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Two men of my own age sitting right now in a coffee shop, some of the most mean-spirited, narrow-minded, sanctimonious people I have ever overheard.
They hate:
- People who learn to skate in their thirties
- Millennials, just because
- Sporting injuries taking up NHS resources - despite one of them obese and jowly
- One of them who is apparently a professional YouTuber but decrying social influencers
And so much more…
Sometimes I really dislike middle-aged people.
Ask yourself if you would want to swap lives with them. I bet you wouldn’t. Hate turns to pity.
Sometimes I really dislike middle-aged people
Wot! Just like sometimes they don't like millennials ?
Move on - if you listen into other peoples conversations you will never feel empowered
Are they premier members on here? I bet they would fit right in.
They just sound bitter that they feel out of touch and now aren't confident enough to do what they're secretly jealous of.
I'm middle-aged and a skateboarder. The only thing I hate about millennials are their tolerance for hangovers and their supple knees.
some of the most mean-spirited, narrow-minded, sanctimonious people I have ever overheard.
Do you do much overhearing?
It's always amusing when Millennials are being referred to. By most definitions, they are mostly in their 30's yet the people using it as an insult think they're referring to people in their teens and early 20's

The OP earlier today. Yes, I am aware that the age of this character outs me as middle aged.
It’s always amusing when Millennials are being referred to. By most definitions, they are mostly in their 30’s yet the people using it as an insult think they’re referring to people in their teens and early 20’s
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/
It’s always amusing when Millennials are being referred to. By most definitions, they are mostly in their 30’s yet the people using it as an insult think they’re referring to people in their teens and early 20’s
Very much this. Especially when it’s pointed out that some are the other side of 40.
I am a 40 year old millenial. Rain your misery down on me
Two men of my own age sitting right now in a coffee shop, some of the most mean-spirited, narrow-minded, sanctimonious people I have ever overheard.
You've lead a sheltered life if that's the most mean spirited, narrow-minded, sanctimonious stuff you've ever heard.
You’ve lead a sheltered life if that’s the most mean spirited, narrow-minded, sanctimonious stuff you’ve ever heard.
These were the tame examples.
Do you do much overhearing?
Not much 😉, as:
- My hearing is now impaired
- I don’t spend a lot of time sitting in coffee shops anymore
But they were talking really loudly!
Middle-Aged Judgemental Helmets
The new, must have STW accessory!
Everything they said was critical of everyone else and just negative - apart from when they were bigging themselves up. Bloody depressing pair.
Middle-Aged Judgemental Helmets
The new, must have STW accessory!
MAJ is the new MIPS
That's the MTV Generation for you.
How was the handshake when they left the cafe?
🙂
OP, how old are you? Just so I can insert an age bracket into "OP is a <approx age> judgemental helmet".
Pot. Kettle etc etc etc
Everything they said was critical of everyone else and just negative
Did you manage to overhear their opinions of Christmas?
Middle-Aged Judgemental Helmets
The new, must have STW accessory!
Are they on a Black Friday deal???
I am a 40 year old millenial. Rain your misery down on me
Sounds like a load of Garbage to me.
Did you manage to overhear their opinions of Christmas?
They won't need one. Didn't you hear, Muslims are getting it cancelled.
That’s the MTV Generation for you.
I blame the radios
I'm technically Gen-X but I feel millenial. Can I self-identify? On the other hand, I remember being an 80s kid quite well so that might disqualify me.
Did you manage to overhear their opinions of Christmas?
The one subject they didn’t seem to touch on.
They couldn’t stand cycling - any kind of cycling. Didn’t mention it earlier because exposure to that seems a common experience. They are big proponents of road tax for bikes and registration plates. Also they hate ‘snowflakes’.
OP, how old are you?
46, 47 next month, DaveyBoyWonder.
I came in here hoping to see a link to a Dredd inspired MIPS gnar lid. I am disappointed.
Couger wins the 90s pop culture reference du jour
MAJ is the new MIPS
I did wonder why it wasn't in the Bike forum
Couger wins the 90s pop culture reference du jour
I do hate to see such things go to waste.
They are big proponents of road tax
Why does this myth still persist? Road tax likely hasn't existed in their parents' lifetimes let alone their own.
@MrSparkle, I just snorted a large bogey out of my Gen X nose because of you 🙂
You're welcome!
It’s always amusing when Millennials are being referred to. By most definitions, they are mostly in their 30’s yet the people using it as an insult think they’re referring to people in their teens and early 20’s
Argh yes there are a few words that all seem to have been conflated into general purpose perjoratives. Are you 21, living in a shared house in Peckham and working behind a bar for minimum wage? You entitled hipster millienial middle-class avocado botherer!
(Millenial / Gen X crossover here. I identify far more with Millenials than Gen X though. I fear the term is 'geriatric millenials' (sigh))
I've been in a coffee shop for a couple of hours. I've seen:
- A couple of foreign blokes clearly good friends discussing something happily
- About four or five separate sets of what appears to be young people and their grandparents meeting for coffee
- A couple of young families with the cutest babies
- Several sets of mothers coming for an after school treat with their kids who are really happy about it and enjoying the experience (and being well-behaved)
- A mature pair of sisters (they must be) also apparently foreign enjoying a coffee
It's not all bad.
Why does this myth still persist? Road tax likely hasn’t existed in their parents’ lifetimes let alone their own.
Why do you think? Because the name stuck and no-one really cares if it's called VED or Road Tax or RFL it's still the same basic idea.
My favourite kind of coffee shop visit! Most of the time it’s like this - and you get a little lift from others.
Yeah that's pretty much why I am here 🙂
Are they premier members on here? I bet they would fit right in.
As a Premier member I resent that! They represent everything I despise, frankly.
In any case, I don’t listen in on others conversations in coffee shops and cafes, mainly because my hearing struggles with voices in places with background noise, and usually I’ve got earphones in which block all background noise anyway, and I’ve normally got my nose stuck in a book.
Others can then happily carry on talking about whatever they want.
I used to work with a (middle aged) bloke who hated pretty much everybody and everything, he was from Sunderland and hated people from; Newcastle, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, London, (and any southerners in general) Scousers, Brummies, the French ( especially the French) the rest of Europe, Americans, any ethnic minority etc etc, anybody who did the great north run who ran it in less than two hours, he was a keen roadie who had a hardtail mtb, but wasn’t keen on mountain bikers.
Also thought had Hitler successfully invaded GB we would have been ok, if not a bit better. Unsurprisingly very keen on Brexit and thought the Daily Mail should be running the country!
I'm a geriatric millennial.
Cornerstone of the economy and industry I'll have you know.
I'm 39... and a bit.
I've just crashed awkwardly into my 40's and can feel the miserable old git impulse starting to call to me.
Trying very hard not to fall into that trap, it wasn't always better in the old days, the young 'uns don't have it any easier than we did and if the current crop of kids liked the same kind of music we did 25 years ago then something would have gone badly wrong.
.... and breath
Don't get me started on 'mumble-rap' though!
I thought being a MAJH was one of the STW membership conditions, just after not talking about some optional browser features, not linking porn and not posting paging threads.
I’ve arrived at my early 60s, surprisingly unscathed and still riding a variety of bicycles.
I may dislike cucumber and most seafood.
I don’t particularly hate anyone except thieves and violent people.
I hate British Gas, too, but my phone keypad and predictive text are all too annoying to tell you why and by how much.
That’s about it.
and usually I’ve got earphones in which block all background noise anyway, and I’ve normally got my nose stuck in a book.
Oh. You're one of those...
😁
Since changing jobs I've met many more lovely people than idiots. In fact the ratio is around 70:1 Most people are great.
My Millenial son is currently cooking tea/dinner (delete as your geography demands) and there's some rather good tunes and singing coming from the kitchen. Another nice to hear thing.
Why do you think? Because the name stuck and no-one really cares if it’s called VED or Road Tax or RFL it’s still the same basic idea.
Good point. Except it's not the same basic idea.
‘geriatric millenials’
*waves*
Good point. Except it’s not the same basic idea.
Precisely.
The name is irrelevant, you could call it a bacon sandwich for the difference it makes. The "myth" is that road tax / VED / bacon sandwiches pays for upkeep of the highways, so drivers perceive cyclists to be using the roads for free that they think they are paying for and get indignant about it. It breeds resentment.
Even if that weren't the case it's still a moronic argument. Just because I'm on a bike right now, how do they know how many taxed cars I have at home? I could be Jay Leno for all they know.
I think grandpa Simpson covered this a long time:
"I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what’s 'it' seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!"
Since changing jobs I’ve met many more lovely people than idiots.
Most of the idiots I work with are lovely. The two traits are not incompatible.
Good point. Except it’s not the same basic idea.
It is, to the general public who couldn't give a toss about ringfencing of funds and how taxation is apportioned. You have to pay a fee to use your car on the road, they call it road tax. End of. Your quibbling is irrelevant to the majority.
Now, their argument is of course rubbish as we're all legal road users regardless. But the deeper point is that people are fundamentally pretty irrational, especially when they are annoyed. They will say absolutely anything, regardless of the sense it makes. So pointing out that it's not technically road tax is 100% futile.
Your quibbling is irrelevant to the majority.
If it was irrelevant, they wouldn't be using it as an argument.
However you slice it, they think cyclists are stealing something they have to pay for and that makes them cross.
So pointing out that it’s not technically road tax is 100% futile.
This much is true. You can't educate cheese.
A better counter-argument IMHO is "yes I do." I pay 'road tax' on my car, I'm just not in it right now.
I preferred their second album
So pointing out that it’s not technically road tax is 100% futile.
Facts don't change opinions when those opinions are emotive.
So let’s not call out racists because they simply won’t listen
Im an avid conversation overhearer its one of my many pleasures. I always have a little chuckle to myself when I recall a particular conversations.