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”come in and have a chat on Monday and we can go through the role in more detail”
Does that mean wear a suit? (job is in recruitment)
Bearing in mind I’ve already had a chat with the potential new boss on the phone, and this is a chat rather than an interview.
My view is go fo suit and tie as a failsafe, the wife thinks smart trousers, shirt, jumper and no tie. WWSTWD?
For context I currently work in the bike industry and will be wearing shorts and t-shirt all week next week, this is going to be a big change for me!
If in doubt, suit and boot.
Suit. Thread closed.
What would you advise a client to do?
Suit.
Your best band t shirt.
I work in recruitment and whilst my gut instinct is suit I reckon you’d be fine in shirt and trousers as well. If I’d have asked someone to come in for a chat I’d not be overly fussed if they weren’t in a suit.
Binners wins, assuming I can get that outfit on amazon prime for delivery pre 10am tomorrow.
Glad my instincts are better than my wife’s on this one!
Lunge- anything in particular I should be hot on? Got a good handle on the company I think, and the process they use.
I would go grey suit, with brown shoes (maybe brogue details on a Derby - match belt to shoes, always) A definite colour on the tie (colour depends on shirt - a blue or pink shirt and I would tone down the tie). Don't discount what your wife says though, industry knowledge is key and mostly women have a better dress sense.
Board shorts, flip flops and a very faded t-shirt.
Failing that, you could try a suit with shirt and tie?
I worked in recruitment for 10 years and then became Head of Internal Recruitment for an actual recruitment company so I should probably chip in...
What sector is it in, as this does make a difference. Also, is it a big multi office company or a smaller independent?
Is this for an agency or in-house? If the former do you really want to do this to yourself? You will be a lesser person for the experience. They were only put on this earth to make estate agents look good. First against the wall come the revolution etc.
No, seriously don't do it. You will either hate everyone around you and their vicious, back-biting, lying, self serving ways; hate the work and what you have to do to keep a job or you will loose all your self respect and become one of them.
1) Agency, because 2) no, I work in the bike industry and one day I need to get a grown up job so I can pay the mortgage and buy a new bike in the same decade.
sector is distribution and logistics for what it’s worth.
Things to be hot on?
Why you want to work in recruitment.
Sales skills, what have you done, what were the outcomes?
Drive and determination, what have you done against adversity, what do you do when your up against it?
Comoany wise, who are their competitors? What kind of jobs do they have advertised on their website?
Id also be asking about what their KPI’s are, what are their expectations of you for the first 6 months, what success looks like to them, what the consequences are if you don’t hit said targets.
Hope that helps, if you need anything else feel free to drop me a message.
>Board shorts, flip flops and a very faded t-shirt.
That's my summer work attire...
Dress for the job you really want
Or suit no tie, it's the easy and default answer for good reason
For supply chain, distribution and logistics I'd go for a good suit, white shirt, no tie or boot/brogues, smart trousers, shirt and jumper for this kind of meeting.
Word of warning, if you don't have decent smart clobber then just default to suit and tie. Also, if the company/office is a bit rough around the edges and by "logistics" you mean drivers and pickers/packers rather than Site Managers, then I'd probably go for a tie as well.
No, seriously don’t do it.
Some people aren't cut out for it. 80%+ of people bomb out of recruitment in the first 18 months, but it's hard to find a job with no qualifications necessary that can pay you £35k+ in year one and £50k+ year two onwards. There's a reason that most people can't, or don't want to handle it.
You will either hate everyone around you and their vicious, back-biting, lying, self serving ways
Aaah, the classic recruitment company hating candidate. There's a reason you don't get the service you want from the recruiters you want...
I would go grey suit, with brown shoes (maybe brogue details on a Derby – match belt to shoes, always) A definite colour on the tie (colour depends on shirt – a blue or pink shirt and I would tone down the tie).
That makes it sound like you have a choice of suits and shoes ready to go bsims. Blimey.
Thanks for the helpful tips all, and the laughs as always!
"It depends".
Some of trendy freelance app developer types may meet up in a coffee shop for a chat and a suit can be OTT. Smart casual may be fine.
I've dressed down where I know the person and it really is an informal chat away from the office. Showing up at an office I may go with a suit, although with a few rare occasions where the place is smart, I always feel way over dressed.
I try to be smart though. If I can avoid the stupidity of a tie I will (what is the point of a tie? I'm with Richard Branson there).
That makes it sound like you have a choice of suits and shoes ready to go bsims. Blimey.
The height of sartorial elegance!
Cravats are where its at. Our Chairman always wears one...
Aaah, the classic recruitment company hating candidate. There’s a reason you don’t get the service you want from the recruiters you want…
Sadly a miss with your guess.
Full disclosure……my wife is/was in HR. HR business partner but had had enough of the generalist side of things and wanted to move to a specialist recruitment role. Ditched her job and worked for an agency for 11 months effectively to see the industry from the other side. Never intended to stay in agency, merely to get some first hand experience and what they get up to to make her better at an in-house job. Now safely back in house in a BP role but in a recruitment position with her team dealing with circa 40 agencies weekly. My thoughts on agencies is mainly based on her stories of working inside the industry, what she was asked to do and what she saw others doing. Also on her dealings with agencies working back on the other side. Oh, and me meeting the oh so special specimens at works socials I got dragged to. I don't know how she handled being surrounded by such a bunch of turds for so long.
No, seriously don’t do it. You will either hate everyone around you and their vicious, back-biting, lying, self serving ways; hate the work and what you have to do to keep a job or you will loose all your self respect and become one of them.
your wife must have worked for a pretty crap agency to leave you with that impression. There’s no question that there are some dodgy characters and dodgy companies out there, just like every other industry really. But, there are also some brilliant companies that look after candidates, clients and their employees. I know this as I’ve been in the industry or 15 years and am currently a director at one such company.
It can be a tough industry, the first 6 months are really hard if you do it properly, but get through that an you’ll have a rewarding and well paid job. Get the right company and the right industry and it can also be great fun.
Serious offer OP, if you want some advice from a recruitment veteran then drop me a DM, I’d be more than happy to have a chat and give the good and bad of the industry.
Better to be overdressed than underdressed.
I think you could omit the tie, but smart shoes trousers and shirt. Too warm for a jumper may be.
Or, dressing gown and slippers, with no underpants is a strong look, shows confidence.
