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Hi there is a group of us going camping near coniston this weekend, just wondering if there is anywhere in coniston that would be likely to show the fight.
fight?
I'm not sure that's the right word for it...
Enjoy the camping, and watch the [i]highlights[/i] the next day.
Who? Nevererdovem.
you do know the fight will be about 5am. aye?
Jamie's advice is correct.
Just watch one of the inevitable shaky facebook live streams on your phone like the rest of us
We watched the AJ Klitschko fight in Ambleside and plenty of folk had come over from Coniston. Taxis back were a bit limited.
Best of luck!
I'm not sure that's the right word for it...
Tickling competition?
Just avoid it and wait for GGG vs Canelo instead. A proper fight!!!
just wondering if there is anywhere in coniston that would be likely to show the fight.
It's likely to be on *VERY* late/early (depending on how you look at it) so I doubt anywhere'll be staying open for it? The main event doesn't even start until 4am so it'll likely to be 5am before the fight starts. And it'll be 5.01am when McGregor is put on his arse.
tomhoward - Member
fight?
I'm not sure that's the right word for it...Tickling competition?
Boxing match. If it was a fight Conor would tear him limb from limb while waving to the crowd.
Mayweather won
it was a defensive masterclass
Connor got schooled
Not much happened
Won on points
Your welcome
Junkyard - lazarusMayweather won
it was a defensive masterclass
Connor got schooled
Not much happened
Won on pointsYour welcome
You must have bet the house then?
And it'll be 5.01am when McGregor is put on his arse.
Can't see that myself, surely it'll be a bit like a bull fight? Designed so there can really only be one winner unless something goes wrong, largely a spectacle of watching a big [s]animal[/s] bloke get slowly tortured and worked over until the inevitable happens.
That or McGregor is going to get angry about getting hit really hard and not really being able to fight back, loose composure, and in a few moments of not boxing, break mayweather very badly.
I may be wrong of course but it rarely helps to be the best hockey player on the rugby field.
(I should point out, I'm working on the theory this is all about the money, that's why McGregor is doing it, there's a lot more money in boxing, given he's in it for the money if McGregor was a good boxer that's what he would be doing all the time)
And to answer the op, live stream if you can be bothered waiting up, personally i wouldn't, just watch the highlights.
at odds of 4/1 on when connor is 49/1 surely its you that should be taking this great opportunity for wealth enhancementYou must have bet the house then?
I dont bet but if i did i would bet loads on Mayweather as its as close to a certainity as you can get
I actually favour loss by disqualification - say connor "winning" but breaking the rules - so we can have this [s]farce [/s]fight all over again as it is just about the money
Its not a sporting contest anymore than the all Blacks taking on the Superbowl winners at Rugby would be a contest. Granted boxing is one sport when you can get lucky and win but Mayweather is the best defensive boxer currently so that is remote. Plenty of better fighters have tried to knock his block off unsuccessfully and I see no reason to think a less skilled opponent will manage it.
Mayweather won
it was a defensive masterclass
Connor got schooled
Not much happened
Won on pointsYour welcome
Quoted....for y'know. Just in case 8)
We shall see but i dont even really think he has a fighters chance in the traditional sense of the word
He may get lucky but i just cannot see it personally
of ll the boxer to KO with a lucky punch you dont start with Mayweather
Khan , the glass chinned wonder, is my advice 😉
For me, the only way it is going to last more than a round is if Mayweather decides to style it out and put on a show, which he may well do as he knows it is about the money and if he wants any further pay days it wouldn't make financial sense to walk in there and flatten McConnor inside the first minute which I am certain he could do if he wanted.
Junkyard - lazarusat odds of 4/1 on when connor is 49/1 surely its you that should be taking this great opportunity for wealth enhancement
I don't profess to known what's going to happen, or certainly don't feel that I can predict it with the certainty of others.
I dont bet but if i did i would bet loads on Mayweather as its as close to a certainity as you can get
It's almost as if you're ignoring the chance of free money. Strange.
Its not a sporting contest anymore than the all Blacks taking on the Superbowl winners at Rugby would be a contest.
A flawed analogy like all the other Sport a vs Sport B analogys because only combat sports have knockouts.
johndohwalk in there and flatten McConnor inside the first minute which I am certain he could do if he wanted.
Jesus Christ.
If it was a fight Conor would tear him limb from limb while waving to the crowd.
but it's not, so your point is a bit moot, no? I'm sure McGregor will give it a go, and fair play, if he lands a couple on Mayweather most folk will be pretty impressed.
A flawed analogy like all the other Sport a vs Sport B analogys because only combat sports have knockouts.
Maybe try MMA vs Tai Chi then.
Outcome is exactly the same as is likely here.
(Except, obviously, the other way around, point being playing by the wrong rules rarely does anyone any favors)
I don't profess to known what's going to happen, or certainly don't feel that I can predict it with the certainty of others.
I agree 😉
It's almost as if you're ignoring the chance of free money. Strange
It's almost as if you're ignoring my answer. Strange
A flawed analogy like all the other Sport a vs Sport B analogys because only combat sports have knockouts
and you said my answer was weak 😛
And Mayweather has been knocked out how many times exactly?
And MMA has submissions so that cannot work either.
I get the point that you will only change your view if i bet everything i own on the outcome which is clearly a rational position to maintain and not at all setting the bar too high
As i said on the other threads I have done a bit of both and there is no way an MMA fighter stands a chance against a pure boxer [ assuming same skill level and Mayweather is probably a better boxer than Connor is MMA ist [ though he is exceptional] and the only people arguing otherwise are folk who dont understand boxing or MMA.
I dont have time to educate you all ,so you believe[ or wait], and we can chat after the fight about what happened.
Plenty here for me to be either gloating or stuffing my face on humble pie
stuffing my face on humble pie
Is that fully encased in pastry or does it qualify for the shepherds' exception?
It will need to be a minimum of double crust and quite possibly triple crust
Might even get a GIF from Jamie
people are actually going to watch this farce?
people are actually going to watch this farce?
Yup.
It's just a bit of fun.
...and it helps Floyd pay off his tax bill.
everyone but the boxing fans 😉
It'll last a reasonable length of time as Mayweather doesn't take risks. But there will only be one winner, either late stoppage or easy points for Mayweather. If Canelo, Pacquiao, Hatton etc couldn't land a single meaningful shot in 34 rounds, then McGregor doesn't stand a chance.
I'm interested to know why MMA fans seem to think Mayweather would be killed to death in seconds if it was an MMA fight. Do you think Mayweather is completely incapable of learning new tricks
because the fight would consist of this
1. Kick his knee
2. Take him down
3. Tap him out
the reason is the same as this way round [b]its a different skill set needed for each art[/b]
Trust me I have done MMA and i faced a boxer and the boxer tried MMA
the results are very very predictable
Some of those fighting were vastly more skilled than i am and he was a decent amateur level boxer with a few pro fights
You cannot hit them cleanly and everything else you can do is not allowed
For a boxer doing MMA all your skills are negated by the MMA keeping too far a distance between you and still being able to both kick you and take you to the ground to win comfortably.
Mayweather would last about a minute tops in MMA even after a years training with someone of Connors skill level at MMA. He would have even less chance than Connor and in that fight scenario I will bet my house
He wouldn't be killed, just kicked, taken down and submitted pretty quickly.. he wouldn't be able to learn enough of the various disciplines in one training camp..
Assuming that they are both fighting to boxing rules...
Mayweather will prove too skillful for McGregor. McGregor will find himself suffering from the restriction to a reduced skill base.
Mayweather will win by points (more likely) or a knockout (possibly).
If McGregor were fighting Mayweather in his pomp, it would go about two rounds.
Selah.
It's a shame that floyd even signed up for this nonsense. Although he just sees it as an easy payday I guess.
He is a truly magnificent boxer. The argument as to whether he would last a minute in a mma fight is what should be argued on junior school playgrounds everywhere. Anyone with half a brain shouldn't even engage in that sort of crap.
And McGregor won't even land a clean shot on floyd, unless he lets him to keep the crowd hyped. And even if he did, he has a good chin, he's just way too skilled to ever let anyone get anywhere near testing it out.
I won't be watching it seems a foregone conclusion. Mayweather is not easy to KO or hit in the first place. Will be like the Vitali Klitschko vs Samuel Peter fight, a boxing lesson for McGregor.
Mayweather love him or hate him is a force of nature. Reminds me of a large predatory fish! Opportunistic hunters that waste as little energy as possible, only striking when an opportunity is in range of their senses, decisively finishing prey in seconds, then back to doing very little.
They have to make it close,may even get together and arrange for mayweather to touch a glove to the canvas one time,its all about that rematch,mind you mcgregors fitness was appalling in the diaz fights,no way he could last 36 minutes.
26/08/2017
The Day Boxing Died.
8)
Mayweather is a massive favourite and a classy boxer. I don't see McGregor getting close enough to him to do anything meaningful, but there's just this nagging doubt at the back of my mind that there's just something about McGregor and his self confidence that gives him the ability to achieve what most right minded people think is beyond him.
Like I say, if I were having a meaningful bet on this I'd say Mayweather on points, but like McGregor is doing taking this fight, I might just take a punt and see what happens.
P-Jay - MemberI'm interested to know why MMA fans seem to think Mayweather would be killed to death in seconds if it was an MMA fight. Do you think Mayweather is completely incapable of learning new tricks
loddrikThe argument as to whether he would last a minute in a mma fight is what should be argued on junior school playgrounds everywhere. Anyone with half a brain shouldn't even engage in that sort of crap.
Unfortunately the majority of people believe McGregor is little more than a "cage fighter" or some kind of tough man. Some kind of brawler. Even knowledgeable boxers, people who have been cited as credible voices have mentioned that they expect he will use groin kicks or resort to headbutts (because they believe that's his background).
Offline almost every casual fan or chat I've had has been utterly, utterly clueless (outside of the gym).
So to P-Jay, Brazilian Jiujitsu, wrestling and kickboxing are not tricks. They are technical skillsets that take as long to learn as boxing and they all negate boxing. Even a whitebelt in bjj would take Floyd down, hold him down easily, then break his limbs or choke him unconscious although he'd probably panic tap as soon as he got taken down.
I've a couple of bets on it and all for a mac win, it's win win for him he can't lose
how does he win if he loses?
Do you mean its a great pay day whatever happens?
I dont think either fighters legacy is going to be enhanced by this "fight"
Yes he said the nate fight set his family up for life this dwarves that. Lose like everyone expects and he never has to fight again. Win and well who knows
Oh - is McGregor fighting to MMA rules?
Everything says Mayweather should win. He's never lost, he's the GOAT, incredible defensive boxer.... On the other hand McGregor is younger, is bigger, longer reach and has something about him. There's no way in hell he should win, but if he did, I wouldnt be that surprised.
I used to practice various martial arts in my youth and joined a boxing gym, mainly for the brilliant training regime. The guy that ran it thought I had some promise (which was nice of him) and convinced me to get in the ring and spar. As soon as those boxing gloves were on and the rules were laid out I was done for. It was embarrassing and frustrating in equal measure. Very, very different when you can't grab, kick, lock or elbow 😥
At least it should be more entertaining than when Ali fought that Muay Thai guy.
Hopefully Mayweather will destroy him, so this nonsense never happens again. But I suspect the whole thing might be rigged and more like something from WWE.
It'd be a better fight if McGregor was allowed to kick, i imagine it'd be over within one round.
(i know it's joe rogan above but the power of those kicks - jeez 😯 )
it will have the same level of farce but with less actual fighting
(i know it's joe rogan above but the power of those kicks - jeez )
Joe Rogan can kick.
I've watched a vid of Joe Rogan kicking another fighter clean across a boxing ring and over the ropes but i can't find it anywhere, i know he sometimes sounds like a "typical Bro" but he can certainly back up his bro talk with action
Mcgregor boxed 12 rounds with Malinaggi and came on strong in the last 2, must have been working on his cardio as said above he gassed out against Diaz.
If McGregor lasts til the end its a victory of sorts. Mcgregor has got amazing power and precision in his left hand but Floyd is so difficult to hit.
Its on radio 5 for above poster who is camping.
Even knowledgeable boxers, people who have been cited as credible voices have mentioned that they expect he will use groin kicks or resort to headbutts
Obviously they not that knowledgeable because there is a clause in the contract which states McGregor losing the purse if he resorts to such tactics.
It's merely a show for the clueless armchair MMA fans. Floyd wins this as he pleases; only uncertainty is if he knocks McGregor out in the first rnd - or lets it go till the later rounds to sell a rematch as MMA rules ... for even more money.
It's merely a show for the clueless armchair MMA fans.
Good shout. And when McGregor gets schooled they can take solace in telling anyone who will or more likely won't listen that 'Mayweather wouldn't last 10 seconds in an MMA fight' blah blah blah....
I definitely won't be watching because
1. I couldn't give a toss about McGregor. He shouldn't be anywhere near a professional boxing ring. He should have to do the miles in the amateur ranks like everyone else.
2. Floyd really shouldn't be lowering himself to this level, although he is earning big money. It is a missmatch on a ridiculous scale.
3. I love boxing, it deserves better than this.
It can produce things like this...
Oh my god so salty, so bitter. Now I'm starting to see where all this blatant misinformation is coming from - the entire legitimacy of boxing is at stake here. If McGregor even goes the distance the jig is up and the genie is out of the bottle. MMA fighters have skill and aren't just brawlers/thugs etc
Original too 😆
ad hom shoot the messengerOh my god so salty, so bitter.
Now I'm starting to see where all this blatant misinformation is coming from
what misinformation?why dont you just correct it with facts
Its had greater lows than this [ have you seen the Olympics and the scandals there ?]but i dont think anyone has said this- the entire legitimacy of boxing is at stake here.
what genie exactly? that MMA fans will find out Mayweather outboxes folk and wins on points - plenty here predicting it goes the distance . I get your scorn I dont know what point you are trying to make here.If McGregor even goes the distance the jig is up and the genie is out of the bottle.
True however they are not capable of outboxing the greatest defensive boxer of his generation and none of them can win world titles at boxing.MMA fighters have skill and aren't just brawlers/thugs etc
I am not sure what you find so controversial about the later statement could you explain ?
My guess is some sort draw, or controversial loss, ready for re-match, after all it's about the money, right?
Think boxing and MMA die hards are making too much of this. It's entertainment. I doubt it'll be a classic, but it's going to be interesting none the less.
You can't blame McGregor for wanting this. He's never going to earn this sort of money in UFC. The fights only happening because Mayweather needs the money.
Mayweather's got a slice of the advertising spend apparently so it ain't going to finish too early.
I've seen the sparring with malignalli and it looked ok to me..
The funny thing is most boxing fans tune in to Mayweather fights to see him lose as he's such an unlikeable and boring fighter.
Now they're having to support him as the alternative is to see boxing collapse in on itself.
*cue boxing fans posting to say they watched his fights for the excitement*
Mayweather needs the money.
Erm, no he don't!!!!!
Junkyard - lazaruswhat misinformation?why dont you just correct it with facts
I was referring to people like Lennox Lewis implying McGregor will resort to kicks when he realises he can't outbox Mayweather, or Jim Gray saying McGregor is more used to knees to the groin, fingers in the eyes and getting kicked in the head in "the mma".
what genie exactly? that MMA fans will find out Mayweather outboxes folk and wins on points - plenty here predicting it goes the distance . I get your scorn I dont know what point you are trying to make here.
Genie re the casual viewers who abandoned boxing pay per views. Boxing has had an ok year but even in a down year for the UFC they are still getting 600-800,000 ppv buys every month. This fight will have more eyes on it than any other in history, if McGregor can even go the distance it's a moral victory for mma.
True however they are not capable of outboxing the greatest defensive boxer of his generation and none of them can win world titles at boxing.I am not sure what you find so controversial about the later statement could you explain ?
McGregor doesn't have to outbox (in technical terms) Mayweather. He has to survive 12 rounds. Even if Mcgregor has concocted a Machiavellian game plan which could actually see him winning he won't be trying to outbox Floyd in any traditional sense.
[quote=Jamie ]The funny thing is most boxing fans tune in to Mayweather fights to see him lose as he's such an unlikeable and boring fighter.
Now they're having to support him as the alternative is to see boxing collapse in on itself.
*cue boxing fans posting to say they watched his fights for the excitement*
How will this result , if he wins, make boxing collapse in on itself exactly?
They are definitely technically brilliant yet aesthetically dull as can be.
I dont care if he does lose tbh but I just cannot see it happening in this one. Its a show of a fight that has more appeal to MMA fans than Boxing ones we can read into that fact what we want.
loddrik - Member
Mayweather needs the money.
Erm, no he don't!!!!!
[url= http://uk.businessinsider.com/floyd-mayweather-taxes-2017-7 ]Yeah he does[/url]
Erm, no he don't!!!!!
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/10/floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-tax-bill-ufc-boxing ]Apparently he has a small tax bill he needs to sort out.[/url]
Will McGregor fight in UFC again? Seems like the seed is sewn for a Mallinaggi fight.
I'd love to see Mcgregor fight for his title a couple of times, but what are the UFC willing to pay him?
Time for embedded. For non UFC fans, on fight week there is a mini behind the scenes doc everyday on YT.
best three rounds of boxing hs got to be haggler v hearns eh?
the boxer in me says notorious has no chance against pretty much the best boxer i have seen but....... mcgregor has timing and power and is worth a bet in the first four rounds.
i love mma and boxing. floyd has been rocked a few times in his career and has brittle hands hence the style change a few years back but he can bang too. interesting fight i say
Exactly Tony. In combat sports you've always got a chance no matter how slim.
Thing is we are all assuming that Mayweather is the same fighter, but he's not fought for 2 years.
We all assume we know what's going to happen in this fight, but the interest for me is seeing just what does happen.
I think McGregor wins. I think it will be over in two to three.
Mcgregor isn't going to take a traditional boxing stance, he'll be very loose, and very quick in and out, almost adopting a karate stance. Mayweather won't have dealt with anything like it in his life.
I think McGregor walks forward, and If Mayweather walks forward too, it won't last a round, either way. If Mayweather tries to walk backwards, and soak it up I don't think he handles McGregor's power. Boxers don't cut weight like MMA fighters. Mayweather walks round at 150 / 152. McGregor walks round at 170. that is a huge difference in the ring.
Is McGregor doing this because he really doesn't want to go back and have to fight that khabib guy(or isn't he as good as people say?),is McGregor more or less retiring from ufc now? tho in fairness to McGregor he does seem willing to fight whoever whenever.
Is McGregor doing this because he really doesn't want to go back and have to fight that khabib guy(or isn't he as good as people say?),is McGregor more or less retiring from ufc now?
Conor is doing this because of the amount of money he is going to get. It's that simple.
Assuming this Mayweather fight wasn't on the table, the reason Conor won't fight Khabib is that he is too flakey. He's not going to commit to promoting a PPV when there is every chance Khabib is going to not make weight or get injured.
If Khabib can be more reliable, I reckon a fight in Russia would interest Conor, as it would be quite a large payday.
The problem is it'll never be near to the money earned in this Mayweather fight. Not sure what else would. Maybe a rematch? What it does mean is that Conor could decide to retire, as he's set for life, but I think given the person he is he won't. No idea whether it'll be another weird fight like this, maybe against Paul Malignaggi, or against someone like GSP if he beats Bisping later this year.
In summary. **** knows.
I'm not going to try and call it but I can't see Mayweather knocking McGregor out.
Mayweather isn't knocking anyone out.
You can take that to the bank.
...although it would be hilarious if he did. Probably break his hand in the process.
I think McGregor wins. I think it will be over in two to three.Mcgregor isn't going to take a traditional boxing stance, he'll be very loose, and very quick in and out, almost adopting a karate stance. Mayweather won't have dealt with anything like it in his life.
I think McGregor walks forward, and If Mayweather walks forward too, it won't last a round, either way. If Mayweather tries to walk backwards, and soak it up I don't think he handles McGregor's power. Boxers don't cut weight like MMA fighters. Mayweather walks round at 150 / 152. McGregor walks round at 170. that is a huge difference in the ring.
mikey3 - MemberIs McGregor doing this because he really doesn't want to go back and have to fight that khabib guy
For Khabib to even be mentioned in the same discussion as McGregor he has to demonstrate that he can make 155 and not almost die from kidney failure (which has happened twice now), and he has an ability to show up for three fights in a row. He'll also have to beat Tony Ferguson, Kevin Lee and probably another LW challenger to build a fan base big enough to make him relevant.
(or isn't he as good as people say?)
His wresting, take downs and top control are excellent but his standup is pretty shonky. He has a tendency to run face first into strikes. Not ideal against say - Conor McGregor.
is McGregor more or less retiring from ufc now? tho in fairness to McGregor he does seem willing to fight whoever whenever.
Allegedly he has an agreement with the UFC that he'll return for at least one more fight.
loddrik - Member
Didn't you say you were done with this till after the fight? Some people just can't help themselves 8)
Logic and experience suggests Floyd should win this with ease. He is the master boxer.
But anything could happen. I'll be sitting up to watch it. I'm a massive combat sports fan so it's definitely intriguing and it should at least be entertaining (for a Floyd fight)

