[Closed] Mayweather Vs McGregor

loddrick, tell me otherwise, what did I say about stance, weight, the way the fight will play out that's so funny?

Interestingly, you haven't tried to break the fight down, in this thread, just posted gifs, and said Conor won't hit him, without any substance behind your thoughts.

lets hear it...

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interesting....

That looks like a legit news site.

schrickvr6 - Member

That looks like a legit news site.

Yeah, I see it's also being reported on such reputable news channels as Conspiracy Rabbit TV and Illuminati Secrets Revealed on youtube.

#fakenews

The wishful thinking that McGregors unconventional and very different fighting style and stance is going to be to his benefit is laughable; the best style and stance for boxing is the boxing stance ... its developed to be so.
From the prizefighting rules of arms out and fists angled upwards to predominantly deliver the punch in an uppercut arch to protect hands/knuckles, to the modern queensbury rules where hands are protected and full bloodied shots can be safely thrown at the head.

McGregor will look foolish, and find it very painful if he starts throwing punches in the ring as he is showing on the punch bag.

I am not even sure McGregor is taking this serious, he seems to be spending more time posing for instagram photos.

Sorry Warton, not really buying into your prediction.. no way McGregor manages to achieve what Hatton, Pacquiao, Cotto, Canelo, De La Hoya etc failed to do, considering they all boxed since a young age and know the sport inside out.

You're buying into the hype, this happens every time before a Mayweather fight - he's too old, brittle hands, younger hungry opponent, we've found his weakness etc - they all end the same way, Floyd won't take risks, the crowd will go crazy as Connor throws some huge shots, but if you look closely you'll see that none actually land, Floyd lands some spiteful counters and does enough to win each round. It either ends late on if McGregor gasses, or 108-120 points to Floyd.

Canelo is arguably the pound for pound active fighter, and could hardly lay a glove on Mayweather. McGregor won't fair any better.

I am not even sure McGregor is taking this serious, he seems to be spending more time posing for instagram photos.

Erm.

mooman - Member

McGregor will look foolish, and find it very painful if he starts throwing punches in the ring as he is showing on the punch bag.

Hook line and sinker springs to mind.

If anybody really thinks this is going to be any kind of contest - they are deluding themselves.

These are two different sports. McGregor may be master of MMA but he'd be hopelessly outclassed by any elite level boxer. You can't learn boxing by sparring for a few months. It takes a lifetime. If this was a boxing/MMA hybrid type contest then it might be different.

Mayweather is one of the greatest of all time. It'll be a non event.

Why are they doing it? The pay cheque. Who can blame them?

The public are gullible. Enough of them can be fooled once - that's all the money men need to sell this farce.

McGregor may be master of MMA but he'd be hopelessly outclassed by any elite level boxer

Like Paulie Malignaggi....

Paulie is clearly in massive decline, hasn't had a decent victory in around 8 years. He's also retired, out of shape and you're basing your judgement on two handpicked 5 second clips of sparring - we don't know what happened in the first 10 rounds - Paulie is claiming he won them then gassed later on as he was out of shape - he's asked for the tapes to be released to prove this.

Either way, prime Paulie would easily beat prime McGregor, and an old Mayweather would comfortably beat both of them.

I'd like to think it'll be interesting to watch but i can't see it in honesty.

I'm expecting McGregor goes out hard in the first round, his only real hope being to surprise mayweather and flatten him inside a minute, chances are slim. After that its mayweather's fight to loose, mayweather will dance the night away and leave McGregor bruised and bloodied by the end having taken very few meaningful blows.

McGregor isn't going down unless he runs himself into the ground.

Mayweather isn't going down unless he screws up.

Mayweather wins on a huge points margin.

It's nothing to do with how good McGregor is, the fact is he's in the wrong ring and his only hope is to win a points match with an early knockout. (And there's the thing this isn't a knockout sport with Mayweather, regardless of what's achievable in the rules)

Tyson would have been an interesting boxer to fight McGregor and probably would have lost. Mayweather will be as dull on Saturday as he's always been and in all probability will best McGregor.

[quote=namastebuzz ]
These are two different sports. McGregor may be master of MMA but he'd be hopelessly outclassed by any elite level boxer. You can't learn boxing by sparring for a few months. It takes a lifetime. If this was a boxing/MMA hybrid type contest then it might be different.

Conor's been a professional fighter for almost 10 years.

He started boxing at age 12, and was all Ireland champion. At 16 he switched to martial arts.

What do you think happens in an MMA gym? Do you think they're always doing "mma"? If so, you're wrong. During training the fighters will do sessions dedicated to a particular discipline. A boxing session, a jits session, a muay thai session, a wrestling session etc, then they'll bring it all together for sparring and drills.

To say Conor hasn't been boxing is a mistake. Yes, Floyd is far, far more experienced, but Conor hasn't just learned to box in the last few weeks.

he fought for a world title 6 months ago....

McGregor's opponents are mostly scared of the surprise right leg. Watch his matches. It's got to hurt. A lot. A knee in the upper thigh renders you pretty much unable to stand, let alone walk, let alone box.

In a boxing ring, that's obvs illegal. So my money's on Mayweather.

I think both sides need to chill out. It's just a goofy bit of entertainment.

The facts are Mayweather is one of the most dominant boxers in the last decade. Conor, in boxing terms is not. Logic states Mayweather wins, but it's always fun to see an upset.

he fought for a world title 6 months ago....

user-removed - Member

McGregor's opponents are mostly scared of the surprise right leg.

That's called a leg kick. In mma it's not a surprise.

Jamie - Member

It's just a goofy bit of entertainment.

Very much so.

Well we've bought in to the whole freak show, lads round at mates house, beer, decks, pool and darts are the starting point to our evening, who knows if any of us will stay awake for the actual fight....

My dad is bigger than your dad

wrightyson - Member
Well we've bought in to the whole freak show, lads round at mates house, beer, decks, pool and darts are the starting point to our evening, who knows if any of us will stay awake for the actual fight....

Sounds like you'll get all the best bits anyhow.

I hate all the people who organised this circus,but only because I know its just a farce but I want to see it so damn much,marketing geniuses all of them,****ers:)

Imagine, just for one second, that you've grown up in between caravans beating up your friends.

Then suddenly, a grown up imposes rules. No legs, no hits below the belt, no getting your mates in to finsh up.

That wee caravan boy doesn't stand a chance, much as I'd like him to.

[quote=Jamie ]
The facts are Mayweather is one of the most dominant boxers in the last decade. Conor, in boxing terms is not. Logic states Mayweather wins, but it's always fun to see an upset.

^this

It's fun.

Floyd win for me
Conor could surprise us and come out wild in the first few rounds. I can't see him being remotely bothered by Floyd's power so he may just go for it

[quote=user-removed ]Imagine, just for one second, that you've grown up in between caravans beating up your friends.
Then suddenly, a grown up imposes rules. No legs, no hits below the belt, no getting your mates in to finsh up.
That wee caravan boy doesn't stand a chance, much as I'd like him to.

Ah, casual racism

He's Irish and fights so he must be a gypsy eh?
🙄

That wee caravan boy doesn't stand a chance, much as I'd like him to.

You know that Conor McGregor isn't actually Mickey from Snatch don't you?

He's not a gypsy is he? I thought his family were always relatively well off and had a big house any everything:)

Has he got any dags?

No he's not a gypsy, user removed is just being a bit of a dick

muggomagic - Member

No he's not a gypsy, user removed is just being a bit of a dick

I thought his [i]"surprise kick"[/i] analysis was more insightful.

That's called a leg kick. In mma it's not a surprise.

Well. You tell me when it's coming and call it a surprise.

I don't believe for one second that a person can fight governed by a set of rules and stay conscious. So, once again, my money's on the big black guy.

user-removed - Member
That's called a leg kick. In mma it's not a surprise.
Well. You tell me when it's coming and call it a surprise.

I don't believe for one second that a person can fight governed by a set of rules and stay conscious. So, once again, my money's on the big black guy.

Come back Chewkw, all is forgiven

I don't believe for one second that a person can fight governed by a set of rules and stay conscious. So, once again, my money's on the big black guy.

lol

"Ah, casual racism

He's Irish and fights so he must be a gypsy eh?"

Well. I'm Scottish and I enjoy a bit of a barney as it happens. I suspect my Irish friends feel the same.

The fact that I usually end up face-down on the pavement, missing teeth has no bearing on the conversation.

The fact that I usually end up face-down on the pavement, missing teeth has no bearing on the conversation.

Repeated blows to the head may explain some things.

Indeed. I didn't start the fire. Aberdeen soccer casuals did. Every single night out was marred by football types after a fecht.

Some of them had knives. All of them had fists.

My surprise right leg pré-dated MCconner's.

Mayweather is the slimiest slipperiest boxer ever.... if you watch his previous fights he is almost impossible to actually hit and connect with in any meaningful way. This is the problem for McGregor, and I think his camp will have spent the entire time coming up with an attack style that is so unorthodox it will be almost bizarre. I think surprising Mayweather with some totally weird attack is McGregor's only possible chance to win. McGregor simply cannot beat him using traditional techniques.

slimiest slipperiest boxer ever.... if you watch his previous fights

This. All day long. He's unconventional, as is McGregor. This us exactly why it'll be an interesting battle.

McGregor sparring Van Heerden gives a good idea of Mcgregors style. I don't expect him to charge in.

Good lord McGregor looks painfully slow and open to attack in that video. It looks like Van Heerden is taking it easy and trying to help him!

It's over a year old and very light spar. Neither looks to be taking is seriously

Van Heerden is currently 27th in the world and was handling him comfortably.

Mayweather is far more accurate and virtually impossible to hit with anything big.

Watch interviews of boxers who've fought Mayweather. It's only afterwards they realise just how frustrating it is, because it's nigh on impossible to land anything, and they keep getting tagged in return.

Much as it pains me to say it (Floyd is an absolute arsehole) he will ruin Connor. I reckon he'll make a show of it (PPV!) but I have zero doubt he could put him away in the first if he wanted to.

wrecker - Member
...but I have zero doubt he could put him away in the first if he wanted to.

That i very much doubt, if mayweather tries to fight McGregor I suspect it'll be a lot less one sided than it should be. Mayweather hasn't "fought" in a long time but he has beaten a lot of people all the same.

McGregor knows how to fight, what makes this a joke* is that isn't what Mayweather does, he's an excellent boxer but he's not a fighter. In the ring, under rules, Mayweather has out boxed plenty of people who fight better than he does and box very well too, McGregor only does one of those two things.

So long as Mayweather is allowed to box it should be just another day at work for him and his to loose. If he tries to fight, or gets complacent I imagine McGregor will hurt him, though maybe still not enough to win.

He's KO'd more than half of his opponents including a great many world (or former) champions. All of whom are a lot harder to hit than Connor. The difference in skill here should not be underestimated, a skill that floyd has been practicing at the highest level for over 20 years and that connor has recently taken up.
I'd love to think that Connor has a chance, as a human being he's a lot easier to like than floyd is.

as a human being he's a lot easier to like than floyd is.

So is a dalek to be honest 🙂

BoardinBob - Member

He started boxing at age 12, and was all Ireland champion. At 16 he switched to martial arts.

Where did you read this? on a MMA web page?? the same type of web pages that point to McGregors great boxing skills based on his win over Nate Diaz ... and you really need to watch that to see Conors boxing skills!!! all he can throw is 2 punch combo`s at best.

Whilst his old amateur coach says he attended the amateur boxing club, and had one or two fights on small local shows, the coach also is on record as saying he lost interest with boxing fairly quickly ... and if you have ever watched school boy amateur boxing its very often windmilling with very little skill ... not the best background to go up against a former world champion.

People are mentioning Floyds lack of punch power - but whilst he may not have the artillery to cleanly KO Mcgregor ... he most definitely has the power to get a TKO.

All this talk of mcgregors accuarace and power..

Why do you possibly think that Canelo, Del La Hoya, mosely, pac man etc etc didn't have accuracy and power? Being able to punch is a pretty big reqirement in being a boxer after all

As for the comments about boxers not cutting weight..perhaps google canelos ring weigh when he fought floyd..

Ok.

Money where mouth is time....AKA just a bit of fun.

I propose a wager. If Conor wins, then all those saying he has no chance are banned from STW for a week (midnight Sunday 27th till midnight Sunday 3rd), and if Floyd wins, then all those backing McGregor take a little holiday.

Anyone on the fence and wants to play, then just pick a side 🙂

So far, if I may be so bold I have:

[b][u]Conor FTW:[/u][/b]

Me (I think he'll lose, but have put money on him, so might as well double down 8) )

[b][u]Floyd FTW:[/u][/b]

Lodders
JY
BoardinBob

Add me to the Floyd list

(But I have a feeling were in for a shock)

Surely the wager should reflect the odds? I.e. Those backing Floyd should have a years "holiday", should he lose! 🙂

McGregor looks painfully slow

Aye he does.Frustratingly so. Annoyingly so. Sticking out that long left arm and then, BAM, there's the right.

No hurry.

Surely the wager should reflect the odds? I.e. Those backing Floyd should have a years "holiday", should he lose!

Interesting.

Although I am not sure some big hitters could take that amount of time of arguing on the internet.

I'll take those odds other Jamie. Imho, there's not a chance in Hell (can I say Hell here) that McConner can win under these circumstances.

I mean. Here's a guy who's learned to defend himself with all the corners of his bony body.

Stick him in a ring with a head full of rules and regs and we'll see what happens.

Been looking at some of McGreggors recent Insta pics, he certainly looks like a boxer now. He's worked incredibly hard.

Although I am not sure some big hitters could take that amount of time of arguing on the internet.

Never heard of mum's net? (Actually don't think they'd survive).

I'll go for Mayweather, rather than a hiatus though I'll wager you a beer* Jamie as i think timing means I'll be having one anyhow.

I have no follow through, so will probably have forgotten all about it by the weekend.

Hope conor does it my money's on him anyway

Add me to Team Floyd FTW - despicable person but just cannot see McGregor landing anything to make a difference. Floyd's like Neo, he can damn-near slip a bulley. 🙂

Sure I read that AJ is open to the idea of fighting someone from MMA on a no submissions basis. That'd be more interesting. 🙂

We know what the verdicts going to be, but if McGregor puts him on his arse the boxing world will be turned upside down. Come on lad!

I couldn't bet against McGregor, it would be unpatriotic and a betrayal of the martial arts 🙂

I had money on him as soon as the betting lines came up on William Hill. I don't believe that he will actually win, a boring decision loss or late tko seems more likely but I can visualize several ways that he can engage Floyd.

Not sure I'll take a week off posting. As someone else pointed out Mayweather is a "certainty" so it's not a fair bet.

I propose a wager. If Conor wins, then all those saying he has no chance are banned from STW for a week (midnight Sunday 27th till midnight Sunday 3rd), and if Floyd wins, then all those backing McGregor take a little holiday.

How can I say told you so if you are not here?

Mcgregor actually looking ok in videos I've seen. Hes clearly not a bad boxer im the grand scheme of things

If this was against someone for the british title I'd think he'd have a chance, but he wouldn't be the favourite

Now look at it the other way.. the current british Light Middle champ is a chap named Liam wiliams as I recall. Would anyone honestly give him a prayer if he fought Mayweather.

As with any sport , its all about levels. Showing you can compete against a complete non punching washed up ex fringe word class fighter in sparring bears absolutly no relation whatsoever to taking on what is IMO one of the top ten PFP fighters of all time, and certainly in the top 3 of the past 25 years.

People seem to think that his unorthodox style is going to cause Mayweather problems. If unorthodox styles meant you could beat top boxers we'd have had many more unorthodox world champs..and mcgregor is no Prince nas after all.

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

Good mullet though 🙂

and definetly unorthodox right up to not knowing how to punch

Brilliant. 🙂

Edit - to TPBiker's vid, not checked Jamie's yet.

I think surprising Mayweather with some totally weird attack is McGregor's only possible chance to win.

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Used to love that film. 🙂

Mayweather must be happy with McGregors promo skills. Of course he nicked them from Floyd anyway!

Just caught up on the All Access stuff. They're pitching it as Conor training his arse off and Floyd messing around with family stuff and not really training or taking it seriously 😆

Presumably just to balance it out and make it feasible that Connor isn't going to get beaten very quickly.

I'd say in 99 out 100 versions of fight Floyd would win. I suspect how quickly depends on if he wants to keep boxing's reputation vaguely intact (ie win quickly) or wants to string it out for money/possible 'rematch' potential.

this is what usually happens to unorthodox boxers..:-)

Quite an interesting back story about that bloke.

[url= https://www.si.com/boxing/brian-sutherland-worst-boxer-ever-youtube-video ]https://www.si.com/boxing/brian-sutherland-worst-boxer-ever-youtube-video[/url]

As much as I'd like to see Conor win - I just can't ever imagine him winning. So it's Floyd FTW

Every scenario is an easy win for Floyd.
1. If decides to make a statement; he can easily get a 1st rnd TKO.
2. If wants to humiliate Conor; he can hit him from pillar to post ... and get the TKO mid rounds.
3. If he wants a rematch he allows Conor to last till late rounds by doing very little.

I go with option 2

There was a bit in the Mayweather v Alvarez fight where Canelo had been swinging at empty air for the 300th time in a row, and he just paused, visibly sighed then tried for the 301st time in vain.

Find the recent Berto interview where he talks about how hard it is to touch Floyd.

He's the master at not taking risks. He's not going to do an Aldo and sprint from the opening bell.

I can see Conor trying a Maidana type approach. Up close, overhand rights, trying to rough him up. By the 3rd round Floyd takes over and scores his way to a wide UD.

I reckon it'll go eight rounds . . . McGregor will KO Mayweather. There's gonna be punches raining in from places that Mayweather doesn't know exist - watch out for that vicious backhand.

McGregor is hungry for it, whereas it's just a cash-cow for Mayweather.

watch out for that vicious backhand.

and the subsequent disqualification.

BoardinBob - Member

I can see Conor trying a Maidana type approach. Up close, overhand rights, trying to rough him up. By the 3rd round Floyd takes over and scores his way to a wide UD.

I think by round three we'll be lucky if there's been a punch thrown in anger, a lengthy feeling out process would seem more likely with Floyd trying to get an idea of McGregor's speed and his reactions to feints and Conor trying to do the same to Floyd.

Ultimate surrender.