I used the absence of depreciation* to offset the running costs.
* Sold if after 4+ years for £250 less than I paid - I was determined to match the figure I paid but buyer wouldn't budge up the extra £250...
I’m reliably informed that the HSV Maloo is the one to get @hot_fiat
Those go for serious money over your way @reeksy, don't they?
Noticed 'my' old Monaro is no longer taxed/MOT'd. I know the rules about ownership/export meant you had to own for 12+ months before importing too Aus, I wonder if that's happened to mine.
@Sharkbait I guess it's a balance between it being usable enough that I can justify owning it and actually using it. If I had a Caterham 7 for example it would be more nuts but probably not used anywhere near as much. Besides this is safer because it isn't about going fast, more about making noise and the luxury feel. I looked at a Mustang too for the V8 but decided I needed the Italian flair
You can add New screens and CarPlay etc but I don't tend to bother. Mine has an iPod adaptor and I can play tunes/podcasts off an old iPod easily enough which just leaves maps on a phone in a holder.
Friend has just taken delivery of Ioniq5N thingy which is mental fast but not my thing
slightly cheeky provocation: Given that the majority of this thread is about buying what are even described by many on this thread as 'toys' it could be considered that mid-life has not yet been reached. I see no mention of existential crisis...one big investment at such times can be in personal development.
slightly cheeky provocation: Given that the majority of this thread is about buying what are even described by many on this thread as ‘toys’ it could be considered that mid-life has not yet been reached. I see no mention of existential crisis…one big investment at such times can be in personal development.
I mean you can read some Kant and drive a noisy red convertible, just not at the same time.
As per my recent thread on here, I've been looking at some Smart Roadters as part of my slightly-greater-than-midlife crisis but I've been told that apparently I can't afford to run another car.(I can), so I think I'll just go and curl up in a corner and die of boredom.
50 next year and fancy a Honda Acty 4x4. Swoon.
I think it comes from my 16 year old me wanting an ex British Gas Rascal to transport my Alpinestars Al-mega (pre elevated stays, DX variant) for adventures. Some things don’t change ?
Vortexracing
What’s the Boxster been like to run in terms of expense, I am retiring in 6 months and have a Porsche Cayman itch
Not bad TBH, I did fit a set of Michelin P4S to replace the Pirelli P Zero's that were great when warm & dry but a bit squeaky bum in the wet.
Also fitted a new battery as many Porsche's of that era are a bit "battery hungry"
Motorway/Fast A road mpg is astonishing for a 3.4L flat 6, Oban to Chester 44mpg. Obviously enjoying it in Sport+ mode on Local North Wales roads can be single figures. On my 4500 mile UK road trip it used 1 ltr of oil and apart from fuel that was it.
I use an independent Porsche service centre & it costs about the same as a Volvo XC60 I had.
I bought mine 15 months before retiring and don't regret it one bit 😀
Nice video mate!
Definitely look like more fun on the twisters, the 1098 doesn’t really work at less than 80 mph and I’ve still got a lot of life to look forward to hopefully ?
Kant
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Hi all
I‘m new here. Was looking for a reasonable bike forum and spotted this topic. It hit me hard at 49… left my home in Germany and emigrated to Norway. Happy that my wife was also open for the „new“ world. I think the rest of my family hates me for escaping. My kids (joined us) like the new home in the meantime, but the rest of the family and friends can’t understand. It‘s now 5 years since, great experience but essentially the crisis isn’t gone. What come next?
Cheers & a great weekend to all of you reading this ??♂️
Andy
Mercedes e400AMG coupe was on the cards but was sold just before I had a test drive booked, ended up buying a Whyte E-160 RSX instead, no regrets
@29_Tommer welcome! If you’re still unfulfilled with life, encourage your children to have children… when you’re a grandparent (the sort that takes part) you will have no inclination or energy left for any other activity!
Thanks! The kids are in the beginning twenties and study remote, so no danger to become a grandpa .. I think 🙂
After 2 years biking (XC) on an old MTB I caught fire this year, bought a new bike and did almost 2ooo km in our short season, now waiting for the first snow. Skis are ready ..
Land sound like an interesting idea. Probably a fairly sade investment too. Not interested in a car unless it was a small campervan but they're all diesel and don't want a diesel.
I've invested in about 8kg of body fat, taken a while to build up with a combination of some decent beers and posh restaurants but it's pretty cheap to keep it now I've got it
Hi all
I‘m new here. Was looking for a reasonable bike forum and spotted this topic. It hit me hard at 49… left my home in Germany and emigrated to Norway. Happy that my wife was also open for the „new“ world. I think the rest of my family hates me for escaping. My kids (joined us) like the new home in the meantime, but the rest of the family and friends can’t understand. It‘s now 5 years since, great experience but essentially the crisis isn’t gone. What come next?
Cheers & a great weekend to all of you reading this ??♂️
Andy
Move to somewhere sunnier, with easy accessible skiing for when you get that itch 🙂
I took advantage of Brexit, or rather it forced my hand and moved to Spain, why spend your life in a cold miserable climate when you can have more sun and a more playful population.
I went to a beer fest last week bands and dj during the day and the usual disco til 2 in the morning over 3 days so everyone has a chance to play and this being Spain all age groups were catered for and the old people weren’t particularly worried about being caught up in the ensuing water fights .
and I find I have a bigger playground for other interesting toys
slightly cheeky provocation: Given that the majority of this thread is about buying what are even described by many on this thread as ‘toys’ it could be considered that mid-life has not yet been reached. I see no mention of existential crisis…one big investment at such times can be in personal development.
Hmm at 50 something I think I’ve reached my pinnacle in personal development and am planning a steady decline in debauchery and having fun with my toys as opposed to becoming some old person who tuts and moans about everything and everyone 🙂
I think you can still keep that spark of fun and childish interest in things you have as a kid but it takes more work.
Motorway/Fast A road mpg is astonishing for a 3.4L flat 6, Oban to Chester 44mpg.
What?!!
MrsSB's 718 did 41mpg on a trip from North London to Chester and that was with a fair bit of 50 limit and the rest at 70 on the cruise control!
Around town she gets <30.
Lovely car though.... Just keep an eye on the roof drains.
Quit the rat race. Sold everything other than three bikes and now live in a van.
The only thing I want more of is time to do the things I enjoy.
Don't get excited by cars. Although I would consider a Caterham if and when I find a place I want to live.
Has anyone built a kit car with their kids? Its the next thing on my list in a few years once they're old enough (2 boys, 5 and 8 at the moment). Figure it might be good father son bonding but might also just be me alone in the garage..
I'd love to have done something like that, but found my kids aren't both mechanically inclined. The younger one would be keen to join in, but the older one prefers developing car designs and mods on paper and screen.
If I had done it I know for certain it would be me alone in the garage.
I did this kind of stuff in my 20s with my Dad and later my Father in Law, and that was good.
Our Kids are 7, 9 and 15; eldest has zero interest, younger two love the going out in the fury, less so the working on it. A 'quick' build like a Caterham / westfeld might keep their attention as they can see it literally turn from a box of bits into a sportscar. But anything that needs fabricating or painting and you'll soon be on your own I think.
On the other hand, toylander have a sale on right now, and it would be 'theirs' at the end of it. Should be quicker build, and no IVA. Then sell it on when they outgrow it and use as a deposit on a kit....
I preempted my midlife crisis and spent 5 years being paid to drive stupid fast/expensive/capable cars.
Now i should be in the midst of my midlife crisis (early 50s) and can't be bothered.
For the Alfa Giulia owner(s?) above. I've no real interest in cars, definitely no reason or great desire to own anything thats either fast or impractical but it feels like the Giulia is the last truly beautiful car any mainstream manufacturer is going to make. So much better looking than anything else in recent years.
Theres one I pass frequently when I'm out on the bike and it's got small wheels with big sidewalls and it just looks great.
Personal story? I bought a set of Pioneer CDJs. They sat pretty much unused for about 18 months (I realised I had better things to do that hang around building DJ sets and wasn't going to have the time or inclination to 'play out' even if I got good. Sold them to a couple of 17 years olds who came over in one of their mother's cars from Clapham and as we carried them out of the house made some joke about 'can afford to get some food in now' which they came back with 'you grown ups are always so hung up about money'
I think I was still under 30 at the time.
can’t be bothered
I am in this camp. Despite fawning over the Gulia I don’t have the desire to pay for one and boy I’d love to drive a desirable/ sports car, and after a Pandemic rise in horological interested have lost the will to buy in that area as well.
With post GSCE and Secondary school children my interest is firmly in their future as we go through their start to adult life over the next few years and for me it’s experiences with them that is important.
Im lucky enough that if have to buy something e.g. our hoover just died, I am the position to look for the best one I can afford for the next few years and be content with that as “material”.
Has anyone confronted their growing sense of mortality by cycling round the world/opening a tea shop/training to become the ultimate fighting champion/any other radical change?
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The idea of a midlife crisis violates the Categorical Imperative and therefore is in itself an immoral act.
I think I got over MLC cars in my twenties when a series of Spitfires ended up eventually with a fairly lairy Westfield. Utterly impractical and not cheap to run as it turns out but fun for the couple of days a year when the weather's OK to drive it.
In my early 50s I took up Olympic weightlifting again as a Master (I'd done it as a schoolboy and a junior). Won a few regional and British championships and finished in the medals at European and World championships.
I'm now 61 and had a partial knee replacement last year...
No more MLCs for me. 🙂
Bought a Landcruiser. I don't really see it as a MLC it wasn't really planned or lusted after. Just right place/time and it's worked out.
Probably more so than the Caterham I wanted to build. That's still not off the cards but my MLC would be a significant windfall spent on a 911. (Cos unlikely to get one any other way). I know myself way to well to avoid a motorbike purchase. Though watching some dude on the autobahn's thrashing a Hayabusa does stir me a little!!!
I think ive been having MLC since I was about 25 (now 51) , but I might just be over it now. I sold my caterham 7 last year, although I did buy a GR Yaris shortly after I sold the caterham.
I fancy a cayman GTS 4 or possibly a cayman GT4, but I just dont think I can bring myself to spend that much on a car - especially as it would hardly ever get used, and I reckon the yaris is a match for either of those on any road - hence I reckon I'm being sensible now.
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Has anyone built a kit car with their kids? Its the next thing on my list in a few years once they’re old enough (2 boys, 5 and 8 at the moment). Figure it might be good father son bonding but might also just be me alone in the garage..
My other half (44) is currently looking for a Cayman. Does that count as a mid life crisis? However, she currently has an mx5. With a son who is mad about cars, I'm finding it very hard not to think about keeping the tatty 5 and looking at MEV Exocets as a father/son project.
Has anyone built a kit car with their kids?
A friend of mine has been building a kit car since before he had kids.
He's been through a marriage, 2 kids, divorce, about 50 other cars, 3 businesses (Self employed) 7 or 8 jobs (All in the automotive field), 4 homes, a 25 house property portfolio and the eldest just left home.
The kit car is still, very much, a kit. He's also had several different engines for it. (Starting with a 90bhp ford CVH, which was when i met the guy, currently has a 400 bhp turbo charged Toyota lump "ready to go in".)
I suspect he'll start working on it when he retires. In about 20 years.
Sounds like the only constant in his life. It must be reassuring for him to not build it.
I've just brought a second hand 20" folding bicycle which has made me happy. I really must set my sights higher. Go me!
sharkbait
What?!!
MrsSB’s 718 did 41mpg on a trip from North London to Chester and that was with a fair bit of 50 limit and the rest at 70 on the cruise control!
Around town she gets <30.
Lovely car though…. Just keep an eye on the roof drains.
For some reason my South of the UK road trip didn't return such good MPG figures, even on motorways. I think it's down to the cleaner air up North, that or much higher traffic levels in the south 😉