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captured by the cam by accident on this mornings commute
top right hand corner (posting link so you can get a magnified version rather than the standard usually allowed)
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Posted : 29/03/2011 7:30 am
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Baby Robin


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:31 am
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Buzzard??


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:32 am
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nearest i've got on the RSPB bird identifier website is a sparrow hawk, but that's not definate if anyone knows better


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:45 am
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Looks too big to be a sparrowhawk but at that resolution I can't be sure


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:56 am
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+1 Buzzard I think.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:57 am
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Difficult to tell how far away it is, but looks to big and wrong wing shape for a sparrowhawk. My guess would be buzzard or osprey


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:58 am
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Did it have white markings under its wings?

Like this: [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 7:59 am
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NO idea colour, I only noticed it when looking at pics on the cam and because of the sun it's just a silhouette


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:15 am
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Could be a Hen Harrier, get a few round here and looks fairly similar


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:20 am
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Whilst the twitchers are on this therad... I had a good view of a bird of prey yesterday but no pics unfortunately.

It was falcon/kestrel shaped (accipiter?), quite big - as big a wingspan as a buzzard maybe but more slighly built. It had a long rectancular tail, not appearing forked like a Kite. It was white underneath but the ends of the wings look like they'd been dipped in black ink.

In Central Europe btw.

EDIT: Hen Harrier maybe...


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:25 am
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Rocketdog, I'd say it's almost definitely a Buzzard. We've got bucket loads of them in Stirligshire, and most of them tend to circle above me. They have a distinctive 'v' shape to their wings when soaring.

Molegrips, sounds like a Kestrel to me.

Beagy.

p.s. I am [i]not[/i] a twitcher. However , when I did my Ecology degree, the department was overflowing with staff who were. So I had to learn a wee bit about birdies. The things you do for an educashun eh'?


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:34 am
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You chaps who are saying it's a bird of prey must have great resolution PC screens! It looks like a crow to me.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:36 am
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do you get buzzards in quite urban areas?, although this was over fields it's not far from a quite built up and industrial area


 
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Molegrips, sounds like a Kestrel to me

I know kestrels in my sleep - this was about three times the size for a start.

RD yes you do get them in urban areas. We get them over our house in a new build jungle on the edge of Cardiff - their territory is the woods that forms the power line exclusion zone, completely hemmed in by houses and factories.


 
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Well I'm going with a Bird of Prey! Do I win!? 😆

We get quite a few Buzzards and Sparrowhawks in the town and surrounding area, quite often see 3+ a day in the summer.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:48 am
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rd - Can't tell. Have a look at a Goshawk on the RSPB site.

molgrips - male hen harrier? Typically fly close to the ground, greyish back and black wing tips. Females are brown with a distinctive whit bar at the base of the tail.

PS -I'm not a twitcher honest!


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:50 am
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Will be a buzzard RD. Often see them over Redditch, also had one circling high above us in Stourbridge yesterday


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 8:52 am
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Yeah, that looks like what I saw. It flew about 10ft over my head as I was riding along - guessing that it knew it had to clear the road.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 9:03 am
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It will not be a hen harrier - they are as rare as rocking horse pooh. If it's near an urban area will not be an osprey either. Therefore either buzzard or red kite. Whereabouts are/were you


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 9:04 am
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I'm sticking with crow

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Posted : 29/03/2011 9:13 am
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I'm in Bavaria. And it was in no way a buzzard. Not shaped like one, nor was it coloured like one. I've seen thousands of buzzards, even saw three or four on the same ride!

And it was definitely not a red kite either. Seen hundreds of those. Wrong colour, wrong shape, wrong size and wrong tail.


 
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Looks like Dave. Characteristic tail feathers.


 
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It will not be a hen harrier - they are as rare as rocking horse pooh

Not here (Cambridgeshire) there not, quite often see them over fields ten minutes walk from my house

Get plenty of Buzzards too, very distinctive call gives them away and they are bigger than the Hen Harrier too


 
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I'm in Bavaria. And it was in no way a buzzard. Not shaped like one, nor was it coloured like one. I've seen thousands of buzzards, even saw three or four on the same ride!

And it was definitely not a red kite either. Seen hundreds of those. Wrong colour, wrong shape, wrong size and wrong tail.

Don't understand how you can be so certain of shape and colour from that photo which is a tiny silouette. And if it's neither of those what do you reckon it is?

Crow might be a good shout - would have needed to see it flying to see the wing beat pattern. From the photo you can't tell if it was beating its wings or gliding


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 10:23 am
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CaptM - Molgrips is talking about the bird [i]he[/i] saw. It's getting bloody confusing. Mol's was probably a budgie.


 
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Yes, sorry, totally hijacked the thread and also failed to provide pics which makes it even more confusing for the skimmers 🙂


 
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Ah - my humble apologies for trying to help out the OP


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 10:42 am
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Area is north worcestershire


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:01 am
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It doesn't look like a bird to me.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:12 am
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buzzard to me


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:15 am
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Your pic looks more like a raven DezB. Which the OP's bird could be, but doubtful in Worcestershire. I'd say buzzard.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:27 am
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Cessna?


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:30 am
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Looks like a duck to me.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:32 am
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Nah, it's a lot smaller. Looks like a moth to me.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:41 am
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definitely photoshop at work


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 11:44 am
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While we're on the subject can anyone identify these two mystery birds that keep pecking on our back door looking for handouts ?

Scrounging scum.

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can anyone identify these two mystery birds

I think the one on the right is called Dave. I don't recognise the other one though.


 
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Posted : 29/03/2011 11:51 am
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no the one on the right is definately not a dove 😕


 
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Posted : 29/03/2011 12:25 pm
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Mallards trailmonkey. The most common duck in the UK.

You really don't get crows and ravens in Worcs?


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 1:14 pm
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ispot can be a useful website for this type of thing.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 1:25 pm
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Crows yes, ravens not so much as they are an upland bird, they like mountains.


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 1:40 pm
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Its a crow in the pic anyway.

Just found an old pic of mine, can anyone ID these for me?

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click for full size


 
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I'd go for crow or raven.

Head / neck looks to long in proportion to wing root / shoulder position for a buzzard... (buzzard looks like it has short neck and head, whereas crow / raven has wings more "in the middle" - as do seagulls. The pic is silhouetted, so it could be one of the larger gulls.

ravens not so much as they are an upland bird, they like mountains.

Not so much these days. Loads of ravens where my parents live, and they are pretty much at sea level. Like buzzards, their numbers have increased dramatically over the last few decades


 
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Can any STW ornothologists tell me why this chirpy little fellow has overcome his fear of humans?
He let me freewheel right up next to him and take a close-up photo.... 😉

[img] [/img]


 
Posted : 29/03/2011 1:57 pm
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There, told ya.

(That appears to be the rare pebble-thrush, slugwash)


 
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Like buzzards, their numbers have increased dramatically over the last few decades

where have all the buzzards come from..?

I used to know of a couple of places that we could always spot one or two on car journeys as kids..
now I see them daily.. all over the place.. often four or five per day..


 
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Most of the birds of prey species have recovered incredibly well since the ban on DDT type pesticides and a masive reduction in game keepers targeting raptors and egg collectors going for the nest(although both of these do still happen)

ETA, not aware that gamekeepers used to kill egg collectors 😆


 
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MrFox did you look in on this thread thinking there might be an easy meal?

Impossible to say what the bird is really. Seeing it flying would make a lot of difference and obviously there was something about it that caught your attention - edit, no I see it was caught by accident.

I've recently been going through old video tapes and checked some footage shot on the Isle of kerrera few years back. There was what we suspected to be an eagle but it was difficult to see it against the light. It was also hard to see the screen while filming. The footage showed very clearly that it was a sea eagle. Easy to see but zoomed in camera hosepiping meant poor footage.

Nice to have the question cleared up though.


 
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I have seen loads of sea eagles in the US, along the Mississippi where they winter in high concentrations. I also suspect I saw a pair of Golden Eagles in the French Alps years ago, but not sure.


 
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it's definately not any sort of eagle


 
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