I would think that when if public inquiry is allowed to look into PPE contracts, thats going to be a pretty hotly contested title.
Very much this.
But, inevitably, unfortunately.... even more so.....
And for that reason, I’m sure thats its remit will fall short of looking into that
They will fight it, emasculate it and push the 'Got Vaccines Done' three word slogan aggressively.
And enough people will swallow it.
Sigh.
How about we all email our Tory MPs and say how disgusted we are and is this the sort of behaviour that will make Britain great again. Come over all gammon as I'm sure they will care more about that than some lefty cyclist.
How about we all email our Tory MPs and say how disgusted we are and is this the sort of behaviour that will make Britain great again. Come over all gammon as I’m sure they will care more about that than some lefty cyclist.
No one else sees it. They'll ignore it.
Weather the storm, push out some lies, wait a week, job jobbed.
They will fight it, emasculate it and push the ‘Got Vaccines Done’ three word slogan aggressively.
I can already write the inquiry report:
- "unexpected" and unprepared --> recommend to create a new emergency planning and reliance agency; will hire a load of people getting paid £100k a year to discuss possible plans, for possible scenarios, and headed by some senior risk managers from the banking sector or perhaps retiring army big wigs.
- blame will be passed to: previous governments, ministers, advisors, civil servants and the media - the current cabinets, CMO, CSA, Sage etc will all be held to have tried their best in difficult circumstances
- government ministers will be commended for trying to be creative and find solutions, by opening new procurement channels and removing regulatory barriers. Probably even recommending that there should be an even easier way to do this for any future crisis!
Well written. You could save them 5 years and 1,000s of man hours.
In the past chairs of these committees and inquiries used to be bothered that, if they whitewashed it for the government they would be accused of toadying and lose professional credibility.
Nowadays I imagine they are more concerned about being denounced as 'unpatriotic' by the government and end up with gangs of gammons burning effigies on their front lawn. Plus, if you know you're going to lose your professional credibility the offer of a nice job in charge of some quango or other is tempting.
Well written. You could save them 5 years and 1,000s of man hours.
The consultants wouldn't get their fee, though....
In the past chairs of these committees and inquiries used to be bothered that
Since when? They have always operated under rules which limit their effectiveness in almost every case. There are a few exceptions where those commissioning it werent involved originally so are happy to let them loose but generally its always been designed to be limited in impact.
A classic example is the Falklands war one.
Usually what has happened is that the first cover up inquiry is headed by someone whose name is indelibly associated with the whitewash. Widgery springs to mind. Often near the end of their career. Then, if there is enough outrage*, a second inquiry is announced and whoever chairs it stresses that they won't touch it if it is proscribed in the way that discredited the previous one. This second inquiry gets further towards the truth, but even if it does, it is usually decades down the line. See also the Warren Commission vs the House Committee on Assassinations or whatever it was called.
*There would never be enough outrage nowadays. Johnson will just lie, mumble something about 'getting something done', declare scrutiny to be unpatriotic, then ask you've all heard the one about the burka-wearing ventriloquist.
– government ministers will be commended for trying to be creative and find solutions, by opening new procurement channels and removing regulatory barriers. Probably even recommending that there should be an even easier way to do this for any future crisis!
Sir Matt Hancock 🙂
Is there an injunction on the (alleged) Gove story, or just no juicy pics to make it worth running?
Funny that you never get, say, the Sun reporting that a journalist at the Mail is carrying on with the intern or something similar? No journalist has ever been unfaithful?
Been pondering this
Gove is Murdochs man through & through, IF its true he's left his wife for a bloke I imagine the left wing tabloids bbc etc are wary of simply outing him out of vindictiveness.
But the Sun is pretty well controlled by murdoch & Gove is an ex journo
It also says to me there's no corruption angle anyones aware of, the way there was with Hancock.
Hancocks revelations followed on from his weakenig by Cummings leak
but Gove & Cummings very close (maybe not as close as rumours spread by Williamson when chief whip🙄)
I can see the RW press being keen to keep it quiet, at least until bately & spen election is over (Galloway using homophobia as a tool to help win over small c conservative voters there from Labour)
Tbf a minister leaving his wife for another man or woman shouldn't really be news, even tho I expect the tabloids would leap straight on a Labour MP
Rumour has it that Hancock was the dead cat to distract us from this - not totally convinced by that particular conspiracy theory
Which Gove story is true then?
Break up announced.
Yep they had to wait until after B&S byelection
Break up announced.
Request for privacy, eh?
https://twitter.com/brianmoore666/status/1411000302858350595
Brian Moore has it. Vine is such a hate spewing piece of work.
Gotta hand it to Gove
https://twitter.com/mikegove12/status/1411057872218296322?s=19
That he's been living with his aide has apparently been an open secret in Westminster for months
Now it's released immediately after B&s byelection and on a weekend when (whatever the score) Sunday front pages will be dominated by footy
Weird how the Mail doesn't seem to have the Gove/Vine story on the front page. I thought it would be right up their street.... 😆
If ever a post needed a Trigger Warning, I just tripped over this (from 2016):
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/my-husband-s-gay-affair-with-gove
"A few weeks ago I discovered that while he should have been focused on the fight of his life during the referendum campaign, David Cameron was instead obsessing over whether or not his justice secretary, Michael Gove, had had an affair with my husband, Dom Cummings, campaign director of Vote Leave."
Poor Hancock… it’s not enough that he lost his job, it he’s now being blamed for the by-election defeats as well.
What would be known as a super scapegoat. Was Brexit not going to plan his fault too?
gove was known to have a strong penchant for charlie
I see the press today are focusing on football and Gove, and not the call from the BMA to follow the data not dates when easing restrictions.....
What would be known as a super scapegoat
I did wonder how much they might have paid his aide for the right ‘result’ 🤭
Of course this is pure speculation for entertainment value only. Not to take away from the man’s many observable charms and/or sexy-time attributes (neither the aide’s good character)
Gove got aides?
Homes raided in inquiry into Matt Hancock CCTV leak
The UK press makes very free and easy use of 'anonymous sources' and although we're mostly supposed to imagine some shadowy Watergate 'Deepthroat' character ..... the reason sources are usually un-named is because if you knew who they were it would detract from the validity of story as its usually either a public relations consultant or just some general know-nothing or (as happened to a friend of mine who was unfairly smeared by a local paper) the 'source' is someone sitting at the next desk from the journalist writing the article who happens to feel a bit slighted.
I have very mixed feelings about the use of anonymous sources for stories but....
The Sun says an "angry whistleblower" first alerted it to the images.
But the newspaper's editor, Victoria Newton, has stated she would rather go to prison than reveal the leaker's identity.
On that basis alone I'm quite happy in this instance for the whistleblower's identity not to be revealed 🙂
Yup the Guardian editor grassed up "an angry whistleblower" and got Sarah Tisdall a six months prison sentence when threatened by a court.
Can't see the Sun's editor not doing the same when everyone knows that the Guardian occupies the lofty high moral ground.
they did clive ponting over as well did they not? disgusting behaviour
What crime has been committed here, anyone know?
What crime has been committed here, anyone know?
The cctv would count as personal identifiable information since its safe to be say they can be identified.
So be possible unlawful access to that and then unlawful sharing and variations along that theme.
I’m wondering if that was the only CCTV footage the ‘leaker’ has. Flushing them out might not be the best move politically.
If (when) they arrest someone, Mancock will be back in the headlines. When they inevitably get a ludicrously long sentence Mancock will be back in the headlines - neither will be in a good way for him or the party.
Happy to dob the perp/s a tenner for legal costs, if required and possible.
However, I hope Mancock gets let back into the inner circle as Defence sec. so some jolly wag can get the thick chopper to do a photo op in a Challenger.
If (when) they arrest someone, Mancock will be back in the headlines. When they inevitably get a ludicrously long sentence Mancock will be back in the headlines – neither will be in a good way for him or the party.
It will be great for the party if its on a day that Covid rates rocket, or deaths reach a significant number, or Boris's superinjunction runs out....
Johnson and Hancock back in happier times (when thousands were dying as they prepared to battle the boffins to save Christmas)…
Yup the Guardian editor grassed up “an angry whistleblower” and got Sarah Tisdall a six months prison sentence when threatened by a court.
After winning the first court case that was immediately overturned on appeal by the Attorney General. The editor of the Guardian was prepared to go to prison for not revealing his source, but was advised by lawyers that the likely punishment was going to be a large fine, that would increase the longer he refused to give up the name, faced with the possible bankruptcy and closure of the paper, and following the paper's stated policy at the time of always obeying the law; he gave the name to the court. Preston resigned immediately afterwards. Tisdall got sentenced to six months, served four
is the less obviously slanted story.
So it looks like they are prosecuting the whistleblowers - but taking no action over the actual law breaker they blew the whistle on.
Great.
What crime has been committed here, anyone know?
Misconduct in public office?
Oh, sorry you meant the data breach - well its either a covert surveillance system installed in a Whitehall office or someone leaked Personal Data from a UK Government server for commercial/political gain. Whilst it might seem OK that they leaked the sleezy ministers data, what if they had data on you that they just decide to give to the media? Who is the arbiter of when its in the public interest to give personal data to the Sun?
The cctv would count as personal identifiable information since its safe to be say they can be identified.
UK law has no concept of personally identifiable information - we have "Personal Data" - the two are subtly different, although in this case it is certainly Personal Data too; indeed its almost certainly "Special Category Personal Data" which has even higher requirements for processing/storing it.
So it looks like they are prosecuting the whistleblowers – but taking no action over the actual law breaker they blew the whistle on.
They are sending out a message load and clear here. This lot have got an awful lot to hide, so the last thing they want is whistleblowers.
Anyone of even thinking of going to the press with any dirt on ministers will have to think long and hard about doing so, watching this. And also that they are a law unto themselves anyway, so is it worth taking that risk when absolutely nothing will be done to them as a result of it.
Job jobbed!
Interesting, I only know some gdpr stuff, which isn't criminal AFAIK
can't imagine there's too much for this lot to be worried about, seems the senior Civil Service is pretty much part of the Cabal.
Good news - I'm sure the new ethics watchdog will be all over this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57860969
oh wait.
Nothing to see here - move along plebs.
This is the same bullingdon boys group who ripped up/burnt £50 notes in front of homeless beggars in the street?, the appointment is par for the course so I’m not surprised.
So what do we think of this?
"Government rules out searching Matt Hancock's private emails"
"The campaign group Good Law Project argued his inbox should be checked for the sake of transparency.
But the government rejected this, saying a sweep of emails was "neither necessary nor proportionate"."
It seems quite shocking to me that private email use relating to awarding of significant contracts is allowed to slide. What is being hidden?
It appears to me quite necessary in order to determine no wrongdoing has occurred and also proportionate as in using his personal email for government business he's implicitly broken the line between personal and professional, hence a search of personal emails seems reasonable.
Just crap isn't it - and an MP gets punished for pointing out the fact that the PM lied.
So what do we think of this?
“Government rules out searching Matt Hancock’s private emails”
With the amount of abuse going on in this government it would probably be an absolute can of worms for a whole lot of tory ministers.
Yep, imagine what other private email accounts Hancocks private email are going to. Get a view of his and you get a view of theirs.
WTAF is going on here!
Signed up to I'm a Celebrity... and had the whip suspended. Reported by the Guardian.
Why don't these people get on with the job they were elected to - represent their constituents!
Absolute farce and just add to the mounting evidence that Sunak is totally out of control of his party.
Yet more ammunition for Labour.
With the 24hr cameras we'll find out if he is Little Matty Handjob or not
😱
From throwing up a protective ring to throwing up an ostrich anus in just a matter of months. Life comes at you fast.
Another MP putting fame before constituents.....
There is atleast one other celebrity on the show that will likely rip into him on his record in government.
Could be... entertaining.
Why don’t these people get on with the job they were elected to – represent their constituents!
He's been busy writing a book as well about what a wonderful job he did during the pandemic...
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1587366422367215617?t=bBcPEbZHo6N3G6ravKThIQ&s=19
He will get absolutely battered on there.
He will get every single trial.
from Sky news -
Members of Matt Hancock's local Tory Party are less than pleased about his decision to fly to Australia to appear on I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!.
Andy Drummond, the deputy chairman of West Suffolk Conservative Association, told the PA news agency: "I'm looking forward to him eating a kangaroo's penis.
"Quote me. You can quote me [on] that."
And SNP MP Pete Wishart said: "It speaks volumes that Matt Hancock would rather be stranded in a remote jungle eating kangaroo testicles than spend a moment longer on the Tory benches at Westminster, as Rishi Sunak's government lurches from one crisis to another."
He will get absolutely battered on there.
He will get every single trial.
Yip! He’s about to discover that the good old British public are a vengeful and sadistic lot and he’s about to get one hell of a shoeing
I'm hoping they've devised some special trials:
Crawl through shit wearing inadequate PPE for 17 hours straight - reward is a round of applause and fewer rations for the camp.
Can the rugby guy pick him up and shove his head in a hornet's nest for an hour or two?
Just looked back at the records for Nadine Dorries on Celeb.
Although she was voted out first, she only did 2 trials.
just shows how toxic politics has become in the last 10 years,(or should that be how toxic the Tory has become) that it seems obvious that he will get every single one.
I guess he might even get kept in, so he can be subject to more trials.
and had the whip suspended
Just means that while he can't vote in the division lobbies... he's not a Tory MP.
Once he's out, and they want his vote again, he'll get the whip restored.
We've already had someone regain the whip, and, more bizarrely, become a minister after being on the show.
In the meantime... he needs to be in the public eye to sell his book this Christmas.
One wonders why Johnson has not been punished for being on holiday while parliament sits.
This is his chance to bring the British public together. I’m sure there will be a general reluctance to send him home early (but get no where near winning it) and a huge effort for him to take part in every single task.
I might have to watch it!
This is his chance to bring the British public together. I’m sure there will be a general reluctance to send him home early (but get no where near winning it) and a huge effort for him to take part in every single task.
I might have to watch it!
It's a double-edged sword though. Battling through endless revolting tasks stoically will actually improve his standing. Far better that he has one, truly awful event, breaks mentally and has to run away. Or is voted off immediately without even getting his shower scene.
You're all so uncharitable. I'm sure we're all about to see the real Matt Hancock, and all realise that our perceptions of the government and their ministers has been dreadfully clouded by the nasty things the press writes about them.
Ooh look, magic beans!
Would Tindall have access to a royal pardon if he were to drop kick the scrote into next week?
Hancock obviously came to the conclusion he’d have to wait for at least one more Tory PM before he got a government job again…
https://twitter.com/parody_pm/status/1584643344902549504?s=21
…might as well stay out of the way, make some cash, prepare the ground for a book tour when his book is released after the show.
Of all the diabolical and sometimes litteraly illegal things tory MPs have been up to for that last few years, one gets the whip removed for this??!!
I'll happily clap for a minute whilst he eats dingo's anus.
Hopefully a live dingo for added entertainment.... and teeth, lots of teeth
Would Tindall have access to a royal pardon if he were to drop kick the scrote into next week?
Finding a jury who would be willing to try the case without bias would be tricky.
Shows what he thinks of his constituents and loyalty to the party. Who would want to live in the West Suffolk constituency which gave hime a 23k majority? Might make them think, then again...
He's the new Lembit Öpik.
He’s the new Lembit Öpik.
Cheeky 😉
He’s the new Lembit Öpik.
Speaking of whom, he was on 5Live Drive earlier saying of course an MP should take time out to do reality TV, they work long hours, if people don't agree they don't have to watch it.
I'm not totally sure how the show works, but if the public vote could force him to eat Cock au Kangaroo every night and then evict him on the first vote, I'm good with that.
Even more trickle downs for Matt. Money from the telly whilst drawing his MP's salary, book out at Christmas and once he leaves Westminster he can call in all the PPE favours before they die, go bankrupt, run away. He can then canter off into the distance on a quadruped of the graminivorous variety.
I can't see his book troubling the best seller lists; likely that everyone on his christmas card list will be getting a signed copy - whether or not they want one.
What advance did his publisher pay?
If nothing, that's vfm; anything else is dead money.
