mcmoontertrackworld....... Vices

Here it is. Good working order, nice smooth action - well pleased for £19!

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Good buy that for 19 quid!

Ive been making good use of my vice' and mcmoonters old drill the day fixing up my girlfriends bikes...... She uses them till they stop moving and then moves onto the next telling no one nothing till they are all broken and it takes me a day and lots of £££ an penetrating oil to get them into gwo again !

A press might be next with the state of some ofthe bearings !!!!

Just won a Record No.1 vice on eBay for £19!

Very nice.

Have they painted the inside of the jaws as well? Still they're easy to replace.

matthewjb - Member
Just won a Record No.1 vice on eBay for £19!
Very nice.

Have they painted the inside of the jaws as well? Still they're easy to replace.

Yes. I'll wait and see if it effects operation at all. I've already found a place that sells replacements, about £14 iirc.

Not jealous at all

*Runs off to set up ebay search*

Worth checking gumtree too.
Slight problem with mine. The bolt holes line up exactly with edge of the support beam on my bench. It's not in its ideal position but will be fine for what I need.
Looking at the shiny ones on here I'm tempted to try a refurb

This thread is the best ever on Singletrack now on eBay to get one of my own I am sure used vales are going to rocket now 🙂

Ok some nice vices around here, anyone got a decent press though?

We have two in our workshop the small one for little jobs and the huge one we built using a jack for jacking up railway carriages!! (200 Ton Jack)

little press.

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Big F off Press!

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I've never seen that get stuck when used with a little judicious heat too!

😉

A genuine Tangye? Good stuff 😉

Just got this bad boy off the bay for £7.50

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😀

Afternoon All,

A mate's moved into a house and the previous owner left this in the shed. Plenty of grease in the mechanisms, so it works fine, but plenty of surface corrosion everywhere else.

I've spent a while squinting at the letters, and they keep changing the more I look! Mangsones? Man & Sons?

I figured there'd probably be a few vice buffs on here who'd recognise the name from the shape of the logo.

Any ideas?

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Thanks!

Ah! Top thread resurrection!

Sits back and watches with interest.

I've been watching gumtree for ages now, missed out on a couple of crackers. Need to be quicker off the mark!.

I've just been left a garage and some land by my late Grandfather. He was 85 when he popped it and did 50 years in the local granite quarry as a carpenter/fitter.

The bloke was a walking magpie and just had to 'have' stuff that was surplus in the quarry. I think he had a vice fettish so will have a look whats there. There is also a very large and old lathe there. Will report back at the weekend.

I want to play, behold the behemoth that is my precious.
I picked it for free with another from a high school that was being knocked down.

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And just to keep in my Record 84 hidden on the bench, liberated from the local dockyard.

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Finally, one with soft jaws. Shame on the rest of you 😀

😀 I've got alloy plates as well, depends on what i'm going to hold.

Thanks to this thread I have a rusty, but sound Record No 4. Just needs a good clean up with a rag and some thinners and a repaint. Sadly, I haven't really got a decent shed and bench to bolt it to, but it's already proved its worth while making my bushcraft knife. £50 on fleabay, so must be about £1/lb, then... 😀

nedrapier, - It's a Parkinsons Perfect vice.

From the top it should say
Parkinsons
Model F
Trade
Perfect vice
Mark
No 3 (or at least it looks like that size.)

They were made from about 1912 onwards, Sadly they wern't date stamped. (or so i'm aware)

Madfly, that's fantastic, thank you! 😀

Now I know what it's supposed to say, the letters swim into place (mostly!)

Were/are they any good? guess you can't go too far wrong with a couple of big lumps of metal and a screw...

It would appear so if it's lasted that long! Not the most versitile out there nor the biggest but fine for what it does.

Maybe there was a shortage of men live enough to use it for a stretch of that time?

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http://www.walter9.info/Parkinsons/html/expansion.html

Proud owner of this

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Needs a bit of TLC

Purchased for £20 🙂

I've got a couple of Records - one given by a neighbour and an 83 from my dad - given to me when he inherited his dad's. It is lacking a limit stop on the leadscrew, meaning that the quick release lever gets fired round by the spring if you open it too far - it has been giving me blood blister reminders of this "feature" since childhood 🙂

I've also got a unique "Brian No.1" as per the enclosed photo. Made by my father in law during his Army REME training. The gap under the jaws is the perfect size to gently hold / allow easy rotation of frame tubes during brazing.

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Mick, it's probabbly missing a washer!

To prevent it over opening they placed a simple penny washer at the end of the lead screw on most of their models. This act to stop the back of the sliding jaw cast from passing the half nut supports. It'll probabbly be about 12mm id 30mm od.

Just got one of these for the shed 🙂

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It's a bit overkill as the last one was a number 6 ,so it looks huge now it's bolted on the end of the bench.

Not too much wood work vice love on here yet, so thought I'd add mine. I recently bought an old Record 52 1/2, which was in a pretty sad state.
I was originally going to strip it all back and repaint it. But after removing most of the corrosion, thought it was best to leave what was left of the factory finish. I think I prefer it to show some scars from use over the decades.

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I've been digging for info on my Fortis

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and found that they were from 91 Station Street

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mine is the one on the left

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http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Fortis_Engineering_Co

😀

I do like those offset vices.

I like my bench vices like the next man but this little fellow is incredibly handy!

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Clearing out my dads garage and forgot all about the vice in there, its a "Samson", green in colour or whats left of the paint. greased the threads working fine
Believe it came from my granddads so probably few years old

Any info, opens up to about 6"

That offset vice is genius! I've never seen anything quite like that, but it makes so much sense.

mine is the one on the left

Doh! [i]R I G H T[/i]

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thats both mine mounted in their final resting place now -only took me forever to do it.....

my drill press lives to the left of the number 4 in the second picture and my bench grinder to the right. much taller and less deep work place than my old bench which was a nightmare of a height and far too deep - took up too much of the garage.

Looks good Terry. Having good storage the keep the bench clear is something I need a lesson on.

McM this is something terry needs a lesson in as well, you should see what is just out of shot 😉

But i have room to work.....thats the important thing russ.....

Behind me in that shot is a v8 engine, and lt85 long nose gear box , engine hoist , random sheet stock and various lengths of wood.,... As well as many cardboard boxes and polystyrene that needs a tip run. Oh and a land rover interior....

I bought a lovely Workbench today complete with a lovely Record 23 attached for the princely sum of £20. I then got given a Record 112 by the chap in the next unit along as he doesn't use it anymore and I dug my old Fortis 10 out of the back of the shed to take the picture.

If anyone wants the Fortis 10 for free they'd be most welcome, it does have the quick release issue, needs the half nut sorting out but its free to a good home colection from just off Junction 12 of the M40 Near Gaydon.

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Moved into a new house a month ago and got left a Record no3 and having read the above now know is a woodworking vice made by Marples

These No.23 vices are huge. The 112 is probably still good for another 100 years. Top finds.

Doof Doof, what did you use to clean up your vice? I've got a woodworking vice that needs a refurb, I'd be delighted if I could ge it anywhere near as shiny as yours.

Doof Doof, what did you use to clean up your vice? I've got a woodworking vice that needs a refurb, I'd be delighted if I could ge it anywhere near as shiny as yours.

I used a wire wheel (proper one, not drill mounted) to get the bulk of it cleaned up. It came off quite readily, but it killed my arms holding it during the process! The areas the wheel couldn't access, eg. between the guide shafts, I used fabric backed sandpaper strips. I finished it will canuba wax and it seems to be holding up fine so far.

I also have a rare Record #75 like yours that I'm in the process of cleaning up. Thinking of using the bead blaster at work on that one as there's no original finish worth trying to preserve. Will post some pics when it's eventually done.

Yeah I thought the 23 was big until we put the 112 up against it, 6" jaws instead of 4" and everything is massive, shame the 23 is cracked as it doesn't look like it's been abused!

Hmm, Vice envy....

Had another look through this thread last night and decided to upgrade from my Woden 188.
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The bloke was asking £50, but I bid him £40 and he accepted 😀
A quick wire brush and grease and I reckon she'll be as good as new.
£600 in Machine Mart 😯

Edit: Aargh how do you get Flickr links to work again?

Hi all
just bought of eba a Record 35p, cant find any history on web, anyone know the age.

Thought I'd stick up a pic of the Record No 4 I bought nearly a year ago, as I was using it this afternoon, and it was a good opportunity.
I don't have a big enough shed, or a bench I can bolt it to, but for the odd little jobs I need a vice for, the damn thing is so heavy that it doesn't move much.
The item in the jaws is a horn scale from a little pocket knife and I'm making a pair of new ones out of Striped Asian Ebony, and I needed to file it pretty much to shape, before the final finishing on the knife.
The white bits are ice lolly sticks, ideal for preventing damage to the item being gripped.

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I rather like its worn appearance, the paint has cracked and flaked off, possibly because it's been re-painted with something that's reacted at some point, but it's good and solid, and I think nicely [i]patinated[/i]. 😀

I picked up one of these last night after being inspired by this thread.
Not sure what brand/model it is but it weighs as much as a small car and opens and closes, not bad for £25.
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Any tips on cleaning them up and painting?

Found myself looking at Record vices the other day, this thread is solely to blame!

me1tdown, probably just a wire brush on an electric drill, with a hand-held wire brush with short bristles for the fiddly bits. Aluminium oxide paper stuck to strips of duct tape is useful for cleaning up any round bits like the winding handle, stops the paper from tearing, and polishes as it wears and gets smoother.

My almost finished workbench, a record 52 1/2 woodwork vice, a no3 and a no36 in need of a bit of tlc. It needs new jaws but cost me nothing 🙂

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just bought a record no 2 vice off ebay - quite excited; need to get out more.

Nipper99, an hour ago...

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How'd you know i've got a heavy cold.

Whilst at the local recycling centre getting rid of an old concrete path, i spied someone ready to chuck this away:

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given it to a neighbour.

Damn, qwerty, that's an impressively hefty piece of kit! I like the lockable swivel arrangement, very nifty!
I'd have had to have kept that! 😀

Thought I'd resurrect this thread with my No.75 refurb.
Purchased in pretty poor cosmetic condition, although seemed to work fine (sellers photo):
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I wire brushed the handle/screw assembly and bead blasted the body:
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Three coats of Hammerite later. These cast steel vices were red to differentiate them from the standard cast iron ones, and were guaranteed unbreakable. Realised too late I shouldn't have painted the top of the anvil and areas around the jaws. Jaws are just aluminium ones I made up while I source new replacements for the originals that were damaged during removal. Record No.1 for size comparison (3" jaws).
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Very nice!

Wow, that's a beast!

Nice work doof-doof. No. 75s are fantastic vices, their offset jaws are pretty handy too.

The condition of the jaws on mine is pretty similar the condition of yours pre resto. They still work really well. I'd be interested to hear if you can find new ones however.

Last time I looked, which was more than twenty years ago they were really expensive, £60 or thereabouts.

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[i]Purchased in pretty poor cosmetic condition[/i]

I dunno... Looks lovely like that 🙂

I have vice envy. Any vice would do but that big red one has me hooked.

That 74 is a lovely vice, great work! - looking to restore one as a present for my nephew - an engineering apprentice - for his 21st. . . . but they are hard to find. Have a Parkinsons 7, a Record 2 that have refurbished and in use - and a Record 53e redady for when the workbench gets extended in the garage

The condition of the jaws on mine is pretty similar the condition of yours pre resto. They still work really well. I'd be interested to hear if you can find new ones however.

Last time I looked, which was more than twenty years ago they were really expensive, £60 or thereabouts.

The resto job on that 75 is stunning, doof_doof, I'll bet it never looked as good as that when new!
The wedge-shaped block by the anvil at the back, is that designed to be easily knocked out? Is the idea to be able to use different materials, or just be able to replace it when it's been bashed about too much to use properly?
Whatever, that's a terrific piece of equipment.

Thanks, but the bead blaster machine does most of the hard work 😉
The bashing block on the back wouldn't budge on mine when I tried to move it. I don't know if MM has tried to remove the one on his vice? I suspect that it isn't designed to be removed/replaced, it's simply an insert made of tougher steel than the cast body and can take more of a beating. I would have thought if it was designed to be a consumable, it would be screwed on.
By the way, jaw screws on the 75 are indeed 5/16" BSW if anyone finds this from a google search.

I don't know if MM has tried to remove the one on his vice?

Mine slides in and out nicely 😀

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Mine slides in and out nicely

Maybe I need to try a bigger hammer 🙁

Where's the best place to get some soft jaws and axle clamps? The soft jaws seem Ive seen eBay, but struggling to find the axle/shaft clamps. It's for reverb servicing amongst other things

E-N-V-Y!!!!!

I would have one tomorrow but no bench (or space for one). Hmmmm, unless I empty the garage of crap - but then it could just get nicked.

Where's the best place to get some soft jaws and axle clamps? The soft jaws seem Ive seen eBay, but struggling to find the axle/shaft clamps. It's for reverb servicing amongst other things

I'd make some out of wood.

I did make a basic shaft clamp with wood for it, but would prefer a proper tool.

Fox sell their version of shaft clamp jaws.
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Otherwise drills some holes in some wood and split it down its length.

Park make:

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I picked ^^this^^ up for £12 in a tool auction at Penrith earlier this month. No makers name on it, all welded steel construction. Never seen anything like it before (at least 75% of why I bought it 😉 )
It'll be joining a steel Record 36 when I get time to rebuild my workbench...

Dad uses this on an almost daily basis...

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...backed up by a Record no5 on a swivel base. He's also got a no74 Autovice and a no80 Imp in a cupboard. And a Swinden under the bench...

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And an assortment of other Records & Wodens...

I think tool fetishes are hereditary 😈

Good looking Swindens 😉

My main squeeze.. the father inlaw donated it, looks to have seen some use
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When I do eventually sort out a proper work bench, this will be added
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Just been given a Woden 186B/2
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but the clamp bolt and supporting cast iron has sheerer off, worth trying to drill is out?
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Picked up a Record no1 off Gumtree yesterday, just need to decide where about I'm going to mount it on the bench. It's dinky, but should do me for bike stuff.

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Took stock of the vices at framebuild HQ today, realised I missed the woodworking one or the lug vice and this doesn't include the two at the shop. The two big Records are actually different, one is 6 inch opening, the other 8, both quick release. The small record vice is mounted on a block of wood so it can be held in one of the other vices to hold stuff at different angles. I think I have a problem

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Got offered this beast; record 112. Bit ott for my uses.
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New vice:

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It's come home 😉