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hi folks,

i currently have central heating controlled by two analogue thermostats (one in hallway and one in living room) and mains powered - also hard wired to the boiler.

You can only adjust them for temp (no time / temp adjust) and have to adjust them through the day if / when you remember etc..

I was looking at nest / hive etc but they are quite expensive (especially with two required), dont seem to be mains powered and would require some tinkering with wiring to the boiler as they have separate control modules at the boiler end.

The ones that are programmable but are mains powered / hard wired to boiler all seem to look a bit rubbish (not the fancy displays that nest etc have)

Are there any nice ones around or will i have to shell out for nice wireless ones with the slightly more complicated wiring etc..

thanks


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 10:21 am
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Get the nest type and have them installed then its no ball ache for you.


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 10:35 am
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When you say mains powered do you mean one like this?

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If so you should be able to fit something like [url= http://www.salus-tech.com/products/rf-thermostats/rt500rf/ ]this RT500RF[/url], its battery powered
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Salas have a range of normal and internet connected thermostats


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 10:36 am
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I was looking at nest / hive etc but they are quite expensive (especially with two required), dont seem to be mains powered and would require some tinkering with wiring to the boiler as they have separate control modules at the boiler end.

Tado doesn't.


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 10:51 am
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grahamA,
yes, thats the type, in fact its those ones exactly


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:06 am
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Don't get too hung up on what you already have. A replacement system should be retrofittable and doesn't necessarily need to be located in the same place.


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:12 am
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Do you NEED a smart thermostat?

If not just fit a couple of Honeywell CM907s or something similar. They are basically the hardwired version of the wireless one and should run off the same wire you have in place but they are battery powered. You can get mains powered Drayton Digistats (+2 is 24hr +3 is 7 day).


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:12 am
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neverownenoughbikes I have the [url= http://www.salus-tech.com/products/rf-thermostats/rt500bc/ ]Salus RT500BC[/url] and while its not as cool as having a colour screen and a mobile phone app its sufficient for our needs

They also have a few internet connected (smart?) devices and seem to cost less than the hive/nest versions


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:13 am
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The fact the current one switchs mains on and off isn't a big deal, all the programmable ones will have relay contacts for mains and can control your boiler directly for you.

We have a Heatmiser which lets you have different temps at different times / days. Only wiring modification was I had to run an extra Neutral to the thermostat as it needs mains power, so has L, N, switched Live and Earth.

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Posted : 07/06/2017 11:24 am
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Nest is mains powered. The thermostat has a USB power supply that plugs into a normal socket. The receiver is wired to the mains near your boiler, and you just connect it to the on/off input on the boiler.
I had a Nest installed by a plumber, but had to finish it off myself, and it was pretty straightforward.


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:24 am
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[url= ]current wiring[/url]

anyone got any idea how these wires would go into the new one as apparently the operation for digital ones doesnt require some of the connections?


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 11:50 am
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right,
ive just been onto the phone to the boiler company
From what I can tell, the new thermostats only need the live neutral (and sometimes earth) wires connected, the live switch (yellow wires in photo above) just need to be connected with a loop to live. This means I will have a yellow wire with nowhere to go in the new thermostat. Does anyone know if this can just be tucked away or will it be a live wire that needs to be capped?


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 1:01 pm
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Does anyone know if this can just be tucked away or will it be a live wire that needs to be capped?

Just cut it flush with the insulator, put some insulation tape over the end and tuck it away at the back..


 
Posted : 07/06/2017 1:25 pm

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