[Closed] Lock down procedure

get somebody on the tannoy "welcome Mr Bond; we've been expecting you. Please proceed to the shark pool area"

or

"intruder detected. response team now active in this area. unauthorised visitors will be neutralised. all staff must arm themselves immediately"

I work on a big public sector site with a public right of way through it, and I'm not aware we have a lockdown procedure!

We have different procedures/alarms for fire or bomb alerts - basically one bell means get out for a fire, another means stay put for a bomb. I guess we could use the bomb alert for lockdown as well, as there is a security guard on the entrance to each building to secure the doors.

You might have something similar?

WTF is a lock down procedure?

Do you have an internal phone system with PABX that you can set certain handsets to allow broadcasts? Then just train a few people with said handsets to announce a certain message in the event of an intruder. This is what we use to announce the sandwich lady is outside etc...

Get your IT to setup a few users who can send messages to all logged on users, or even a batch file so they just have to click to send the message to all users.

if you have a working network then why not just add a network audio player of some sort and then put the control app on everyone's phone. You can also of course put links to it on all computers. The problem with this of course is the students 🙂

If you just wants to sound the fire alarm then maybe something like webrelay http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/

Only one bell type for fire alarm. I do have a security team, I once saw them chase a feral cat away.

I have been trying to work out if a wireless alarm system would work with panic buttons, but, each corridor is 55m long, 3 sets of corridors, plus two buildings a further 100m away, a canteen, gym and swimming pool.

We have an insecure site just now, currently planning on fencing it all in this year.

A lot of procedures have been put in place such as this one, but not always though through, current procedure predates me by 6 years or so.

Get your IT to setup a few users who can send messages to all logged on users, or even a batch file so they just have to click to send the message to all users.

#wall "you're all going to die"

FuzzyWuzzy's idea is good

This is what we use to announce the sandwich lady is outside etc...

She just sends me a text when she arrives....

WTF is a lock down procedure?

A procedure put in place to safeguard staff, students and other employees if an intruder, or something of danger to their well being is on site or in the building.

Hear the song, drop the door blinds, lock the door, get up against the wall one the same side of the door and wait for the all clear

WTF is a lock down procedure?

Lockdown is your no 1 choice in ligament reconstruction. Certainly my no 1 choice [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/separated-shoulder-grade-34-surgery ]at the moment[/url].

Thought you'd done the same, quirrel.

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When I worked in Stadia we had a protocol for emergencies so if you are ever at a footie/rugby match or large event day like Grand National etc and you hear over the tannoy "Will Constable ERIS please go to Section D*" there is some shit going down in Section D! ERIS is an acronym that I can't remember.

On another note in the Tesco in Stirling the Security guy is called "William Wallace" even if it's a security girl!

Blimey, as far as I know ours consists of run around screaming when you hear gunfire.

Lockdown is your no 1 choice in ligament reconstruction.

Do you really need music over the PA for a shoulder reconstruction?

Blimey, as far as I know ours consists of run around screaming when you hear gunfire.

What you need is...

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Most places use a different ring pattern on the alarm but loads of good suggestions above utilising the existing phone system or network system.

A silent system of lights is also a possibility so if it flashes something is going down and not as obvious as a loud alarm.

[i]Do you really need music over the PA for a shoulder reconstruction? [/i]

I expect you thought that was humerous

😉

Can anybody guess the song that was chosen? Long before my time.

I shot the sheriff?

I will get the engineers to see if there is a way to put some sort of three short blasts on the fire bell - certainly better than trying to find a CD to play.

[quote=Quirrel ]Can anybody guess the song that was chosen? Long before my time.

Panic by the SMiths?

I shot the sheriff?

9 years too young

What's wrong with just using the tannoy:

"Code Brown! Code Brown!"

As illustrated here by a young Guy Martin:

ERIS is an acronym that I can't remember.

[url= http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/eris.htm ]Exoatmospheric Re-entry Vehicle Interceptor System?[/url]

Panic by the SMiths?

23 years too young

Help! - The Beatles?

"Code Brown! Code Brown!"

My Ding-a-Ling by Chuck Berry?

Help! - The Beatles?

you win

Replacing the disc with a prearranged phrase would seem to be the obvious choice? Staff calls for non-existent staff, perhaps? Last place I worked used "operation sandman" for a fire, and variations for other threats.

What's wrong with just using the tannoy:

Old place, we just used to announce over the tannoy - lock down, lock down, lock down. easy as that.

But it had an easily accessbile microphone and tannoy system

I will get the engineers to see if there is a way to put some sort of three short blasts on the fire bell - certainly better than trying to find a CD to play.

When I worked in Safeway as teenager we would go on the shop tannoy and instruct our mates to go to "the Egg Section" if we spotted a particularly attractive lady person in the store.

If it has an amp and you can play disks, surely you can put a mic on it? Actually, if you can do that, put a mixer and some decks on the input and you'e got your own really small pirate radio station.

Now that _would_ be cool.

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jon1973 - Member
Lockdown procedure.

Brilliant!

Moderately on topic a club I used to go to used to play " I spy for the FBI" whenever the plain clothes police were spotted on the dance floor or in the toilets.

quirrel where on earth do you work (overseas? / type of place) that you have such a procedure?

Obviously without naming the establishment specifically.

I can offer no technical advice just nosey/ curious

Batley would be my (saddened) guess !!

Quirrel - Member

Can anybody guess the song that was chosen? Long before my time.

Shampoo. "Uh oh, we're in trouble, someone's come along and he's burst our bubble."

errrr..... Kenny Loggins, shirley

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you really need music over the PA for a shoulder reconstruction?

I expect you thought that was humerous

Humerus surely...

We don't have one. I think we should, but the feeling is that it would scare people.

I plan to jump out the window and run like hell. Might do a practice drill this afternoon.

The advice from our counter terrorism lot is to get out of the building, but don't all gather in the same place. Thanks.

We have an announcement on the tannoy and we have to stay indoors and make sure the doors are locked.
Which is probably the best place to be because we have the CNC police muppets outside armed with machine guns.

hels - Member

The advice from our counter terrorism lot is to get out of the building, but don't all gather in the same place. Thanks.

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We've just had presentations on this at work. The current advice , run, hide, tell is handily shown here with a nice video as well [url= https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/stay-safe-film ]Don't panic, no hang on do panic!!!!!![/url]
Obviously by tell they mean post on here as the attack is ongoing.

I'm also curious to as to where you work that has a specific lockdown procedure. Where I work there's an armed response if the building alarm goes off (it's a brown trousers moment + expensive if you mess up the alarm code when trying to do some weekend work :p ) but we don't have an intruder lockdown procedure

Where I work, you can just leave the alarm going off all weekend and no one notices....

Yes! beat Rorscharch!

I'm also curious to as to where you work that has a specific lockdown procedure.

so it's not exactly restricted to Nuclear bunkers.

There's a company near by who bought the local authority Nuclear Bunker and use it for RF testing....

We have an announcement on the tannoy and we have to stay indoors and make sure the doors are locked.
Which is probably the best place to be because we have the CNC police muppets outside armed with machine guns.

But nobody ever bothered explaining what to do if you get stuck outside (I'd go for duck and cover)

Oh and hope armed terrorists don't figure out a way to unlock a glass door...

Most town halls and many other local authority buildings have nuclear shelters in the basement. Though I did hear of one town hall where the basement was too small to have a nuclear shelter permanently built there. So the staff were provided with a pile of bricks and instructions on how to build a bomb shelter in an emergency 😀

http://www.npcc.police.uk/NPCCBusinessAreas/WeaponAttacksStaySafe.aspx

this is what we've been told

I'm going take my shoes off and strip down to my vest. Have written down some pithy one liners on flash card too, some examples.

"negotiate with THIS woodburner, sucker"
"I've got bespoke trousers, locked and loaded"
"That's not a machiatto, THIS is a machiatto"

" Audi ya like that!"?

Can't help but wonder what the staff would do if the tannoy announced "Lock down, lock down, lock down!!!" but no Beatles....

Its an international school, they generally have some sort of lockdown/duck & cover due to the types of kids going there.

School before this we had Rio Tinto families at it, they did a security audit of the school, and only let families sign up once we had fixed a couple of things - we did get a cool walkie talkie to be connected to the emergency radio service for disasters and civil unrest.

Our current site is a nightmare to keep secure, this year's project is to fence in the 25 acres properly.

this year's project is to fence in the 25 acres properly.

Please, unlike so many school sites, allow pedestrian access direct to the communities. Don't force everyone to use the same entrance with vehicles, cutting off pupils from thier estates and teachers from easily heading off site. It does mean a walk for a janitor to lock and unlock.

I am also intrigued as to what a fence will achieve. I have watched pupils 'hop' over an 18' high cage fence and many steel spike fences, putting them at significant risk and proving TheBoogeyMan could also 'hop' over as quickly.

Interestingly, Dunblane primary (the school who should probably be most paranoid about these things) is the least secure site I know of, with major right of way through the middle. Thier view is nothing would have stopped him.

lease, unlike so many school sites, allow pedestrian access direct to the communities.

We fence the grounds to keep the local community out, or at least stop wandering in and trying to use the swimming pool.

Private school?

I have watched pupils 'hop' over an 18' high cage fence and many steel spike fences,

A 6' fence with anti-vandal paint on the top 6" is normally enough, most school kids don't want oily paint on their expensive trainers....

Private school?

International generally are.