[Closed] Mancini Sacked

Could write a tune you can whistle to

I agree it is foolish if they sack him as they will end up like chelsea winning every 3 years, where as they want to dominate like united.

Having said that he's an average manager, he got Inter when Juve were relegated and last season was lost by United as opposed to won by city. He failed to deal with balotelli and publicly slated his two most loyal players kopany and hart.

Interesting to see where ronney goes as fergie has dropped him out the squad!!

hes a brilliant manager and capable of dealing with the egos.

well, he didn't manage balotelli, tevez or hart's egos particularly well did he ?

i agree though. nonsense to sack him.

What a season finale its proving to be !!!

The David Moyes thing was all a smokescreen. Mancini is taking over from Alex. A reverse Tevez! 😉

binners - Member
The David Moyes thing was all a smokescreen. Mancini is taking over from Alex. A reverse Tevez!

not only that, Fergie is going to city!!!!!

lol ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rooney to take over from Moyes as player/manager at Everton. Moyes is actually taking over from Jose at Real.

You heard it here first! 😉

Doubt anyone is really surprised and whilst i dont personally rate him it must be a concern for City fans that their owners will be as trigger happy as Chelseas

Dont think it is too kneejerk a decison - for the money spent at City the football they play is poor and they have done dreadfully in the champions league. If anything the owners have been pretty patient with him

I think you have to have a certain respect for someone who can Spaff the vast sums of money he has done on players, then suggest, without a hint of irony, that the teams poor form was due to the owners refusal to spend. Priceless!

I believe it's known as Benitez Syndrome 😆

mmmmmmm.......im changing my mind........

and NUFC are SAFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Benitez Syndrome

Come on, he took City backwards, and his perpetual fiddling in Champions League games suggested that he didn't understand the importance (or thought he was some kind of Mourinho style tactical genius).

It's overdue, to be honest, although I'm sure City fans wish him all the best.

I'm a City fan and hope he doesn't get sacked although if he doesn't he needs to adapt the team to get some speed to attack teams on the break. Things are just to slow and deliberate.

Omar Little - Member
Dont think it is too kneejerk a decison - for the money spent at City the football they play is poor and they have done dreadfully in the champions league. If anything the owners have been pretty patient with him

LOLz at the United fans, who in a thread about the sacking of a city manager an only jerk themselves off about the gaffs of a Liverpool manager who is long gone. So predictable.

Shouldn't you be watching Sky and weeping into your prawn sandwiches right now?

It's not confirmed, could just be media BS. So far the City hierarchy have been very firm in backing him as manager despite the media constantly questioning his position.

But there is a feeling that he doesn't connect with the players, I think he usually gets the tactics right, but he doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players when it's going wrong.

He will get sacked - he didn't deliver unfortunately. Last season went really well but we won the league on a fluke. Not by great tactics, mind games or planning.

He should have built on last season - but we went backwards. he bought badly, Balotteli was disruptive, Hart seems to have ego issues, Tevez is coasting, and Clichy has been shit all season.
He tried to address Nasri's ego issues but failed.

Unfortunately, that is the managers job. Our season has been a bot touch and go all year. By fluke we are second - do we deserve, hell, no. We have played worse than we have done for many years.

Yesterday was just an example if 11 highly paid people who couldn't be arsed.

I really like Mancini - he has built a real following - but he meddles with tactics al a Benetiz, rather than letting w winning team go on the roll.

WTF was wrong with Lescott - ugly but way, way better than Clichy on any day. Especially Saturdays in May it seems.

Wigan deserved to win. Mancini had to deliver but he couldn't do it - not with the league, not in the European Championship and not the FA Cup.

City win despite Mancini not because of him. He has a very strong squad so he doesn't need to do much other than man manage and he gets that so badly wrong.

Rumours are Man City's gonna get a new face in for next season

Lescott & Tevez will be fighting over it

Shouldn't you be watching Sky and weeping into your prawn sandwiches right now

Tbh on paper city have a team to beat any other, some truly world class players there. What i find is they don't gel that well as a team. I like mancini, think he has a funny sort of arogance about him, only a few weeks ago he was claiming to be the best manager in the prem. Give him another season at least, clubs are to quick to sack managers these days.

WTF was wrong with Lescott - ugly but way, way better than Clichy on any day. Especially Saturdays in May it seems.

Clichy is a left back, Lescot a centre back. Probably best not to question tactics if that's your level of understanding 🙄

i think city's performance yesterday was a direct result of what was going to happen today.

now you know what was in the air, their complete no show yesterday looks entirely explainable.

terrible leadership by the sheikhs and shows what contempt they must have for the fa cup.

It was appalling mis management. Whatever was going on behind the scenes , their lack of support for Bob the Manc was just vitriolic, or stupid.
And I am not sure which ... they should have public supported him, or spelt out the go forward plan.

terrible leadership by the sheikhs and shows what contempt they must have for the fa cup.

This +1

Add to that, the premiership's contempt for it in playing another game on the same day. It's not news that the cup is meaningless to the moneymen of the EPL these days, but it's just a little bit sad to be reminded of it.

best you dry your tears , the bitter tears of envy

I'd rather just stick to the subject of the thread JY - you and binbins can (predictably) witter on about Liverpool if you must.

EDIT: The predictable dig about/to man U fayns on a City thread really helped keep it on track

Clichy is a left back, Lescot a centre back. Probably best not to question tactics if that's your level of understanding

Clichy is a left back, Lescot a centre back. Probably best not to question tactics if that's your level of understanding

Patronising ****head night in your house on Sundays ? I didn't realise SAF or David Moyes posted here ...
Anybody could have done a better job that Clichy yesterday. No matter what Lescott's favoured position is, I would guess that he would happily adapt ... or at 80K a week, do you feel he is isn't able to?

McMananaman ran circles around Clichy - but Bob seemed blind

EDIT: The predictable dig about/to man U fayns on a City thread really helped keep it on track

🙄

I was just trying to nudge you and binbins away from derailing it, but you realise that already. You two constantly do this with football threads. It's become boring and predictable. (I ought to be able to ignore it, really, I know this but hopefully, you might reconsider and give it a rest sometime.)

Perhaps you need to look closer to home in the letting it go stakes ?

I will take your point onboard but please take my mine.

or at 80K a week, do you feel he is isn't able to?

Tevez is on over twice that, do you think he could adapt to playing left back twice as well? 😆

This thread is missing something.

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I have no dislike for Mancini or City, I work with a few City fans, all Love Mancini, who can blame them & they all question the people running the club, Board, Owners etc, for me though...

Question marks over whether he has the dressing room & whether he can motivate several players, doesn't look that way in recent times.

Squad was weakened last summer & performances of current squad not up to expectations for such an array of quality. they have gone backwards, not forwards.

Totally understand the shout to keep faith & have stability, but the board / owners clearly think there is a better man for the job, which I also understand...

I completely agree with what Dave Wheelan said yesterday. The FA cup final should be the last game of the season. Just daft to have it before that.

City were woeful yesterday though. Never turned up. And it makes you wonder how much of that is down to the behind the scenes gossip. Hardly what you need before a big game. I didn't think that City would do a Chelsea. But it looks that way. Fingers crossed : D

This thread is missing something.

What? A trip down memory lane?

Corporate Football is just that .....

Swansea fans were brilliant today.
They were 1 -0 up away at OT , and they were singing at whiskeynose

You're getting sacked in the morning...

Guess that late goal bought him another week. 😉

That's brilliant!!! 😆

I don't think he did himself any favours essentially saying back me or sack me to the board yesterday....
It always seemed like he was on borrowed time since the Champions League debacle (even if 2 of the teams from the group made the semis)

As a blue I am massively disappointed at the way this has been handled - Peter Swales could not have handled it worse.

I like Mancini, particularly his ability to stick up for himself, but concerned that he cannot seem to consistently get players to play for him in the same way the Mourinho can.

I think he has been badly let down but quite a few of the players and the powers that be at the club. If they wanted rid then it should have been done at the end of the season and nothing should have leaked out beforehand.

The club should find where the leak came from. If it was Pelligrini's agent then Pelligrini should not be appointed manager.

Serious question. Would you, as a top class manager, want to go to a club that has just offloaded their manager in this manner? And I'm thinking back to the absolutely appalling way they handled Sparky's departure too. That was utterly shameful. Talk about a lack of respect! They seem just as ruthless as Abromovic! And other than the inevitable massive payout for being sacked in the most discourteous fashion imaginable, WTF would anyone's want to take that on? Your days are numbered from the second you arrive.

Serious question. Would you, as a top class manager, want to go to a club that has just offloaded their manager in this manner?

I often think that about Chelsea, but they seem to have the ability to attract [s]suckers[/s] top managers.

They're in London. 🙂

Your days are numbered from the second you arrive.

http://www.****/sport/football/article-2002199/LMA-blasts-manager-sackings.html

Answer - Hughes is far from a top class manager. Granted he made a couple of decent signings but I thought we got a pretty good run given that he was not the new regimes man. Agree the sacking could have been handled better.

If the City manager's post was vacant there would be a queue of real top class managers applying for it. Get paid millions and inherit a good squad plus funds to add players. Only managers with a real rapport with their current team - e.g. Jurgen Klopp - would not be tempted.

Having said that, the special one was paid off £25 million to * off having achieved more than any Chelsea manager for an eternity, and he'll be back there next season. Potentially he could do the same again. Ker-*ing-ching!!!!

I doubt Mancini will be walking away into abject poverty with 4 years left on his contract. Who's the mugs here? The managers? Hardly! The owners sacking them? Hardly! The fans who through the season tickets and TV subscriptions are paying for the pay offs?

You do realise, that staying in a management job as long as fergie isn't the norm?

Bayern have been through 4 or 5 managers in as many years, most top clubs only seem to keep their managers for a few years. How many of the top European clubs still have the same manager they did 4 years ago? Chelsea are very trigger happy and seem to average about 2 managers a season, city haven't done that.

And their is still nothing but press speculation that he will be sacked. Although it is looking likely, and I expect they wanted to wait till the end of the season before conducting business, these things do get out, just like fergies retirement (and Utd are famed for controlling the media).

There was nothing really bad in the way that they sacked hughes, just fergie took it as an opportunity to try and play games by calling it so.

Rich men's playthings only in this case (mostly) they happen to be other men. The only question they have to ask is whether the ultimate and inevitable humiliation is worth the flirtation, the brief moment in the light and, perhaps most importantly here, the pay check/redundancy award. There are plenty, for whom the answer is yes. It was ever thus.

Will be interesting to see if Moyes lasts past Christmas...

Would you, as a top class manager, want to go to a club that has just offloaded their manager in this manner?

The fans who through the season tickets and TV subscriptions are paying for the pay offs?

The Premiership average of 2.07 years is the highest according to this.

Junkyard - lazarus
How can it be Fergie

Article doesn't go into enough detail to say either way, id imagine its accurate

Well I just named three managers alone give you more than that average and that is ignoring 17 managers 26+11+150/20= 2.6 years
That is the point it is clearly wrong as for the figure I dont know what it is but it is higher than that but skewed by those three

There was nothing bad about the way they sacked Hughes? Seriously? I'd love to see your definition of lack of respect then? He was walking out to the technical area of a critical premiership game. The press had been informed that he was to be sacked at the end of the match, so all the crowd knew, yet the management had omitted the simple courtesy of letting him know.

How do you think they could have managed that worse? Ignoring the fact that Mark Hughes is a legend, how can you treat anyone like that?

Would you fancy strolling into work tomorrow to find out that all your colleagues and clients knew you were going to be sacked, its just nobody bothered to let you know?

Real classy, that! 🙄

Hughes's sacking may not have been handled well - but I think the only person who could have possibily been surprise was Sparky himself. He may have made a coupkle of decent signings - but he also squandered a lot on money of players that were rubbish. He didn't built a team, have a lot of strategy.

And that has also be seen to the teams where he has been moved onto ...

Citeh (and Chelski) need to learn from the ManYoo and Arsenals of this world - get a good manager and allow them time and space to develop a real team. As we showed so clearly on Saturday, get a load of prima donnas together, and when it doesn't go well, they don't play their hearts out.

With the Mancini issue - neither side has behaved well - Mancini spoke about how he nearly left at the end of last season ... so maybe catalysed the owners looking elsewhere just incase he did the same , this season.

Bob the Manc has done a lot of good, but he does suffer the obsession of bringng in highly strung italian players into a league taht is not overly kind to the tempremental talent of Italy. He has also made some weird tactical decisions this season and seemed to be ok about the inconsistency - and pointing to the players. The Nasri issue should have never gone public, nor should fistycuffs with Mario.

It would be good to see him stay - and the communication of a long term plan from both sides about the future. They have been as bad as each other. But, at the end of the day it is big business - having won the FA Cup, then the league (in a scrabbley fashion), this year had to be the next step up.

As a Citeh fan of 40 years plus, second in the league is a great result (hell, I can remember when winning the play offs was like winning the champions league)but with squillions invested "they" want more

The comments about Barca and Bayern are ponient - both are far bigger than just the manager

As a blue I am massively disappointed at the way this has been handled - Peter Swales could not have handled it worse.

+1. As a City supporter, this appears to be par for the course at City. It's bizarre that they cannot look 2 miles across town and see the fruits of long-term stability, and how the United board, when forced to change manager, have planned for it in advance, and opted for the same model again.

Pellegrini may well be the best thing since sliced bread, but it's another season wasted as he reconstructs the squad to his vision. Whether he can attract decent talent is another matter, given that many of the best players also value managerial stability and owner loyalty.

If Mancini is genuinely shocked that he's being lined up for an exit, with his successor already in place, then he's got a pretty short memory. As its just a replay of his own appointment. And he didn't seem to mind when he was the beneficiary. I don't think he's that naive. Its now just politics.

I thought City would stick with him, to be honest. With the 5 year contract at the end of last season. Unfortunately it looks like they're going to be the same as Chelsea. An expensive plaything for an individual who isn't used to hearing the word 'no', and get whatever they want, without exception, and with not a care about the fallout for others. I want a Champions League Trophy! Why can't I have one!

You could be the best manager in the world, but a failure to deliver immediate results means you're out. The most honest thing Abramovic ever did was appoint Rafa as 'interim' manager. Every manager at Chelsea should have had that title. It'll be a shame if City goes the same way. Lets be honest. Its hardly healthy for football. Despite us losing last season, it was the best end to a Premiership season ever. Going down to literally the last kick in the last minute. Unlike this one that just sort of petered out

Peligrini has denied that he is going to city.

Is there anything more than media hype to all these rumours? They went after Wenger earlier in the year, then hounded Benitez, now it's Mancini's turn. I wonder what will happen to Moyes once a few results go against him, will the media be as deferential as they have been to fergie.

If it was just the media a quick and clear statement to quash the rumours would stop it all hence why Mancini said this.
twit is clear there is some truth to it
Ps lovely use of distraction (and largely untrue) re fergie he would be proud of such a tactic.

There is a great article in The Guardian which sums up what many City fans - including me - feel at the moment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/13/manchester-city-fans-mancini

I'm not a fan of the sacking culture in football, but to me, Mancini hasn't cut it. He's proven to be woefully inadequate at man management, never came close to challenging for the title this season, and was embarrassed in the Champions league and the cup final. It's not good enough considering the resources he's had available.

He might not have achieved what was expected this season but last year he achived more than any City manager in my lifetime so he will always be a hero 🙂

"We always lose at home and we always lose away, we lost last week and we lost today, we don't give a f*ck cos we're all pissed up, MCFC OK."

Just when as a City fan you start to get used to winning the Man City of old appear - snatching defeat when it's least expected!

Just when as a City fan you start to get used to winning the Man City of old appear - snatching defeat when it's least expected!

I get the feeling that's the way it pans out. It's set in the runes. Whilst Manyoo always get the extra time and score and win we always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

Whilst Manyoo always get the extra time and score and win we always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

apart from last season of course when you scored and won the title in extra time.

still, let's not have reality get in the way of a good old hard luck story.

Yeah, the ref was as mixed as Robiniho was ... he thought the other Manchester team were playing 😆

Hell, it was our turn, and boy what a day it was !

apart from last season of course when you scored and won in extra time.

Pretty Steve Bruce's goals came pretty late when Utd first won the premiership...

& to be fair our goals against Gillingham in the division 2 play off final we quite late, almost as late as Utd's goals against Bayern in the same year..

With Man Citys team a bullish 1st Division manager could have done better. I'm sorry, I'm out. I wont be investing.

With Man Citys team a bullish 1st Division manager could have done better. I'm sorry, I'm out. I wont be investing.

Lets start the campaign here for Neil Warnock or Ian Holloway.

Yup definitely Ian Holloway.

& to be fair our goals against Gillingham in the division 2 play off final we quite late, almost as late as Utd's goals against Bayern in the same year..

I remember it well. I'd already switched the radio off and had to be rescued from a solitary sulk by the news it had gone to extra time...

Points for recruitment:
1. English as first language
2. No nonsense approach to characters within the team
3. A history of youth development
4. Continuity and protecting key players from overuse/injury week in week out.

So....

I remember it well. I'd already switched the radio off and had to be rescued from a solitary sulk by the news it had gone to extra time...

New management at 3 of the top 6 this summer.
Possibly up to 5 ( I don't see AVB going, But Arsene could if they're 5th)
Plus Real, plus Bayern.
It's a good summer to be an available manager. There's gonna be a bit of fighting over the top ones.

My tip - Rafa to City.
Has experience, titles, and can spend big money fairly well.
With City's cash, he'd build a team to beat Utd for a good few years.
Would be quite amusing too, with his rivalry with "small club Moyes".
probably end up at Real though.

Finally put out his misery http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22507128

how much comp?? 😯

It was going to be capped at a years salary. But I guess it depends how much fuss he makes ( which will be a lot)
Sad to see it happen - but no building on last years and the Hart/ Lescott/ Balotteli / Nasri issues were all really poor man management. How long did he let Balotteli behave like an arse for ?

Whilst he may been poorly treated - he has recieved no worse than he dished out TBH.

Christ - I hope nobody is that desperate that they will consider Rafa. I would rather have Mark Hughes back ...

He's got four years left on his contract - why should he settle for less than that? If he'd buggered off to Real or Barca after an outstanding season I imagine City would be after substantial compo.

How long did he let Balotteli behave like an arse for ?

I'm amazed more of the squad didn't become misbehave after this and Tevez. Then again- it looks like it did, player/team moral?

The Tevez saga was ridiculous - forget the 'oh he came back and scored goals though'. After shoving him down United's throat it royally showed them up didn't it?

Guaranteed remuneration in finance = pure evil
The same in football = par for the course

I wonder what fans would really think if they knew the full details of players/managers contracts. Bonuses for this, that and the other including tying your own laces. Hard to imagine such a pi22 take in any other walk of life being tolerated by so many, for so long. Such a beautiful game!

Caio Bob, enjoy the well-earned (?) pay off!!!!!

He's got four years left on his contract - why should he settle for less than that?

Because he was sacked?
Why should he get any compo for not achieving the targets his employer set?
None of us would, that's for sure!