[Closed] Mayweather Vs McGregor

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Complete shambles and did nothing to help the failing sport of boxing. Fair play to mc gregor for trying to break the hug each other for 11 rounds mould. Unfortunately it's all mayweather knows

I thought it was decent enough and I was surprised at how well McGregor did. It's a pity he seemed to have trained for only a 6 round fight though. Barring managing to land a (very) lucky hit he was a dead man walking from 7 onwards.

So much salt...

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McGregor did well? Negative negative.... Mayweather let the fight go on for as long as it did and could have finished it much earlier. I don't think McG did very well at all, certainly not quite as well as he said he would. Haha. Mayweather barely broke a sweat.

Listened to the last few rounds on Radio 5. Steve Bunce was raving about what a fantastic fight it was.

So I watched it this morning.

I guess Bunce has his own motives for talking this fight up.

Break the hug each other mould by repeatedly punching to the back of mayweathers head you mean rmac ?

Edit: Target javelin, I'd watch that!

It'll last a reasonable length of time as Mayweather doesn't take risks. But there will only be one winner, either late stoppage or easy points for Mayweather. If Canelo, Pacquiao, Hatton etc couldn't land a single meaningful shot in 34 rounds, then McGregor doesn't stand a chance.

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You're buying into the hype, this happens every time before a Mayweather fight - he's too old, brittle hands, younger hungry opponent, we've found his weakness etc - they all end the same way, Floyd won't take risks, the crowd will go crazy as Connor throws some huge shots, but if you look closely you'll see that none actually land, Floyd lands some spiteful counters and does enough to win each round. It either ends late on if McGregor gasses, or 108-120 points to Floyd.

Called it! (to be fair, so did a load of others on this thread)

Funny on Sky this morning, still trying to sell the repeats for £20, quoting all the positive Tweets* from ex-boxers etc!
I won't even bother with the free replay. My post that I typed, then deleted so as not to upset anyone, about victory in the fight will mean nothing, unless you put a bet on the fight, was unfortunately true.

*also funny was the presenter reading the word "epitome" as epi-toam 🙂

Mayweather is going to earn at least between $100 million - $300 million.

Just purely from boxing income Mayweather has earned $1.6 billion. 😯

McGregor is going to earn at least between $30 million - $75 million.

That's a vast different between the two earners. 😮

It looks like people still love to watch a bit of fighting ... 😆

Damn, boxing fans and pundits managing to sound bitter in victory. Of course it's moral victory for McGregor.

He's just a brawler, he couldn't even box an amateur never mind the best boxer ever. Any boxer will beat him one handed. He won't land a punch. Mayweather will knock him out in the first round.......and he's damned if does too. If he'd knock Floyd out it would have been just a "lucky shot".

He forsook 85% of his skills, stepped out of his comfort zone and tested himself against one of the best boxers of all time and gave a decent account of himself with 6 months prep. Oh and it was the biggest boxing match of all time purely because of McGregor.

Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now 😆

Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now

Damn, boxing fans and pundits managing to sound bitter in victory. Of course it's moral victory for McGregor.

jimjam - Member
Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now

That would be good to see because MMA fighters do not just fight with the fists. 😛

MMA fighting in traditional boxing are handicapped by the rules.

[quote=jimjam ]Damn, boxing fans and pundits managing to sound bitter in victory. Of course it's moral victory for McGregor.

Mayweather won, McGregor lost, get over it snowflake 😆

Just watched it on youtube, glad I never botherered to stay up for that.

Mcgregor won the first 2 rnds, but only because Mayweather didn't even try winning them, he threw around 5 punches in the first 3 minutes

I've seen floyd struggle in a first half of a fight before (maidaina most recently) where he genuinely looked troubled. Last night was completely different, he looked completely at ease. Saying that mcgregor gave him a harder fight than some of his more recent opponents is nonsence, as soon as he started throwing it for an absolute formality.

Unless mcgregor's next boxing fight is against someone like malinaggi he would be destroyed even quicker. Remember Floyd hasn't legitimately stopped anyone in 10 years. Can you imagine what someone like Alvarez or GGG would do to him.

Also not sure why folks are calling boxing fans bitter. It was a joke fight that went pretty much how expected. only surprise was that floyd didn't even appear bothered to try in first 9 min. Although given his history of doing just enough to get by, its perhaps not surprising that he was prepared to take zero risk, even against a novice.

Lots of big opinions on something people mostly know nothing about.

If anyone thought anything else other that what happened you don't know what you're talking about.

Mayweather isn't a big puncher, he out thinks opponents. McGregor has got a great chin, he's clearly a much much bigger bloke with an awkward stance and freakishly long arms.

Mayweather worked him out in the first few rounds like he does to everyone he's fought then found a way to win. He's a boring fighter, but a great one too.

McGregors punching technique was almost embarrassing, if someone punches with their arms like he does in my gym they get a rollocking. As soon as Mayweather felt one soft shot he'll have known his game plan was perfect.

Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now 

[url= http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40999174 ]AJ's up for it[/url]

What I dont get is everyone saying Mcgregor proved everyone wrong

It was an absolutely calculated performance by Floyd, firstly figure out his style, let the fight and stamina unravel, then go for the power punches.

Boring yes, professional, absolutely

Agreed

Conor was completely outclassed. He didn't look remotely like he belonged in there. He managed to last 10 rounds against a 40 year old bloke who barely looked interested, there were zero moral victories by anyone involved with the whole cake and arse party.

pondo - Member

Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now

AJ's up for it

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tpbiker - Member
What I dont get is everyone saying Mcgregor proved everyone wrong

If Mayweather is to fight MMA style he too will be out of his depth. But since he is the "money man" if you want to grab his money you fight his way, coz he will not fight out of his comfort zone. However, if Maywather is to fight MMA style then that will be much more interesting, and I will definitely watch this.

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[i]Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now[/i]

Why? cos you enjoy a massively hyped build up to a crap fight?
I'd rather MMA fighters fight MMA and boxers box. That's how you get good, value for money fights (amongst the stinkers 😉 )

jonnytheleyther -
Lots of big opinions on something people mostly know nothing about.

jimjam - Member
Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now

Let's see a world champion boxer in his prime transition to MMA now

I dont see a moral victory for Mcgregor. He said he'd knock him out in the first 4 rounds. His cardio is embarrassing, his punching power went after 2 rounds and Floyd never really had to step it up & in the post fight conference he was a prize bell-end.

Amazing that he is so capable in MMA- its his punching that makes him good!

I predict Diaz to beat him again in the next fight.

ctk - Member
I dont see a moral victory for Mcgregor. He said he'd knock him out in the first 4 rounds. His cardio is embarrassing, his punching power went after 2 rounds and Floyd never really had to step it up & in the post fight conference he was a prize bell-end.

Traditional boxer concentrate all their strengths in upper body.

MMA is a mixed bag all rounder ...

Remember [b]Muhammad Ali vs. Antonio Inoki[/b]? 😛 I was watching live on telly and it was so funny coz they both avoided each others. 😆

I mean Ali dare not even go near Inoki because once on the canvass Ali would be in trouble.

Amazing that he is so capable in MMA- its his punching that makes him good!

I predict Diaz to beat him again in the next fight.

edit: at least Ali let Inoki fight using different rules.

gobuchul - Member
Listened to the last few rounds on Radio 5. Steve Bunce was raving about what a fantastic fight it was.

So I watched it this morning.

I guess Bunce has his own motives for talking this fight up.

Bunce lost all credibility with his previous swooning over Audley Harrison ... Bunce is a clown who will sell his soul for the right price (usually a bit of media attention will do)

I will agree that Bunce is an idiot who confuses shouting with knowledge.

I won't agree. Bunce is an enthusiastic and jolly presenter with a decent personality and a passion for the sport he's talking about. I like him. 😛

Bunce the loud mouth from fighting talk, does boxing who'd have thought 🙄 😆

Yes Bunce is enthusiastic, jolly and got passion for the sport ... it's just he will say whatever he thinks his paymaster wants him to say; he has absolutely no credibility.

Has he left Boxnation now then?

He managed to last 10 rounds against a 40 year old bloke who barely looked interested,

This and had been retired for two years.

Was there any point to this "match" other than to make obscene sums of money for some people? All that posturing they do before fights - I'm sure there rehearse all that stuff.

Was there any point to this "match" other than to make obscene sums of money for some people?

Proper tear ups these:

Worth watching all volumes.

Obviously, the fight is nothing like a paid advertisement.

So he's willing to fight MMA so long as it's not MMA. Jesus wept.

pondo - Member

So he's willing to fight MMA so long as it's not MMA. Jesus wept.

He's willing to fight an MMA fighter in a catch-rule contest, which is more than Mayweather was. Or would you prefer another grossly mismatched farce?

I would prefer people to just admit when they don't have a clue. AJ is anything but "up for it". He's been back and forth on twitter with Stipe Miocic. Stipe is the perfect example of a boxer-wrestler. His striking is heavily boxing based. He has heavy hands and is a decent wrestler but he's no kickboxer.

So what Anthony Joshua has said (with one eye on Stipe) is that he's willing to box an amateur boxer. He's being about as brave as Floyd.

Yeah, AJ's such a cowardy custard. What a pansy.

DezB - Member

Yeah, AJ's such a cowardy custard. What a pansy.

If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter he would simply ask to fight an MMA fighter without the caveats. Choosing a ruleset that heavily favours him isn't exactly bold or daring. People would be throwing money at him. He can dress it up whatever way he wants but "I haven't got time to learn submissions" is just another way of saying "I can't win".

[i]If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter[/i]

Cross discipline fights are for the washed up and money grabbers, AJ's career has a long long way to go before he'd bother [i]seriously[/i] considering any bout. It's not even worth arguing about.

It's not even worth arguing about.

You forget where you are?

[quote=jimjam ]If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter

Yes, I'm sure that's the only reason lots of boxers aren't stepping into the ring to fight MMA fighters under MMA rules, and lots of other MMA fighters aren't stepping into the boxing ring. Unless of course you mean realistically afraid in a way McGregor wasn't.

aracer - Member

jimjam » If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter

Yes, I'm sure that's the only reason lots of boxers aren't stepping into the ring to fight MMA fighters under MMA rules,

I was addressing Dezb's glib, childish "cowardly pansy" comments. You can debate the semantics of "fear" and how it relates to professional combat sports athletes willingness or lack of willingness to compete in under different rule sets but healthy respect, lack of desire and fear are all on that spectrum.

and lots of other MMA fighters aren't stepping into the boxing ring.

They've been bloody falling over themselves to try and get involved in big boxing fights. Transitioning to boxing doesn't represent the same dangers or fears for MMA fighters as going the opposite way does for boxers. They're already risking brain damage and broken bones for a few hundred thousand. Might as well just risk brain damage for a few million.

As McGregor said "I've already been strangled unconscious on live tv, this was a laugh".

DezB - Member

Cross discipline fights are for the washed up and money grabbers, AJ's career has a long long way to go before he'd bother seriously considering any bout.

Yeah, AJ IS obviously an altruistic hippy who take no interest in money. He's just talking about having an [s]MMA[/s] [s]kick boxing,[/s] fight with Stipe incase he finds himself begging on the streets.

[i]Dezb's glib, childish "cowardly pansy" comments[/i]

Glad you got that, at least.

Yeah, AJ IS obviously an altruistic hippy who take no interest in money. He's just talking about having an MMA kick boxing, fight with Stipe incase he finds himself begging on the streets

as a response makes no sense whatsoever. He'd make more money fighting an mma character than Fury, Wilder or Povetkin? uh-huh.

If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter he would simply ask to fight an MMA fighter without the caveats

I am not sure what point you think you just proved with this tbh.

As for the fight Conor better than expected but not sure if that was because maywether did not actually try early doors - how many punches did he throw in the first few rounds? The back turning and hammer fisting was comical- no idea why mayweather kept turning his back

Not a great fight or spectacle and the inevitable result happened

Junkyard - lazarus

Not sure what you men by afraid - certain to lose but is this really afraid?

I was using it in the broadest sense, in response to

DezB - Member

Yeah, AJ's such a cowardy custard. What a pansy.

At no point had I accused him of having fear. I simply said in McGregor's defence, let's see a boxing champion make the opposite transition now. Pondo claimed Anthony Joshua was willing to do so, and the point I made was that Joshua hasn't done anything of the sort.

He'd make more money fighting an mma character than Fury, Wilder or Povetkin? uh-huh.

Yeah because there's no precedent of a boxer making big money by fighting "an mma character" 🙄

Isn't the point he was making that he would obviously lose an mma but with mma rules, and would obviously win a boxing bout.

Remove the submissions and it would be a much closer fight that could genuinely go either way. Don't we want to see fights that aren't a foregone conclusion?

That said.. I'd rather see him sticking to boxing. It's not as if he's not got anyone left to fight.

tpbiker - Member

Isn't the point he was making that he would obviously lose an mma but with mma rules, and would obviously win a boxing bout.

Remove the submissions.....

....and it's no longer MMA. Not even close. It becomes a fundamentally different sport so he's not willing to compete in MMA.

Any bjj player or freestyle wrestler could say they're willing to box Anthony Joshua, just so long as they can take him to the canvas and strangle him.

Don't we want to see fights that aren't a foregone conclusion?

Yes. That's why I'd like to see AJ fight Demetrious Johnson..

Does this really have to explained?! again?

[i]no precedent of [/i] an active, rising star, career ahead of him, [i]boxer making big money by fighting "an mma character" [/i]

If he wasn't afraid of fighting an MMA fighter he would simply ask to fight an MMA fighter without the caveats

Poor old jimjam, trying to deflect after his man crush gobbed off then had his ass handed to him, just as most people said he would.

But... but.... not mma... waaaah.

wrecker

Bollocks. He's only stipulated no submissions and I don't blame him.

Where is the bang head emoji?

....and it's no longer MMA

Obviously not..

Did you read the article? He didn't say he'd fight an mma bout did he? He said he'd fight an opponent from mma in a fight with defined rules.

I don't think anyone wants to see a boxer fight in mma ever again after toney's efforts (albeit a well past it massively fat version of toney )

Any bjj player or freestyle wrestler could say they're willing to box Anthony Joshua

Why dont they try Judo with Judo rules are they scared?

This is stupid

People who practice a specific fighting style wont be very good against those who do another type of fighting

Apparently its news to some on STW

Where is the bang head emoji?

tpbiker - Member

Obviously not..

Did you read the article? He didn't say he'd fight an mma bout did he? He said he'd fight an opponent from mma in a fight with defined rules.

The difference is clearly too subtle for most people to grasp, and in response to the question "would you be willing to fight an mma fighter" his reply was yes.

Junkyard

Why dont they try Judo with Judo rules are they scared?

You mean like the time BJ Penn submitted 10 judo blackbelts in a row at a judo comp?

Where is the bang head emoji?

BJ Penn is actually a BJJ purple, wearing a white belt because he holds no rank in Judo.

These are [b]local, recreational judoka[/b] vs one of the best jiu jitsu players in the world.

BJ Penn has recently begun training Judo. He says he regrets this video surfacing and that he believes if you want to challenge Judo players, you shouldn't try to game the rules to turn it into a BJJ match.

It wouldn't be right for AJ to turn up at a local recreational MMA tourney and punch the snot out of everyone now would it?

These are local, recreational judoka vs one of the best jiu jitsu players in the world.

Blackbelts against a purple belt, my point still stands. Joshua is obviously trying to get some shine from the May/Mc fight but if he wants a kickboxing contest why doesn't he challenge Gokhan Saki or Tyrone Spong.

wrecker
It wouldn't be right for AJ to turn up at a local recreational MMA tourney and punch the snot out of everyone now would it?

He'd get taken down and mauled.

my point still stands.

He'd get taken down and mauled.

Are you saying BJ Penn was a professional athlete at the top of his game when he was a bjj purple belt earning no money, having had no professional fights before he won worlds at brown belt, before he started competing in mma?

Yeah OK mate.

"I can't beat a guy (via submission). That takes a lot of time to learn the skills and submissions, which I don't have the time for,

The difference is clearly too subtle for most people to grasp, and in response to the question "would you be willing to fight an mma fighter" his reply was yes.

but not in an MMA bout..which is the important bit you have conveniently left out..

if he wants a kickboxing contest why doesn't he challenge Gokhan Saki or Tyrone Spong.

If you need that answering then you are kind of missing the point I think.

tpbiker

but not in an MMA bout..which is the important bit you have conveniently left out..

I've seen interviews with him where he didn't add any caveats. As I said, it's a difference that is too subtle for most people to grasp, and the MMA fighter he is most closely linked to fighting is a wrestle-boxer.

He's got one eye on Stipe Miocic and saying "it doesn't bother me, I like the violence, I'm down for whatever, I'll fight the UFC heavyweight champ (just none of the pesky wrestling, takedowns, grappling, jiujitsu, submissions etc, I haven't got time for that).

I'm persobaly waiting for Steve peat to ride the tour de France it's just riding bikes after all

I'm guessing i'm the only one that actually enjoyed the fight? 😆

I enjoyed it.

I am enjoying the boxing fans reaction as well.

Link to these interviews please, because only one I have seen he is fairly clear in adding caveats. He also thinks he'd lose..

And where does he mention no grappling or takedowns? In the BBC interview it states no submissions.. Are they the same thing?

Unless of course he mentions these caveats in other interviews you have seen.. Oh wait.. There were no caveats in these interviews..

Jamie - Member
I enjoyed it.

I am enjoying the boxing fans reaction as well.

aye it's ridiculously over the top, the fight went pretty much as expected, still interesting enough seeing mcgregor well out of his comfort zone. How people can't give him credit for that I don't know.

I'd be interested to see more where mcgregor managed to get himself to after say 10 or 15 pro fights, rather than another 1 off ie joshua., though I'd still like to see somethign like that.

jimjam - Member

The difference is clearly too subtle for most people to grasp, and in response to the question "would you be willing to fight an mma fighter" his reply was yes.

I'd be willing to fight an mma fighter, as long as it was fought only with sarcasm. But I don't think that's what people really expect.

tpbiker - Member

Link to these interviews please,

I'll see if I can find it.

And where does he mention no grappling or takedowns? In the BBC interview it states no submissions.. Are they the same thing?

Part of the same thing, you can't have submissions without grappling, you can't fight on the ground without takedowns but he is all over the map so to speak. Would he be open to slams? I doubt it. He references other boxers losing due to "the ground and pound game". You can't ground and pound someone if they aren't on the ground.

In my opinion he's using the word submission as a catch all term for grappling in general as it pertains to mma.

I'd fight an MMA fight, long as I could use a chib. 😆 we don't want rules getting in the way now, do we?

You mean like the time BJ Penn submitted 10 judo blackbelts in a row at a judo comp?

my point still stands.

Junkyard - lazarus

as noted even he does not stand by his mauling of local black belts at a very minor "competition" So no not like that at say the Olympics that sort of thing

You don't think becoming an Olympian Judoka is taking cross training just a little bit too far? You asked why don't they compete in Judo, are they scared. Evidently not.

Judo's reliance on the gi limits its usefulness as a discipline for mma fighters to cross train in. But the gi is the main reason a lot of high level bjj guys cross train in judo, if for example they are trying to win the mundials at purple belt as BJ was at the time.

The list of mma fighters who fight or compete in other disciplines is a long one. Do we need to get into it?

Slightly less seriously.. I wonder what weapon I would need to be able to defeat Connor mcgregor in the octagon.

Obviously a gun wouldn't be particularly fair, but could I defeat him if I had say a baseball bat. It would be a quick fight regardless.. Either I hit him on the head the first time he comes close, or he beats me to a pulp within a matter of seconds.

A sword would possibly be a better choice as he'd be less likely to block it

I'm willing to find out if I get a share of ppv

I prefer Northwind's idea - you could spar him verbally.

You don't think becoming an Olympian Judoka is taking cross training just a little bit too far? You asked why don't they compete in Judo, are they scared. Evidently not

Aren't we talking about the best verses the best? As mentioned previously, I'm pretty sure Joshua would win an mma fight against a punter at a local club regardless of rules.

Just as mcgregor would easily handle most folks at the local boxing club I went to.