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All 4 corners are due soon. Seeing as they're well regarded in the MTB world, are their current crop of car tyres worth considering? (most info seems to be a few years old now)
For reference: usually run Vredstein 4S tyres, around 20k miles per year on a mixture of A road and motorway, very early morning commute in Scotland. Recommendations welcome, can't spare Michelin money unfortunately.
I can't comment on Maxxis but Goodyear EfficientGrip would be worth a look - I've found them to be very good.
I had them on a Kia Soul a few years ago and they were fine IIRC.
Got some of their all seasons offerings on my van. Wear is great but I definately noticed a few % MPG penalty from the normal treads it had when I bought it. I assume other manufacturers all seasons types would show a similar penalty, so yeah, I'd buy them again.
I've had them, they were very good, can't recall what model, but they were quite like my current Michelin cross climates in terms of pattern.
I put the cross climate ones on the missus Aygo, and they transformed the handling, it was a death trap before. So yes recommended they were also relatively cheap!
We were motocross Maxxis dealers for years and I used their tyres on 4x4s and the work van. I did it to promote the brand in the early days but to be honest they didn't last very long, especially the van ones. Like everything, they'll have improved over the years but there's probably better for cheaper.
OK, as others have also mentioned the all seasons versions, mine are called All Seasons AP2. IIRC they were about £30 cheaper each corner than the Michelin's
There you go, started the post before dinner and finished after, a few present day experiences now. I stand corrected, they obviously have improved.
Had them on my motorbike and they were excellent in all conditions,so dont see why the car tyres would be any less good.
Anyone else read "maxxis" and remember this perfect example of an utterly mental thread?
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/that-maxxis-babes-calendar-article/
Nice though that the debate seems so ridiculous nowadays 🙂
I’ve got the all season AF2’s I think - they’re great in erm all seasons.
They’re snow rated too which is handy for um snow 😃
Thanks everyone. Sounds like they can remain on the list to be considered.
IIRC they were about £30 cheaper each corner than the Michelin’s
Exactly, £130 saving cannot be sniffed at.
I did it to promote the brand in the early days but to be honest they didn’t last very long
That remains my one concern - a high wear rate that leads to a false economy. But as you mention, you'd hope improvements have been made since.
No experience of their car tyres but my work tried to save costs on tyres for our vans by switching from Michelins to other, cheaper manufacturers. They weren't looking for grip rates or fuel economy (we have telematics for that) purely wear rates and cost per mile. We had vans fitted with fresh sets from all the main names and there was a massive difference. Michelin and Goodyear lasted the best while Hankook and Cooper/Avon were the worst. Well, apart from Maxxis. They lasted just over 7K on one van and 8K on the other, the next worst were 13.5k. The Maxxis tyres worked out at over double the cost of Michelins per mile! We now use Goodyears with Michelin or Bridgestone as alternatives if stocks are low.
I ran a set of MA-P1's on my old Civic, IIRC they lasted some ridiculous amount of miles, 30k I think? Possibly more.
Wear rate, as always, is dependant on what you are running them on and the loads placed on them.
I have had Copper Allseason (sh*te grip in summer and wore oddly), Hankook 4s (very good), Vredestien Allyear somethings (wore out quickly) and Maxxis AP2 (noisy, very noisy, more a full winter tyre) and now have Michelin CrossClimates and they beat everything else for grip, noise and wear.
I had a set of Maxxis on the car until January, - the tyres were only 4 years old, maybe 20k on them. The car failed the MOT as 3 tyres had developed deep cracks in the inner side walls. Never had this happen before on a relatively 'new' tyres.
Minions on the rear, High Rollers on the front obvs...
Maxxis make good MTB tyres but rubbish car tyres. If you’re looking for cheap tyres that grip reasonably well then Toyo T1Rs are decent enough; they’ve been used as the control wet tyre for quite a few race series and I used them as my wet tyre when I used to race.
JP
Good track tyres don't necessarily translate to the road. From memory Toyos wear pretty fast and have a nasty habit of flinging any stones they drive over. I never had them but plenty of the Civic crowd did and the reports were always the same.
Had some MA-Z1 on a 350z once, the rears lasted about 45 minutes. Which was pretty good going on that car.