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For taste I prefer butter but I'm told it would be healthier to eat a low fat spread. And Benecol, is it a food or a medicine? Just pondering. Any opinions, STW? Links to actual science welcome.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:01 pm
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Lurpak, somewhere in between.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:02 pm
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Butter, just don't overdo it.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:02 pm
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Prefer Flora to everything else, not really a fan of butter tbh. Bertoli Olive Oil spread will do if there no Flora.

Probably cause some middle class horror with that statement mind you, but there ye go is what it is! 😆


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:03 pm
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Kerrygold butter for me (grassfed cows), margarine is the work of the devil and has no place in a healthy diet.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:06 pm
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What? Is this even a discussion?
Butter. And lots of it too.
Margarine is just horrible stuff.

margarine is the work of the devil and has no place in a healthy diet.

This.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:06 pm
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Benecol and the other cholesterol reducing spreads are snake oil, they can slightly reduce the level in your blood, but they don't reduce you chance of stroke / heart attack.

Personally I like Flora Buttery, well I say 'prefer' dairy gives me IBS so it's the best tasting non-dairy one I've found.

Mrs like Clover, it's about twice the cholesterol level of Flora.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:10 pm
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The short answer is "it's complicated."

Margarine doesn't exist in the UK though and hasn't done so for years if not decades. Modern low-fat spreads aren't margarine.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:12 pm
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Depends what you are doing with it.

On toast or in sandwiches then butter.

Margarine is as good (if not better) in cakes.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:12 pm
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Butter every time.

All margarine is the devils ejaculate


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:23 pm
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I think butter is overrated. Pure sunflower spread is a favourite of mine.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:25 pm
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Much prefer butter, especially the French stuff with lumps of salt in it. 🤤


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:26 pm
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Butter

Margarine is grim


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:27 pm
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All margarine is the devils ejaculate

That explains a lot.

I always wondered what the SB stood for in Stork SB.

Satans Bollocks


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:29 pm
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Pure sunflower spread is a favourite of mine.

Thats just mad me think of this...

😀


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:29 pm
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Rats don’t eat Marg. They don’t recognise it as food. Of rats won’t eat it I won’t. Marg is made from veg oil which is liquid at room temp so it undergoes some pretty nasty processing to make it of buttery consistency at room temperature as is actually toxic to your body.

Butter isn’t good for you but it’s natural, contains ingredients your body can deal with, some of which are beneficial to you and so long as you don’t overdo it can be part of a completely healthy and beneficial diet.

And it tastes much much nicer.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:31 pm
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Butter / lurpack here. Grew up on Marg and my parents still use it - I now find it inedible and ruins anything it touches


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:38 pm
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Butter there is no other option.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:41 pm
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We prefer butter.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:46 pm
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Rats don’t eat Marg. They don’t recognise it as food. Of rats won’t eat it I won’t.

Not true.

Marg is made from veg oil which is liquid at room temp so it undergoes some pretty nasty processing to make it of buttery consistency at room temperature as is actually toxic to your body.

There's not much on earth that isn't toxic to your body, that's why we have kidneys and a liver.

Butter isn’t good for you but it’s natural

Whether you consider taking dairy milk, a substance made by a cow to feed it's young and then processing it to be 'natural' is subjective I suppose,

contains ingredients your body can deal with

Mine can't in fact quite a few people can't 'deal' with dairy products, far, far fewer can't deal with non-dairy spreads.

some of which are beneficial

There are trace amounts of vitamins in Butter. Whether than makes them better for you than dairy and non-dairy spreads really depends on the person and the spread.

to it can be part of a completely healthy and beneficial diet.

It can, but as Heart disease is the bigger killer in the UK and butter contains 4 to 7 times the 'bad' cholesterol of spreads, you have to ask yourself, is it really healthy and beneficial for most people?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:46 pm
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Margarine is only one atom away from Lego.

It's true, I read it on Facebook. And water is one atom away from bleach.

(Lurpack spreadable here!)


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 4:57 pm
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Margarine is only one atom away from Lego.\

Exactly that’s why rats don’t eat it.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:00 pm
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[color=red]Margarine[/color] (still) [color=red]doesn't exist in the UK[/color] so any arguments about what it is or isn't is an irrelevance. Have you lot got your browsers set to write-only?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:01 pm
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most margarine is made with palm oil, so it's out here. beside who would have marg on their crumpets ??? who !!!!


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:04 pm
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Yeo Valley Spread for spreading.
Butter for cooking and baking.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:16 pm
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beside who would have marg on their crumpets ??? who !!!!

Not rats.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:21 pm
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Margarine (still) doesn’t exist in the UK

I guess because they're not using hydrogenated oils they're not the same as margerine used to be. But I'm happy to colloquially refer to emulsified fat and water spreads as margarine. Haven't they just replaced hydrogenated oils (a health risk) with palm oil (which can be an environmental problem)?


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:31 pm
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Butter on toast, but sarnies I dont really care.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:33 pm
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Butter.

The Brittany style with the big salt crystals in it.

We get through a half to two thirds of a pat per day between two of us in peak hot cross bun season.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:35 pm
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Butter is for people who don't make their own sandwiches - even left out of the fridge it's practically unspreadable.

and the ability to process lactose is sooo 1957.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 5:56 pm
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All margarine is the devils ejaculate

this

Butter isn’t good for you

It is. Provides an awful lot of the nutrients and vitamins you need. Too much butter is bad for you. What's too much? Depends on each individual.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:01 pm
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Spread (whichever is on offer in the supermarket) for sandwiches, toast etc. as easy to spread and when topped with a load of jam, marmalade, cheese, ham etc I can't really tell the difference.

Butter is best for cooking. Wish it was easier to get spreadable butter as it seems to be either hard or melted - nothing worse than trying to make a sandwich in a rush with hard butter.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:08 pm
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Butter for me. What heathen realised you can milk a stork. That’s not natural and neither is the consequence.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 6:16 pm
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Butter is for people who don’t make their own sandwiches – even left out of the fridge it’s practically unspreadable.

Kerrygold is perfectly spreadable when kept in a cupboard/butterdish and anyone who considers that butter needs to be kept in a fridge in this country is wrong, not all butters are created equal


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 7:01 pm
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Butter. Unsalted for me. The health issues of butter are massively overstated, I mean how much does the average person eat? Not me, I'm not average, I can eat it straight off the knife with a double cream chaser.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 9:00 pm
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Butter every time; delicious and makes you respect it to use in moderation rather than slather flora everywhere thinking it's a health product.

Just made dinner with a little knob, and some butter.

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Posted : 31/03/2020 9:14 pm
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What butter and whisky won’t cure, there’s no cure for... *

Margarine is the work of the devil.

* probably not the best time to test that proverb.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 9:46 pm
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President unsalted, olive oil, rapeseed oil (that's the only thing Americans have a better name for - Canola) peanut oil. Both of us over 65 and our joints and hearts are fine. Natural lubrication.
President spreads ok-ish out of the fridge but thin slices are ok on Co-op crusty bread.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:03 pm
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Margarine (not blended vegetable oils or emulsified spreads that we think of today) was horrific. Made from such lovely ingredients as rendered beef carcasses and skimmed milk, it's origins date back to Napoleonic times. In the early 20th century they were processing beef lard with hydrogenated vegetable oils, and then came the lovely trans-fatty acids (man-made oils)

I remember margarine as a child, utterly vile tasting, but it made good pastry. I also remember the point it changed from being a cheap alternative to being the latest health fad as saturated fats were demonised as the causes of heart disease and cholesterol/obesity.

In the 80s and 90s butter was viewed as lethal, with trans fats, hydrogenated vegetable oil and buttermilk mixtures sold as healthy alternatives. The food industry embraced trans fats as they were much cheaper and improved shelf life.

1990s research showed that trans fats themselves were even worse than saturated fats, leading to increased LDL and triglycerides, led to increased risks of diabetes, cardiovascular disease and various cancers. Amazingly, it wasn't until the mid noughties that this research meant that trans fats were given the boot in the food industry.

I won't eat anything other than butter.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:09 pm
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Butter is food.

Margarine is an industrial chemical product.

I know all you STW scientists are thinking, pfft, everything is a chemical, but you know what I mean.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:15 pm
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Always used to love butter. Since going vegan struggled to find an alternative that works with Marmite on toast and doesn't just turn the toast into a soggy mess. I've found this now and it's awesome.

vegan butter


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:25 pm
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Butter. It’s kept in a ceramic dish on the work top so it’s at room temperature and easy to spread, or use in cooking. I will use Anchor spreadable for sarnies, it’s just a bit easier to spread without tearing the bread to bits.
Omelettes are only to be made with butter, eggs, and a supplementary filling of choice.
I put butter on me potatoes, greens, just about everything that’s cooked, really.
Anything else is bland and tasteless.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:32 pm
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I've just seen a public information broadcast. We're supposed to be stopping the spread.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 10:49 pm
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Butter. Margarine is too chemically for me so it's butter all the way. Just try and keep it thinly spread.


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 11:09 pm
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Butter. Margarine is vile.


 
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This thread has unlocked a childhood memory of a spoof advert that creased me up... think it might've been in a Monty Python or Young Ones book and it was essentially a propaganda piece about how butter was stored in open vats under rafters and thus full of pigeon shit and cigarette butts.

It was presented on behalf of the Margarine Marketing Board.

However, my google fu is weak tonight and despite a good bit of searching, can't find the damn thing.

That said, I'm not easily roped in by adverts and school got to me 1st with the thing where you get a bottle of full cream milk and turn it into butter...


 
Posted : 31/03/2020 11:55 pm
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Butter, no question!


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 7:59 am
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Marg* usually, butter for cooking. Can't keep butter out of the fridge for half the year here, it'd be a puddle.

* And I'm using the word marg just to piss @Cougar off.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:07 am
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Margarine (still) doesn’t exist in the UK

Which is why the place is so infested by rats. Margarine might be a killer, but it targets the old and the weak so it will leave the rest of us better off, unless you like eating toast dripping with melted butter.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:13 am
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Life’s too short for margarine.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:23 am
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Countrylife, Anchor or Aldi clone of; like posh tea I'm having it as a luxury in lieu of overly milky coffee.


 
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I used to love St. Ivel Gold as a bairn, could have it half an inch thick, on some dirty chorleywwod bread, another thing the food snobs love to hate!. 🙂


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:36 am
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Butter. Margarine and vegetable oil spreads are man made nastiness. Full of chemicals and things made in laboratories.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:43 am
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I used to love St. Ivel Gold

UUrrrghhhh vile stuff. Mrs FB's parents used to have that when I first started going out with her. She thought I was addicted to marmite as I had to layer it an inch think on the toast to cover the taste of that abomination.

Butter all the way. If it's good enough for Marlon Brando....


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 8:55 am
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She thought I was addicted to marmite as I had to layer it an inch think on the toast to cover the taste of that abomination.

Ah, cover the taste of dog piss with some dog shite, happy days!


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 9:11 am
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🤣🤣


 
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[b]jeffl[/b] - came here to post exactly that. Naturli is great, and no palm oil either.


 
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jeffl – came here to post exactly that. Naturli is great, and no palm oil either.

Gets good reviews on Sainsbury's website and saw they sell a butter style 'block' as well which would be handy for cooking.
The most important thing though - does it really taste like butter?


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 11:23 am
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@retro83 it's the closest thing I've found to butter. Not 100% the same but probably somewhere near 75%


 
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Agreed - I'll happily eat it spread thickly on a slice of doorstop white farmhouse just as I would have butter.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 1:38 pm
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Norpack or Muckyfat


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 1:56 pm
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@jeffl - Naturli was recommended by the owner of a local cafe. I was pleasantly surprised by how nice it was and would recommend anyone to give it a try regardless of their existing preferences.


 
Posted : 01/04/2020 2:47 pm

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