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Got a shed load of of trimming on a shop facade I'm currently working on.
Can be doing with a compressor and hose. Space is limited and I'm constantly going up and down a ladder.
I've borrowed a dewalt nailer from a friend and used to have one myself years back. It's good. Only thing putting me off is having another battery shape to deal with.
Looking on reddit there's not much love for the Makita, although not much reasoning as to why.
Any STW experiences?
Or... Left field. Battery adapter. Makita battery on dewalt nailer? Or one better Milwaukee nailer?
Hitachi/Hikoki.
Their nailers are fantastic..I have the 16g Hitachi and I love it. Scott Brown agrees.
I also have a 23g Makita headless pin nailer too which is brilliant, but by the by.
Any STW experiences?
Joinery factory I used to work at had massive Stanley Bostitch nail guns that took a M60 machine gun style drum of belt fed full size nails. By jamming the safety plunger back you could go full Rambo in the maintenance shop. No cans of WD40 were ever left alive on the shelf if that helps.......
Ha... Reminds me of when we used to try and shoot pigeons and seagulls with Paslode nail guns whilst working on the seafront (I say seafront, it was Southend-on-Sea).
Paslode are a pain. Gun needs constant cleaning. The gas goes off if not used or it gets cold. Used to stick a gas canister down my trousers to keep it warm.
I have the Milwaukee , it’s a lot different to the Dewalt 16g it replaces. Much quieter, the Dewalt ramps up before firing, which generates a lot of noise.
The Milwaukee sounds more like an air nailer when it fires. Pricey though
My FIL is a joiner of 40-something years and started off with Makita stuff and then progressed to Hilti, but the only nail gun he'll use is a Paslode.
I have Hitachi finishing and framer.
Dad has paslode.
Been using both through August.
Like for like the paslodes lighter and better balanced. Nicer to use if using for long periods.
Paslode are a pain. Gun needs constant cleaning. The gas goes off if not used or it gets cold. Used to stick a gas canister down my trousers to keep it warm
Nail gun issues really. Not exclusive to paslode
I too got put off by the generally negative attitude towards the Makita online, so ended up with the Senco Fusion 18g. It's very good, and quite compact and quiet compared to the Hitachi I used at the joinery shop I used to work for. Only negative is that it's a pretty obscure battery you that won't work with anything else and might not be as readily available.
Nail gun issues really. Not exclusive to paslode
if the op is talking about the dewalt than they’re not gas guns. Even their framing nailer doesn’t use gas. And if talking about dewalt then 16ga rather than 18ga I presume
For the op it’s worth being clear on which makita guns people are moaning about - they were a bit late into battery only market so only had gas guns or some very odd format staplers until recently . Is it the gas finish nailers people are grizzling about?
The dewalt guns are very good indeed. Makita’s 18v 16ga only came out pretty recently. It’s a very different technology - shape - noise. It’s a strange unwealdy shape. The dewalt is a spinning flywheel inside. Activation if a nudge of the firing pin against that wheel which flings it down and hits the nail and a little bungee pulls it back. Very simple and not much to go wrong. Repairs when they are needed at just that pin or rubber band.
the makita looks / sounds like something more involving is going on inside. The only meaningful difference I’ve noted between my dewalt and the makitas people have had on jobs is the dewalt nails are angled and the makita are straight collated. Straight 16ga nail packs seem to be cheaper for some reason but it can be problematic getting straight guns into angles and corners.
despite being makita for everything cordless I use a dewalt 16ga and a narrow crown stapler in 18v. Makita didn’t have anything to offer at the time I bought them. It’s a shame to be stuck with a second set of batteries and dewalt bundle a shit slow charger with them (a proper fast charger is only about £13) the guns are very efficient though- mine came with 2amp/hr batteries and one charge keeps a gun going all day.
I've got Bostitch framing and finishing guns, both great. Light weight, no misfires and cheap to buy.
The Senco framer I've got is good but does misfire now and then. Not the end of the world but takes a minute or two to sort out, especially if it decides to try and put three nails through at once.
Had a Paslode in the past and now have the Dewalt nailers. The Paslode always had three things that could run out, gas, battery and nails, which always seemed to be just after you had wedged yourself or climbed up to that ‘awkward position’. The Dewalts only two, battery and nails, therefore a definite improvement in efficiency. Battery life also good.
Bought the Dewalt first and second fix nailers and am very happy with the performance. Didn’t consider the Makita as already had Dewalt battery tools, but did look at another Paslode, the added cost/faff of the gas put me off. In summary can’t fault the Dewalts so it would be dependent on whether another battery type would be a deal breaker.
Just a point on the reedit negativity, could be due to a US bias? They live their yellow tools over there.
The dewalt is a spinning flywheel inside. Activation if a nudge of the firing pin against that wheel which flings it down and hits the nail and a little bungee pulls it back. Very simple and not much to go wrong.
Yeah, I personally am not a fan of it. The spinning up noise makes you tense in anticipation. I prefer the sudden definitive clack of the Hitachi.
I'm on a Makita (fanboy) facebook group and even they don't rate the battery nailers.
I got one of the Badaptors to use my Makita batteries on Ryobi tools, works fine, although I try not to run to flat as it bypasses the battery protection stuff.