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Lots series 1 Elise are running around over 20yrs without any issue of chassis coming unglued. Never heard of this on the Lotus forums.
Caterham’s are lots of fun but with a hard top and reasonably road biased tyres an Elise can be a good year round mid life crisis car. The supercharged ones are pretty quick too.
Mx5 modified or not is the more sensible mid life crisis car.
The Audi saloon seems life a bit of a mainstream choice.
Thing is, you can't use any super fast car. Roads are shit. Had my best fun in an Alfa 147 Selespeed, bloody handled on rails, wasn't that fast, but stuck to the road. Great sound system. Thank god it was a company car though.. in the dealers all the time.
I still itch for Alfa, I'd love a 3.2 Berera - lovely car... but having driven a boring Nissan for the 17 years after the Alfa, I'd not like the problems - the Nissan is a people and bike transporter (a saloon car) and just works.
For me it would be an RS6 Estate (avant for the Audi snobs). Bloke I knew many years ago had TVR's etc. Girlfriend had Golfs.. Ping, they got married... Anyway, he got an RS4 Avant at the time - we did joke the kids would have a funny looking face due to the G-force... I'd still have one.
My mate's normal A4 Saloon TDi with 190 (and 4 trail bikes on the roof) is farking quick.... god knows what the RS4's are like.
While I’d love a 2 seat mid life crisis car I’m sadly too practical and just keep in thinking ‘God I’d never use it’ as with 2 young kids I rarely have the time to drive it and that would annoy me.
Swapped out my previous one of a 3 door S3 as it was just too small for 2 kids and 2 dogs for a sensible 340i Touring Did toy with the M5 estate but got scared by the cost of a new V10 if it blew!
Fast German barges don’t really class as mid life crisis. Given how busy roads are and needing a driving licence for work I reckon it’s all about the sound now before EV takes over which is why I really fancy a V8, but with 4 usable seats and rhd. Mustang is an option but keep looking Italian.
Brera v6 3.2 pro drive
Another classic rising in value... but you have to avoid the chav’d slammed ruined ones (that are pretty much worthless) buy a boggo OEM variants.
E46M either the cab or coupe.
(I did own one, for a very very short period)
I really fancy a V8, but with 4 usable seats and rhd.
You've just described the Audi RS5 I opened the thread with 😂
Yes but it’s not a mid life crisis car. Lots of people who know or care nothing about cars can’t tell it apart from a boggo diesel version. Inside it’s not really any different to a standard model either. Great car, lovely to drive and own and probably sounds great but lacks ‘theatre’ or ‘total lack of practically’ which are key components of a mid life crisis car.
I’ve no idea what they’d cost, but I do like the look of the Autofarm 996. They do things to the engine and chassis. The owner’s is speed yellow. It looks fantastic.
The 996 isn’t the best looking 911, especially the interior, but it is small and light compared to the newer ones and the ones that look good, really do (to my eye)
Re the monaro, it probably doesn’t handle worse than an S5 and with a supercharger and noisy exhaust anyone anywhere would know exactly what stage of life you’re in.
For fast and four seats the S5 the op posted would fit the bill. A friend of mine has an RS4. The V8 one that was raved about when it was new. It is a great car. Loads of growl and transmission whine. He also has a speedster replica that he drives more often as it is more fun.
I’d love a midlife crisis car, but we stated a family instead. Now I’m understanding the appeal of a Toyota Sienna. Life can be strange.
For fast and four seats the S5 the op posted would fit the bill.
It's an RS5 - 4.2l V8, 0-60 in 4.5, 450bhp
A 4 seat Audi is really not a mid life crisis car, it needs to be loud and a little ostentatious. Preferably unreliable enough to make you want to sell it quite quickly, but have to keep it to make the point. Something like a Griffith, or a c5 Corvette.
A 'cheap' e60 m5 or e63 m6 fits the 'getting cheap to buy, but cripplingly expensive to run' criteria, but still very dad/grandad in most people's eyes.
There are so many fast dad cars being suggested on here, have some imagination!
Early Cayman easily in budget. Cracking drive as well.
R32 GTR, NSX. Both wise investments, the R32 even has back 'seats'....
25k will get you a 964 needing heaps of work. It'll cost you 2k per year most years once it's sorted, which seems like a lot but you'll feel absolutely alive every time you drive it. I LOVE mine. You can also fit a surprisingly large amount of stuff in them. And two children.
When I moved over here I drove my va for a while, but was always looking for what would have to replace it. I had considered, actually quite seriously, getting an Alfa 159 Sportback. Leaving aside the reputation for mechanical nightmares, they are a lovely car that is not too big and not too small, but which can also take dogs. I was partially swayed by the 159 Quadrfolia that is in our parking garage. It is mint and looks amazing.
Sadly, cooler heads prevailed and I bought a Passat when the van went to van heaven (RIP Jimmy the van, may your spare parts help other T5 in need) and I have less of a problem filling it with random DIY stuff than I would have done with an Alfa.
I still have the van itch though and my midlife crisis may well end up being a double cab T3 pickup. If I can find a Syncro one of those for sensible money, i may buy it just on spec.
Could someone clarify when exactly it's ok to have a mid-life crisis car? I'm quite keen to do this but fear I might be too early to justify it.
I actually did this, and bought a Cayman about 4 years ago.
Echo all the thoughts above about not really using it "enough", feeling a bit guilty about having 2 cars, impractical, can't really use it to even half its potential etc, but by god I love it when I do go out and it has, for me, the right balance between being silly enough to be a proper mid-life crisis car and not being outlandishly expensive to run...
I bought my 964 when I was 32, to avoid the inevitable mid life crisis 'jokes'.
Echo the Cayman comment above, too. A pal of mine, ten years older than me, bought himself a 2.7 987 Boxster this year. I had a wee shottie of it when we did a road trip to Czech and Austria in the summer and it was incredibly capable. More fun than folk would have you believe as well.
I'm going to prefix this with the fact that I had a very early midlife crisis combined with splitting up with my partner and going contracting - all at the same time. Hence the list of cars I probably shouldn't have bought..
V10 M6 - it spun a shell and locked the engine up bending the crank and various rods within 200 miles of buying it and just after a new clutch and flywheel. In 3 years I did less than 500 miles in it and it cost me in the region of £20k to put it right. And this was a low mile, one owner car - not some knacker. I wouldn't go near a V10 again and I certainly wouldn't buy a cheap one.
I also had a B7 RS4 which was....Ok...not crazy fast but brilliant on track. However for the money it cost to run and the compromise around having big seats (so you couldn't fit anyone in the back) and coking up issues that regularly needed sorting, I'd not have another one. Was eventually stolen which I believe most are. I think this shares the same engine as the one in the OP's first post - the engine is good but it doesn't have the shove of a turbo car. Also liked to understeer on track but that won't be a concern on the road.
335d - fast and boring. Rubbish on track, dreadful gearbox. Mental in a straight line. not a midlife crisis car.
135i - currently still have this, but it's quite highly modified now (running around 480bhp) and to be honest I've ruined it. Probably the most practical (when standard) and just a decent little car but not a midlife crisis car (I can never tell if one coming towards me is a 135/140 or a 116d - and I own one!).
Most fun cars I had were either a Cayman S or a 350z. The Cayman's handling was amazing, literally the best handling car I've driven including my other halfs 911 4s. Could have done with a bit more poke but then that would have probably upset the handling. The 350z was a late one before they brought out the 370z. Didn't handle as well as the Cayman but was so much fun - lazy engine, LSD for skids and looked mint. Utterly impractical - if I had to go away on business I'd have to unpack my case in the boot, fold the case up then repack it once I got to the airport - but so so much fun. They're a bit old now so I'd be looking at a 370z with the manual box.
TL:DR - Cayman S or 370z
The correct answer is a motorcycle of course. This was/is the centre piece of my MLC. In all seriousness the process has been very rewarding, filling a life long ambition, and giving a new respect for learning a bit more roadcraft. Also you don't need to strap yourself to a missile to have fun.
If I was to go for a car if probably prefer to sink the cash into bringing something back to life even if I wasn't doing it myself, there is a rather lovely black stacked headlight Merc on eBay that needs some TLC. Perfect 👌
Not a mid life crisis but a V8 story. Disco (3 or 4, not sure which one) was in front of my at a junction while I was cycling, pair of twin pipes at the back. Hoofed it off trying to make a gap, lovely V8 burble coming from that. Much better than a diesel job
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^This. Which is why, despite them being neither particularly powerful, or fast, a Morgan 3-wheeler is right up there on my list of "want".
More nowadays than every unless you want to spend your mid life crisis on a race track (which is a whole other can of gammon) having something that is very fun at very legal speeds makes terrific sense.
Could someone clarify when exactly it’s ok to have a mid-life crisis car? I’m quite keen to do this but fear I might be too early to justify it.
Would need to be before 40 and only really counts if you haven't had those sorts of cars. If you spent 20 years driving a Golf, Focus etc,. then suddenly buy a Ferrari when you hit 50 then that is a sign.
Whereas if you drove Porsches, Caterhams and the like from age 20 onwards you can't really have an obvious mid life crisis car. That sort of person (me) would have to get a motorbike for the first time in their life. I haven't done that yet so can confirm no mid life crisis here (also no hankering for tattoos, loud shirts, piercings etc,.)
For a 25K saloon Id have an E90 M3
Much better v8 than the audi Donk
Much better drive too
My current recurring autotrader browsing is Elise's,VX220s and i3s.
No help at all OP
What about a Merc AMG 55 SLK?
eBay has about 20 of them all under £15k FSH and under 70k on the clock... That leaves you change for the fuel..
IIRC the BBB organiser chappie has one.. ask him for some advice.
Not considered an Alpina? Quite a few nice looking ones on Pistonheads that fit the budget and a lot more unique than an Audi.
Another one going through the menoporsche - 986 Boxster here. For my budget I could afford a ‘good’ 986 or a bottom of the market 996, so went with the one that I hoped would be less likely to break me financially.
When it’s working right, it’s a lovely thing. Interactive (which is massively important), fast enough to get you into trouble, but not effortlessly so. Lightly tweaked exhaust so it sounds nice when pushed, but not offensive when pootling. Soft top has added another dimension to the experience - hearing the wind in the trees and being VERY aware when you’re passing a field full of cows.
But no 2 ways about it, running an old sports car is financially draining. I do most of the work on it myself, so save most of the labour, but I still need to shell out big lumps of cash at random intervals. I spent a chunk of today lying under it in a french car park patching up the hole that had just appeared in one of the cats. That will be between £200 and £1200 when I get back to the uk and decide how best to do the job something approximating “properly”. And after 100k miles the dampers are shagged, so that’s a BIG bill looming.
…but 4 seater MLC car? 911 or a Maser. Or what about a Ferrari 400 for a truly brave option? They were as cheap as they get pretty recently. Audi(unless an R8) really doesn’t count.
A few nice Jag Xkr 5.0 supercharged ones for that price.
My Dad actually did this a few weeks ago. He'd been putting a bit of money aside, and then found the right one...
13 plate XKR, nice spec (without being the garish Sport version with horrendous Bumpers) and original purchase price of over £95k! Just 17k miles on the clock, 2 owners, full main dealer history, not a mark on it... Just £25k on the nose!
Thing is, it's the car he's always wanted, but he's 65 now. He had a couple of E39 M5's in his late 40's when his reactions were still good and fuel was under £1 a litre. He won't admit that his reactions aren't what they were, but he has said the car is not only too quick but actually scary and difficult to use the performance on the road! As someone who owns several fast motorbikes, I do find that quite funny, but then when I think of cars I've owned/driven that have been the most fun, and normally they're not the most powerful ones. In fact, my most fun car I've owned was an early E85 Z4 3.0i sport, perfect balance of chassis and engine, not too much or too little of either...
Anyway... Cars... Meh! Motorbikes are sooooooooo much more fun!
Just thought of a suitable motor - Challenger Hellcat, 6.2 litres of supercharged hemi hooliganism, 6-700hp readily available.
Mustang GT all the way for me. i’m Starting to to see some 16 plate examples around £22-23k with reasonable mileage; insurance i’ve been quoted is less than i’m paying on my current BMW X3. Ok that’s with a low annual mileage, but I wouldn’t be doing 20k miles a year in a 5.0 V8 car that does about 20mpg
Example: https://www.haques.co.uk/used-cars/ford-mustang-5-0-v8-gt-fastback-2dr-bradford-201908181282708
I have always fancied an XK-R to be honest
Not sure about Mustangs, my mate has one
johndrummer - that one is Cat S, wouldn't touch it with a barge pole
£30k might get you one of the first Noble M12's.
They still look amazing even though they're about 17 years old. Seem to be steadily going up in price like just about anything else that was a bit of fun.
Just read the original post and I seem to have blown the budget by ten grand.
Nice cars though.
As per mboys post, all of these cars are so ludicrously fast, you can’t use them on our roads. I always wanted an RS4, but swapped it for an S5 after18 months cos I was always worrying about the 20 inch wheels and never getting close to using the power available. Just felt like a waste!
The S5 is quick, but great delivery and very smooth, so you can Potter around knowing it’s there if you need it.
johndrummer – that one is Cat S, wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole
You’re right, I hadn’t noticed that before. Turns out all seven Mustangs at that dealer are Cat-S
Aren’t Cat -S cars just minor damaged repaired .. bumpers, headlights or doors replaced etc.?
Aren’t Cat -S cars just minor damaged repaired .. bumpers, headlights or doors replaced etc.?
When I googled it, it said structural damage such as twisted chassis
What do you want it to do?!
- go fast in a straight line?
- go fast around corners?
- both?
- fit 4 people in?
- have a good boot?
- all of the above?
I bought a Cayman 2.9. Doesn't do all the above (2 seater) but love it, quick enough in a straight line, nice and revvy, corners on rails, 35mpg on the motorway, 2 boots = loads of luggage space, and the bikes go on top with a RockBros suction cup rack!
Insurance was cheap, £450 (and I'm 27).
I've always wanted an elise. When I have enough to buy a car purely for fun I'll get one!
Would love a Maserati GT for the looks and noise.
If your budget could go up a bit then the Nissan GTR is mind blowingly fast, sounds amazing and fits 4!
RS4/5/6 are all lovely. As is a C63 AMG... and the older ones sound like a thunder storm!
I would love a faster car but realistically theres nowhere you can use the speed unless you're on track. Having the cayman and having driven a bunch of faster cars (DB9, GALLARDO, F430, Atom, GTR) I'd get something with less power than the supercars but more usable, else I'd lose my license very quickly. I'm breaking most speed limits by the time I'm out of 2nd in the Porsche.
Flange does a good write up above. I've got a 135i which is a great little car - 8sp auto, 4.9 0-60 but 40mpg on motorway runs. Not a midlife crisis car though, too practical.
A mid-life crisis is supposed to be where you start acting like a teenager or at least like someone young. So you need a small hatchback which you can load up with your mates and go out being irresponsible, not an expensive "bahnstormer" to drive on your own like other people of your age who've managed to save up a bit having reached middle-age/management.
Just thought of a suitable motor – Challenger Hellcat, 6.2 litres of supercharged hemi hooliganism, 6-700hp readily available.
There's one for sale in a dealer near my place. Its a insanely, serious looking, very noisy mota.
What do you want it to do?!
– go fast in a straight line?
– go fast around corners?
– both?
– fit 4 people in?
– have a good boot?
– all of the above?
Pick up mine in 8 weeks or so. Seat Leon Cupra ST 300 4drive. Not exactly a MLC Car but it’s the best I can do for now!
A buddy drives a Challenger SRT. Reckons it’s 600+ bhp. Now that Is a pukka MLC car!!
I bought an Elise a few years ago. After 06 they're fitted with Toyota engines, mine was the 111R with the 190hp motor. Good for 0-60 in 4.5 seconds with superb handling and I think they look fantastic.
Cheap to run, you pay Toyota service costs even at the Lotus dealer. Cheap to insure, fully comp for me was £200. Fuel consumption was around 40mpg, could go a lot lower depending on how it's driven. I used it year round, commuted, toured, went to the shops, etc.
The downsides, it liked rear tyres, I didn't bother with the recommended Lotus fitment, went with Toyo Proxes. There's a definite knack to getting in and out but it's quick to get the hang of. I'm 6'1" and about the height limit.
OK, we've established it's not a MLC car and most folk on here would have something different, but I pick one up on Friday anyway.
The V8 is unreal - revs to 8250, Lamborghini derived, same engine as in the R8. It's a lot of fun
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Very nice indeed ..enjoy !
Enjoy!
Ahh, an A5... very Old Man Crisis.
Enjoy!
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I am nearly 50 bikebouy 🙄 😂
That's very nice.
I am nearly 50 bikebouy 🙄 😂
No need to apologise.. we're all pretty much the same age on here.
Looks like a hoot, will you open an account at BlackCircles at the same time as picking it up?
I would.
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18mpg... i reckon. G'wan, tell us when you get it after a week of hooning around in it..
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18mpg… i reckon. G’wan, tell us when you get it after a week of hooning around in it..
My mates got a pre-facelift and he reckons about 16 😂 it's a weekend toy tbf, won't be doing too many miles
I used to have an ee92 bmw m3, with the 4 litre v8, that managed 19mpg average , going up to 25mpg on the motorway if you kept it steady at around 65mph.
Love it !
The A5 is in my view the prettiest car that Audi make - very nice. I've never owned a V8 and probably never will now.
Not really my view of a "mid life crisis" car but I'm sure it will still be OK to drive.
That's lush, and there are few cars with the combination of V8 (mmmm), manual (obvs), AWD (for winter, innit) and such a lovely interior. Enjoy!
It may not be the first thing you think of, btw, but if you find the gearshift a bit rubbery, there are some good short-shift kits out there that make it a much nicer shift - you can fit it yourself in a couple of hours.
Ain't no manual nicko 🙄
7 speed S-tronic
Suits me, don't want manual
Ooooh! That looks great... Enjoy!
The 7 speed S-tronic box is fantastic ..you won't notice the gear changes ..and if you want to go manual you can with either flappy paddle or move the gear shift over ..
Tbh ..I rarely use either ..no need !
18mpg… i reckon. G’wan, tell us when you get it after a week of hooning around in it..
More like 14 😂😭
Chatsworth, Christmas Day morning (phone pic)
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Anyone thinks that it's just a glorified rep mobile wants to think again. The sound and grunt of that V8 all the way up to the rev limiter at 8250 is something else. The endless grip (who wants to be going sideways on public roads?) just makes you push it and push it.
It can also be a sedate luxury car too at the push of a button - Bang and Olufsen sounds, Google earth sat nav, auto everything.
Highly regarded as one of the best engines of it's time. Watch this video, not so much for the driving, but what the guy driving has to say about it
God that bloke is boring!
Love the noise but he did state an after,Ariel exhaust system. I’d love to hear the <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">original noise. Sitting in a car with a “rumble” is one of my favourite things, something very much missing from my 320d 🙁</span>
Okay, cayman owners - any of you tall? I am 6ft 2ins...and not very long legged but they appear quite cramped with the seat right back. What are they like to live with in the real world?
Sitting in a car with a “rumble” is one of my favourite things, something very much missing from my 320d
Mine doesn't sound much different to that with the valves open to be honest. With them closed, you can hardly hear it.
It's not got the deep rumble of a Mustang, but my mate has a Mustang and the Audi is a much better car. The Audi is more high pitched, F1 esque. A lot of the aftermarket exhausts sound bloody awful
Sitting in a car with a “rumble” is one of my favourite things
Agreed, and the opportunities to do so are disappearing year on year
Agreed - I've had Flat 4, V5, Flat 6, Straight 6 and V6 cars, but never a V8.
Most of me says 'don't be daft', but there is a little Mrs Doyle sat on my shoulder saying 'Ahhh go on, go on, go on'. Certainly not going to be many chances left.
Agreed – I’ve had Flat 4, V5, Flat 6, Straight 6 and V6 cars, but never a V8.
Most of me says ‘don’t be daft’, but there is a little Mrs Doyle sat on my shoulder saying ‘Ahhh go on, go on, go on’. Certainly not going to be many chances left.
I needed the Mrs Doyle voice to convince me but finally 'went on' and bought a V8 12 months ago. Don't regret it. Strong chance it'll be the only V8 I'll ever get the chance to own. Just lucky enough that circumstances allowed it. Plan to keep it as long as I possibly can.
I've had 3 v8's, one of them with a flat plane crank, one a chevy small block, the other a bmw v8.
The chevy small block sounded best, but was the least powerful.
I've also had Two straight sixes, various straight 4's, and a straight 5.
It's one of the reasons I wanted the Audi. There are faster, and/or more involving cars out there, but always fancied one (it's pretty, fierce and understated to look at, at the same time) and had to have a n/a V8 before they are gone. Only a few of this ilk to choose from - Mustang, M3, C63 etc. The beauty of this one is the high revving nature, it's almost exotic. Of course there's a trade off, with low end grunt being sacrificed, but even then, it's no slouch and it took no time at all to learn to keep it above 4k rpm when driving spiritedly
Audi do make some very pretty cars. Mercedes, and to a lesser extent BMW, seem to have caught the Japanese habit of poking sharpened pencils in their designers' eyes. It ain't hard to make a good looking big car. Why is it that only Alfa and Audi can do it with the more every day cars?
You sound just like me when I bought my 2014 RS4 in 2015. I had always wanted one and as I had the money, thought ‘why not’!
Unfortunately, I found the whole experience disappointing, but not for obvious reasons. It was basically too fast to enjoy. I’d get to a clear stretch of road and put my foot down and within a few secs, was doing 90mph. Too fast, so had to back off or risk getting nicked or killing someone. I wouldn’t take on a track, so came to the conclusion that I’d sell it after only 15months, the shortest time I e ever owned a car.
I bought an S5 convertible, which although fast , can be enjoyed at low speeds and you’re not looking at being banned every time you put your foot down.
Don’t mean to put you off and hope you enjoy it! 😉
I have had a v5 and a number of straight sixes. Always wanted a V8 and was beginning to think it would never happen, so I used some inheritance to keep my e91 330i and buy a V8. End of September I bought a 96 TVR Chimaera 4.0 and it is gloriously looking, sounding and driving. I love the simplicity and by far the most sensible way to get a V8 in my life, I thought. It will take some money to keep it going, but I don't think it will lose much value at all now, being 23 years old.
It certainly goes if you want it to, but it is incredibly enjoyable just being driven normally 🙂
Unfortunately, I found the whole experience disappointing, but not for obvious reasons. It was basically too fast to enjoy. I’d get to a clear stretch of road and put my foot down and within a few secs, was doing 90mph. Too fast, so had to back off or risk getting nicked or killing someone. I wouldn’t take on a track, so came to the conclusion that I’d sell it after only 15months, the shortest time I e ever owned a car.
I've had it about 7 weeks now. Not finding it 'too fast' particularly. I live on the edge of the Peak, so have some lovely roads. Managed to get a run from Soarrowpit to the top of Winnats Pass with no traffic the other day, it was wonderful 😊
What I won't do, as opposed to when I was a young lad, is take blind crests, or corners at breakneck speeds. If I can read the road, I'll open it up. Getting plenty of grins from me 😊
Did you consider the Jaguar XFR at all. Same sort of thing to the Audi but 510 bhp
If I can read the road, I’ll open it up
If you can read, you’ll see the sign says 60mph and above that is breaking the law..
Did you consider the Jaguar XFR at all. Same sort of thing to the Audi but 510 bhp
No, I didn't consider one (thought they were amazing when they first came out though). 1, they aren't normally aspirated (supercharged) and 2. Just seems a bit of an old man's car - yes, I know some would say the Audi is too. Did consider an XKR for about 5 minutes though
If you can read, you’ll see the sign says 60mph and above that is breaking the law.
Ok, thanks.
Great car, but anyone reminded of this? 🙂
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/audi-s3-quite-fast/
Bmw 130i.... Fairly practical. Can be had for £5000 and the 6 cylinder sound is lovely...... Or a retro Lotus Carlton 😏
Or a retro Lotus Carlton 😏
Seen the prices of those? Yikes. (or does the smilie mean you've got one - if so then JEALOUS)
Coincidentally, before buying my Monaro the others on my shortlist are mentioned above: S5 or a Jaaaaaaag XFR. Needed 4 proper seats, wanted V8 - that was about it for the criteria. Chevvy V8 won me over though - simple and fun, so a good match for me 🙂
a11y
Alas no always wanted one.... But I do have the 130i so it's OK 😂👍