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Who’s seen it? Was quite a surprise…
Just Wow ! We were looking for Prince Andrew (the actual one) last time there - but to no avail. I promised my Dad I would greet him appropriately if we met ....
Ahhh gutted for a minute there I thought I was going to be on the same video as King Charles as McTrailRider went past me at Cairn Gorm the other week.
Yeah, watched it earlier
"That was a King" 🙂
WOW
4:20
Nice chap
Yep, saw it earlier. Happy to see that Charlie was a pleasant character but shocked to see Andrew call him Sir 🙂 Shirley it is "Your Royal Highness!", or else it is off to the Tower!
Obsequious much?
Or more charitably... just a bit star struck perhaps?
Thought that was quite cool, particularly that Charles was just out walking on his own in the rain and midge for the love of it
Obsequious much?
Really? Not just taken aback, maybe not exactly sure how to behave and erring on the side of deference?
Should he have just whapped his balls in Charlie's mouth and made him hum A Man's a Man for a' That?
Give the guy a break.
Star struck, bloody hell it's the king, hard not to be polite with an old man and one who's so good at small talk. He's made some quips about the queen before if you find his previous Lochnagar and Balmoral videos.
Thats Ace. Not particularly a royalist but I happen to think Charlie is a top fella.
I wouldn't have a clue what to call him if I had suddenly stumbled across the King on the trail, Give them a break ffs.
It was a pleasant interaction handled well.
Ok. I lazily replied to Scotroutes post rather than properly expressing myself...
I was struck by how impressed and awed McT was by the meeting. He said after that he's not much of a royalist ay all but clearly left with a big impression.
Charles was indeed quite ( very?) polite and affable, and was indeed walking down the track just like a human being. The whole interaction seemed very nice and positive.
What amazes me is how as a nation we see that as somehow amazing, rather than a reasonable expectation. Charles is raised up in our collective estimations just by acting like a normal human being should.
And McT ( and indeed me when I met him an Di,) come away feeling blessed and favoured by mere contact with them.
It shows how deeply ingrained the RF are into our psyche, even people who aren't in favour of the institution.
+ 1 for not a Monarchist but even I have to admit Charles came across really well there, just an amiable old boy out for a stroll in his happy place, no hint of awkwardness.
Much as I dislike the concept, the institution and some of the family (Andrew!!!) I find it hard to summon up much antipathy for Charles himself and this video has reinforced that impression.
It’s the ‘bloke on a walk’ angle. The full entourage / pomp think I’d be utterly indifferent to but meeting anyone famous out of context is completely different. I’d still puddle-bomb Boris Johnson and shout ‘****er’ though.
What amazes me is how as a nation we see that as somehow amazing, rather than a reasonable expectation. Charles is raised up in our collective estimations just by acting like a normal human being should.
I've gotta say meeting ANYBODY nice while out biking or walking can often be quite amazing considering the attitude of about 75% of the nation over the last few years. Lately I'm impressed by people doing something for others and not just themselves, I've come to expect them to not pee on me if I'm on fire considering the attitudes of most people when it came to mask wearing to protect/consider other people.
Obsequious much?
Seemed to me that they had a pleasant convo with him, I didn't detect much in the way of forelock tugging.
Hey, ask anyone who has ridden/walked/run with me in the hills and they'll confirm that I'm Chatty McChatface when meeting strangers. I don't call any of them sir though.
I don’t call any of them sir though.
Have you met charley-boy out on the hills yet though?
I’ve gotta say meeting ANYBODY nice while out biking or walking can often be quite amazing considering the attitude of about 75% of the nation over the last few years...
Weirdly I experience the complete opposite. Out in the hills the vast majority of people are friendly, chatty and helpful. Its the unpleasant ones who stand out.
Never met a King though to be fair
I don’t call any of them sir though.
Obsequious means servile to an excessive degree. I think you may be being melodramatic if you think a person calling Charlie "sir" meets that definition.
It's all very nice saying Charlie's a nice old boy and indeed he is to meet.
But he still retains veto over laws made in the UK and the police aren't allowed to enter grounds he owns without his permission. (Aside from the fact that no inheritance tax is paid by them, ever, and they extract wealth from "public" property (like 25% of the proceeds of sale of land for offshore windfarms goes into "his pocket").
Just think about that for a bit. I'd be nicer if life was cushy and I retained multiple legally-protected advantages above everyone in the UK.
I've always found Charlie to be a civilsed and straightforward individual when meeting him in the hills. One example I can relate is on a November, lightly snowy day up near Bachnagairn, while riding the classic Capel Mounth circuit with a buddy. Charlie was coming south as we were heading north, shortly before we reached the horse shelter at the top. He was dressed for winter stalking, with a stalker alongside and unusually, plus one squaddie in civvies.
Chatty, friendly and asking sensible questions about hydraulic brakes. Important for me though, was realising that while he had company on what was going to be a properly long hike, he was carrying both his own kit bag and rifle, clearly a choice.
I've not seen McT's video yet but suspect he has had a similar, respectful encounter in both directions. Happy days.
Just think about that for a bit
y'know, I'm fine. My life's pretty cool, and TBH if thinking about this extraneous stuff that I've no control over makes me as bitter and stagnant as it clearly does you, I'll pass thanks
Do you think there was a sniper for each of them or just one between three?
But he still retains veto over laws made in the UK
Whilst I agree that this is a ridiculous and unjustifiable constitutional throwback, Liz and Charlie seemed to have long since realized that should they ever actually try and exercise this power they'd be out on their arse fairly quickly.
This obviously doesn't preclude one of their more dimwitted offspring stepping on that particular landmine down the road but I struggle to think of many things that would make us a republic faster than the monarch deciding to actually use their veto, or even threaten to.
Our system of government is basically a massive bodge that just about works and like all bodges that just about work, nobody really wants to mess with it in case it stops working altogether.
Seemed like a perfectly reasonable interaction. It's hard not to be happy for an old bloke out enjoying a wander, far from the utter, utter **** of the people he must have to deal with on a daily basis.
I say this as someone who detests the monarchy and the British upper crust as a group.
Trouble is, on an individual basis on a superficial level, they tend to be nice enough in my experience.
I cheered on the egg flingers when Charlie was on official duty, but if McTrail did it out on the hill it would be a touch odd.
As above though, Boris and his grasping ilk are a different story. He's fair game anywhere. Barefoot charity walk for poor orphans? Here, have a walking pole to the face ya prick.
"Sir" is OK, it's a show of respect that just makes the interaction go more pleasantly.
"Your Majesty" would probably be pushing it though.
At least he didn't tell them to get orf his land.
And moaning about the midgies appears to be a universal constant regardless of rank.
Whilst I agree that this is a ridiculous and unjustifiable constitutional throwback, Liz and Charlie seemed to have long since realized that should they ever actually try and exercise this power they’d be out on their arse fairly quickly.
This obviously doesn’t preclude one of their more dimwitted offspring stepping on that particular landmine down the road but I struggle to think of many things that would make us a republic faster than the monarch deciding to actually use their veto, or even threaten to.
They don't actually tell the public when they use their veto on laws. They get to pre approve and modify the bits that they don't like before we get to see them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
I was just scrolling through some of the You Tube comments when I noticed a certain JiveHoneyJive posting his typical conspiracy theory bollocks so it's not just STW that he infects...
Going out in the hills is about escapism from others things in life.
I think calling him Sir was absolutely fine and very respectful. They were on his land, they were staying in his house, he was a gentle older man they met walking out in the hills
In many friendly parts of the country people refer to others as Sir or Madam, especially to older folk as it shows respect.
People call my wife ‘Miss funkydunc’ even in a social setting as they respect her role and position. She actually would prefer it if they didn’t.
I agree with the above if had been on official duty then they could have questioned his politics etc, but still doesn’t mean you can’t show respect for someone
so it’s not just STW that he infects…
Conspiracy theorists have to tell everybody about it, otherwise how would other people know how clever they are?
I noticed a certain JiveHoneyJive
Did you not spot Jimmy Savile and various other members of the illuminati among the royal retainers further up the track?
Dangerous Dave Jenvey also makes an appearance in the comments
Thats Ace. Not particularly a royalist but I happen to think Charlie is a top fella.
Bishop Peter Ball agrees with you wholeheartedly. A true champion of democracy and basic human decency. A real gem of a King and a role model for us all. Hip hip hooray. 🤢 🤮
Looks like the video has been pulled. I wonder if he informed Charlie he was being filmed for a youtube channel?
There's obviously a market for a MTB helmet with a hinge on top so that the front can be flipped up to enable easier tugging of the forelock.
I think I would rather have a pie and a pint with HRH than many others on the Sunday Times rich list. I think his mum brought him up proper.
The video’s still there for me. I don’t see how it’s anything but a positive for the king and hope Andrew gains a few extra beer tokens off the back of it. He make’s good content.
The Telegraph (and presumably other media) has picked up on this. That should boost McTrailrider's views and subscribers. I hope it boosts his YT income, as said above he seems a decent bloke and makes better content than much of the dross on YT. As an aside, for non mtbers coming at this via this link, McTrailrider and his mates are good ambassadors for the sport.
Lol, the Telegraph version is edited somewhat more favorably!
That should boost McTrailrider’s views and subscribers. I hope it boosts his YT income
They could have linked to the full video
Lol, the Telegraph version is edited somewhat more favorably!
Ha, "I'm annoyed because I didn't want to care, but that was quite cool"
I got the impression from that video that the rather nice old bloke they met also disliked the monarchy and was quite happy to be out for a nice quiet walk.
Made it to the Daily Mail too
My mother has met Charlie a few times through work events, National Trust/English Heritage and so on, and once the cameras are off and the lackeys bugger off he's a fairly pleasant young man (according to my mum).
She's also massively anti monarchy to the degree of losing a few friends during the whole funeral/coronation fuss. Just because she really couldn't be bothered with it all. She's nearly 80 now, so doesn't much care.
I don’t call any of them sir though.
I get called sir on the rugby pitch and by the security guards at work. I don't think they are being obsequious.
Obvious they're not as cool as you though.
That was very cool. What a nice chap.
I believe that Charles and most of the Royal family are probably decent human beings. That video plus other stuff I've seen suggests I'm right about Charles at least.
The other stuff, veto on laws etc..., I don't imagine that the current Royals ever asked for that. I suspect that all thier 'hangers-on' or the rest of the 'Royal Household' if you will just put those things in place because they thought the Royal family should have that level of provilidge.
I blame them and us for that mess - not the actual Royal family.
I don’t call any of them sir though.
In uniform that was the only way to address members of the public. To not do so would incur the wrath of a grumpy individual with a pace-stick.
I wouldn’t have a clue what to call him if I had suddenly stumbled across the King on the trail
Protocol says that the first reply uses 'your majesty', then 'sir' for all subsequent ones if we're being polite.
To not do so would incur the wrath of a grumpy individual with a pace-stick.
I don't reckon any of those grumpy individuals with pace sticks are really that grumpy. It's all an act. I used to imagine them crocheting or flower arranging when they were purple faced, screaming at me and threatening to violate me with said pace stick. I'd never say that to one though! **** that for a game of soldiers! I got given a pace stick once as a (techy) warrant. Not a clue how to use it. It gathered dust in the corner of my office until I palmed it off on some wannabe drill pig.
The current royals may not have asked for the extensive power and privilege they enjoy, but they very much could make the choice to give it up. This would make them ‘decent human beings.’
And in terms of those powers not being used, the Queen’s (at the time) representative in Australia, the Governor General, dismissed a democratically elected prime minister within the lifetime of many forum users. The queen herself was at arms length from the decision but I’m sure it’s a complete coincidence that the prime minister in question instigated free higher education, universal healthcare and land rights for First Nations people. Oh, and started the process to remove god save the queen as the national anthem.
I wouldn’t have a clue what to call him if I had suddenly stumbled across the King on the trail
Protocol says that the first reply uses ‘your majesty’, then ‘sir’ for all subsequent ones if we’re being polite.
And common sense might be something like, 'I'm really sorry but this is an unusual encounter for me. What should I call you?', if indeed there was any need to call him anything. I had a similar encounter and then a conversation with rock god Brian May once, and didn't need to call him Brian, Mr May or sir. I suppose I could have inserted a 'sir' if I'd been feeling especially crawly. 😀
The current royals may not have asked for the extensive power and privilege they enjoy, but they very much could make the choice to give it up. This would make them ‘decent human beings.’
Yeah, and that's going really well for Harry and Meghan 😉
Does Andrew get a Royal warrant now 😀
Blimey, just caught it on the ITV News 😁
I’ve just watched the video after it turned up on Flipboard, and really enjoyed their meeting with Charles, it sort of confirms what he’s like in a non-official capacity, having seen a few bits of footage. Also Ann is like her dad, my brother’s first wife used to work with horses at Gatcombe, and Anne would help with mucking out and other stable yard work, and apparently rolled her sleeves up to clear out a blocked yard drain while some posh people were being shown around, just to see their reactions.
Anyhoo, apart from that, that was an awesome bit of riding, fabulous countryside, and that walkers path would challenge my walking ability, riding it gets a solid ‘NOPE’ from me, especially at those sort of speeds. 😳
Just watching it put my heart-rate up!
👌🏻🎯💯
Do you think there was a sniper for each of them or just one between three?
Must admit I wondered if they really were alone with him, especially as they'd been passed earlier down the track by a number of big black range rovers. Some poor buggers might have had to dive out of a nice warm car into a midge fest to keep tabs on them.
It prompted an interesting discussion in our house. Son, "well I'd just say hello and keep riding". Mrs anagallis would stop to chat...me I am really torn. I think I would stop and say hello, but it would be my only chance ever to tell a member of royalty that I think the concept is morally wrong and I know I'd regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't try to politely put this across. (Note, I would not be recording, that would make a difference). Is the reality that I'd bumble something vaguely polite, not bow and curtsey and then pedal off full of regret.
The video’s still there for me. I don’t see how it’s anything but a positive for the king
I wonder if there will be more royal fanboys around the estate hoping to get their own personal interaction for YouTube - some here would probably love to have recorded some smart words about monarchy being nonsense and ridiculous privilege. Whilst the media image people in the royal household will be loving it, I suspect the security staff are less enthused.
and hope Andrew gains a few extra beer tokens off the back of it. He make’s good content.
that took me a minute to realise the that man behind the camera is Andrew. In this context I thought you were referring to Charlie’s wee bro…
I don’t have a YouTube channel, and whilst I am firmly not a monarchist, don’t know what I would actually have called him or said to him, but I’m not sure I’d have posted it online! Does that make me obsidious? Perhaps, but whilst it was maybe nice to see he was a normal human it wasn’t really that interesting an interaction - cyclists make pleasant small talk to local land owner isn’t actually good content - it just happened to be because of who that landowner was. It would be nice to be able to go a walk in the hills without your conversations being videod and put online whoever you are.
A lady called me "sir" on the train yesterday when she asked if she could take the seat next to me. It felt odd to be addressed like that by a stranger.
My lad had picked up on the video somewhere, was impressed by all involved and he's not a royalist
It prompted an interesting discussion in our house. Son, “well I’d just say hello and keep riding”.
Like you I'd probably do the same as I do to anyone else I ride past in a remote area - hello, and carry on riding. But if I spotted that it was Charles, my brain would go through mental somersaults about whether to give a comedy salute along with the greeting, or maybe a Nazi salute might be more in keeping but that's pretty much frowned on by any sensible person these days, so keep it simple with a 'Howdy Big Man'.
At this point I would have fallen off, and been forced into a longer conversation with our revered regent.
Funny looking at the view count. McTrailrider normally gets something like 5-15K views on his videos, this ones already over half a million 😃
I use sir or madam sometimes when addressing strangers. If they are fellow bikers probably not. Thing is, I am not sure about addressing females as mate. My dad used ducks, but that was very much of its time and place ('60s and '70s South London).
It would be nice to be able to go a walk in the hills without your conversations being videod and put online whoever you are.
Yeah, that Royal family... always trying to avoid publicity!
half a million views, does it mean a lot of money for him to buy a new bike?
For his sort of videos, maybe £2.50/£3.00 per thousand views, so maybe £1500, but it would depend on click throughs, ads and so on.
For his sort of videos, maybe £2.50/£3.00 per thousand views, so maybe £1500, but it would depend on click throughs, ads and so on.
it’s now just shy of a million views, but presumably has consequential benefits too - pick up more subscribers, pick up a load of likes, comments etc, so the algorithm is more likely to promote his other content and thus get more clicks. If you make a video a week, long term, those benefits could be as important as the original video.
I thought the protocol was to refer to an elderberry odour and hamsters. (Or is he back now)