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@binners ... So true...I never drew the parallel between thick lizzy and black adder! hahah! It's a perfect fit!

Her 'James Bond super villain' fancy dress (complete with black bear skin hat) during her russian visit was another classic but actual real-life...

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I think Truss has based her public facing persona on Philomena Cunk!

 
Posted : 07/03/2024 10:19 pm
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FOI request asking for cost details of the numerous long-distance flights that Truss took in her short lived time as PM and as Foreign Sec before that…

Oooph.. on initial reading I thought "£1,400 per head" was fairly reasonable for a long flight, if you include security costs etc, as they are government officials etc...until I read further and that was just the bar tab!!!

Catering for the Australia flights in January 2022 cost £15,639 in total — 3.4 percent of the total £454,626.59 cost of the tickets.

 
Posted : 07/03/2024 10:47 pm
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She's ****ing deranged. I wish her death.

 
Posted : 08/03/2024 8:37 am
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Matthew Paris always had the measure of her and warned repeatedly in the Times about letting her anywhere near the levers of power...

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Posted : 08/03/2024 8:51 am
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I'm lost for words.....

BBC News - Liz Truss thought 'why me, why now?' after Queen's death
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68803610

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 10:09 am
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it looks like the book is taking her legendary lack of self-awareness to terrifying new heights

In another extract she raises issues I’m sure we can all identify with

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Posted : 13/04/2024 10:21 am
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Is that a genuine extract from her book @binners?

I've said this before, and I'll say it again....not something that I say lightly, but I genuinely worry about her mental state.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 10:25 am
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I might actually have to read this shit when it ends up at the library, Oxfam or the bargain basement basket bookshop.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 10:29 am
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@Tom-B - it’s for real, as are her complaints about fleabag Boris

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Posted : 13/04/2024 11:53 am
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Oh I love this sentence:

[i] We ordered some of our own [furniture] but were evicted before it could be delivered [/i]

😂😂😂

I thought John Lewis did next day delivery...? Or does that not count when you have to get into Downing Street.
Anyway. Hahahaha.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 12:03 pm
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John Lewis ‘in stock’ is prole shit. She’d have gone full bespoke.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 12:14 pm
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@binners although I despise the woman, she does make some valid points in that extract.

We run the Prime Minister’s office in an amateurish manner, and then wonder why we get amateurish incumbents.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 12:44 pm
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True, but the sense of entitlement that Truss has always displayed is absolutely off the scale.

Little Lord Sunak is even worse though,  but the pair of them cost us all an absolute fortune just with their preferred form of transport

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Posted : 13/04/2024 12:58 pm
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"but were evicted".

She wasn't evicted, she was ****ing sacked!

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 2:55 pm
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Liz is ALWAYS the victim. It’s always boo hoo, poor me.

Not least in the other Liz being so bloody inconsiderate in going and dying just to ruin her week

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 4:35 pm
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She wasn’t sacked. She resigned.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 6:14 pm
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She wasn’t sacked. She resigned.

Technically yes but in reality she was sacked.

Although of course this was at the instigation of the deep state and those all powerful lefties so shouldnt count.

I wonder if she kept the furniture so that when the entire nation falls to its knees (actually maybe not that might seem a bit black lives matters so how about genuflecting instead) begging for her to return to save us she wont have to wait to fit out number 10.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 6:52 pm
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She's mad as a match hair old Truss, love her!

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 8:56 pm
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“Ten years to Save the West”?

Ten minutes to **** the country more like

seldom in the field of economics was so much knackered by so few so quickly

Tit.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 9:08 pm
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^^ I do wonder if she genuinely has some sirt of syndrome!

Imagine being so bad at ANY job that you crash and burn spectacularly within days and very publicly yet you go on to declare that you were right and everyone else was wrong.

Is Anti-Imposter Syndrome a thing?!😁

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 9:14 pm
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Tit.

They tend to travel in pairs, hence Kami Kwasi.

The other "tit in a trance."

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 9:15 pm
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Thought Rishi had withdrawn the whip after her appearance with Steve Bannon supporting Yaxley-Lennon as a hero…..

Not a chance. That would suggest the Conservatives aren’t now a hard right party. Not a message Sunak can be sending out if he wants to stay PM.

 
Posted : 13/04/2024 9:18 pm
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Deluded grifter doing grifting

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68821646

With that flag backdrop she looks like the blonde one in Team America

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:20 pm
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Looney Tunes Truss has just done a Newscast interview, worth listening if you want a chuckle.  Or feel the need to tear your hair out.

Deluded doesn't do it justice.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:24 pm
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Deluded grifter doing grifting

Beat me to it.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:25 pm
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So this is Truss takeaway from Trumps time in office:

Liz Truss has endorsed Donald Trump to win this year's US presidential election, saying the "world was safer" when he was in the White House.

I'm not sure which planet she was on at the time but that's not how I remember his 4 years as president...

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:30 pm
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What the **** are the BBC doing giving that oxygen thief any airtime? I'm sure in her head it confers some kind of relevance/endorsement. They should be ashamed of themselves. Who are they going to wheel in for balance from the opposition? That idiot Corbyn?

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:36 pm
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^^ I have no idea why anyone would value any opinion she has. She proved on the world stage she has no credible opinions any reasonable person would be interested in.

She has absolutely no insight into her own failings, even Nixon basically turned his back on the world after his downfall.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 10:45 pm
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What the **** are the BBC doing giving that oxygen thief any airtime?

She's just a political grifter, the same as the likes of Farrage or Anderson... they have no politics, they are just trying to make money, and to be fair,  mostly being semi-sucessfull at doing so.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 11:04 pm
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What the **** are the BBC doing giving that oxygen thief any airtime? ............They should be ashamed of themselves.

Calm down ......I for one enjoyed reading the BBC article about Liz Truss, I thought it was excellent.

I  liked how when reporting Truss's endorsement of Trump they pointed that "Her comments came as the first of Mr Trump's four criminal trials began in New York."  After they had reminded their readers that she was "the UK's shortest-serving prime minster".

I also loved how she hates the OBR so much, especially as it was created by a Tory government!

I found the whole article hugely entertaining.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 11:05 pm
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Well I have just seen the BBC interview and the only people I can think of who might be upset about the publicity that Liz Truss is getting would be members of the Conservative Party.

The last thing the Tories need as the next general election gets ever closer is for voters to be reminded of Liz Truss's disastrous premiership.

I also think that it's great that she hasn't ruled out standing for the Tory leadership again. Senior Tories must be groaning in disbelief and Labour must be wondering what they have done to deserve such good luck.

 
Posted : 15/04/2024 11:35 pm
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That's a nice line for Labour "Remember, whatever Tory leader you're voting for today, they might just replace them with Liz Truss halfway through for a laugh"

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 12:42 am
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Lol, look at the quote from Truss at the top of todays Telegraph. 😉

Yep, the whole world is stupid. She's the only genius here.

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Posted : 16/04/2024 2:17 am
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She seems to be on a personal mission to blot out any last vestige of reality from her weird little world

Given her track record, it’s not hard to see why. Looks like the Guardian were right with their predictions though …

Senior Tories fear Johnson and Truss will sabotage Sunak’s election campaign

Neither of them seeming to realise that a period of STFU would probably be best advised from both of them

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 6:18 am
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It gets worse:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68823526

She really is thick as ****.

It's like Maureen from the Commons canteen got to play PM for a month (no disrespect to the Maureens out there, they perform a valuable role).

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 7:27 am
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Deluded doesn’t do it justice.

Caught part of the Newscast interview on last nights news, and couldn't believe how dangerously deluded she sounded.  Thought the interviewer let her skewer herself nicely.

Genuinely made me think that Boris wasn't so bad. Then I slapped myself.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 7:33 am
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Neither of them seeming to realise that a period of STFU would probably be best advised from both of them

It wouldn’t be for Liz. The rumor is that all the libertarian wing nuts who fund Tufton Street and the like have told her that she’ll be cut off if she goes quietly into the night because her premiership proved how batshit crazy their economic theories are.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 7:35 am
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She also strikes me as a Katie Hopkins type, saying more and more outrageous things in a desperate attempt to keep in the spotlight.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 7:38 am
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I was expecting Truss to have a very weird childhood that someone explained her search for attention and identity. Wikipedia is not very detailed but she seems to have moved around a bit including, bizarrely: "In 1977 Truss and her parents moved to Warsaw, but returned to Britain after [parents] John and Priscilla found it "quite grim"" What???

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 7:56 am
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“She also strikes me as a Katie Hopkins type,”

That’s the grift effect…

I wonder how her own husband and kids feel about this. Shameless, along for the ride, concerned, equally deluded?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:11 am
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As mad as she is, theres fertile ground for populists out there, plenty of people love blaming the unelected quangos & civil service for the failure of their ideologies to deliver what they promised.

Her 'Save the West ' 3 word slogan is the perfect dog whistle, was out with a riding mate last week who assured me that within a decade we'd all be living in isolated ghettos (he also thinks a trump win would be for the best.)

This looks very much like her positioning herself for her post politics career, hut unbelievably she's almost certain to be re-elected as she has a huge majority on a very blue constituency (wo ups live to see her lose it though!)

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:24 am
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The BBC are playing lots of Lizzies batshit crazy observations on the world this morning.

I’m pretty sure Rishi’s Downing Street operation is presently considering a Putin style ‘accident’ to befall the former PM

Unfortunately she now appears to fancy herself as a rent-a-gob media commentator. Surely joining her grifting colleagues on the GB News gravy train is a given?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:26 am
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was out with a riding mate last week who assured me that within a decade we’d all be living in isolated ghettos (he also thinks a trump win would be for the best.)

Ever considered getting a new riding mate?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:28 am
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If I never heard a statement from her again, it would be too soon. I prefer my politicians to have some competence. Even ones I don’t agree with. She. Is. A. Disgrace!

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:28 am
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She. Is. A. Disgrace!

Still cracks me up 🤣

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 8:42 am
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She still will not acknowledge any responsibility, let alone apologise for the car crash of her Premiership and is doubling down on the batshit ‘wokerati’ conspiracy theories.

The Bank of England and various other renowned lefties did for her, apparently

This is not some Alan Partridge style spoof. This is for real 😳

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Posted : 16/04/2024 8:50 am
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She still will not acknowledge any responsibility,

It must be tricky. Imagine you were completely dedicated to free markets being the source of everything good and perfection.

Then you finally get to put your plans into action and the markets shit their pants.

You can either abandon your ideology (the spiked lot are a good example of this careening all the way across to market fundamentalism from marxism after the fall of the soviet block) or conclude that someone was cheating.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:03 am
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Caught a bit of her interview on 5-Live this morning where she was talking about the upcoming changes to tobacco and vaping. Apart from completely deluded she sounded either drunk or high. Either that or she is having a serious episode of some sort.

Agree with her getting airtime though as a reminder that the Tories actually elected the intellectual void as leader and prime minister!

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:12 am
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She thinks autocracy is a bad thing, and then says

"In short, she thinks power of judicial appointments should lie with elected politicians."

Isn't what she says about heading down that rocky road?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:20 am
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Yeah, she rails against the ‘Nanny State’ and spouts her usual libertarian ‘we should be allowed to do whatever we like’ drivel, then 5 minutes later she’s rattling off all the stuff she wants stopped or banned.

As thick as a Boxing Day turd

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:23 am
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When my daughter was about 2 years old we found her sat on the floor in her room holding a bunch of crayons, with a lovely new crayon drawing on the wall. She said her stuffed rabbit did the drawing. Fair enough, she was 2 years old. Liz Truss is an actual adult.

The full interview is staggering. It is like she has asked for a list of things that most rational people think, then set out to say the opposite. Pro Trump, for removal of power from Civil Servants, anti media, anti woke, anti Bank of England. Pro Israel, anti net zero, pro Boris.  The list just goes on and on and she doesn't care if one thought contradicts the next, there is no cohesion of thinking, just a load of populist box ticking.

I don't for one second believe that these are her firmly held views. As said above, she is just grifting, looking for money through books, columns, interviews and US talk shows. The Katie Hopkins comparison is a good one.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:23 am
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But rotating the square block in Tetris makes no difference to where it fits below.

Thick as mince 🤦‍♂️

From the BBC interview last night it's clear that she is the living embodiment of 14 years of cuts to the mental health care budget.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:24 am
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@binners

As thick as a Boxing Day turd

I'm stealing that and putting it in my lexicon. Alongside "throbber" which I'm already gleefully using.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:38 am
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@franksinatra

she is just grifting

I can't remember where, but I read a great essay by a political scientist who was arguing that for a lot of right wing "policies" the grift is the whole point. ie they're chosen based on their ability to elicit donations from people rather than on any ideological basis. Gun control and abortion being two of them.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:43 am
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My mum's partner, an otherwise perfectly normal/sensible chap whom I love dearly has been captured by this version of the conservatives. He thinks Liz Truss is the coming messiah* We avoid politics for both our sakes.

*well, not really, but he's very keen on the way she "shakes things up"

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:44 am
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Having just listened to the whole interview, the woman is clearly absolutely barking mad!

She’s a tinfoil-helmeted, delusional, extremist  maniac!

That someone as obviously deranged as her could become PM on the back of the votes of a few thousand swivel-eyed loons, no matter how briefly, is completely terrifying!

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:49 am
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As I recall, Back in 2018 Liz truss called for the government to be able to be sued by voters if they cock up budgets etc

anyone up for a class action?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 9:59 am
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To be fair, I think that level of absolute public humiliation would cause anyone some psychological problems.

At least the rest of us, if we make a massive **** up after receiving a promotion, the worst that happens is that our company knows about it, and that's bad enough to deal with. Imaging doing it on the world stage.

The problem with unelected leaders is that they've never been tested in an election campaign, and so there's a higher probability that they'll be rubbish IMO.

 
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@nickc - I believe that The Telegraph has a concerted campaign to rehabilitate her, probably because as it is, she's disproved a whole bunch of their pet economic theories in one fell swoop.

It seems to me that lots of decent Conservatives haven't realised how far right a) their press has become and b) the Conservative Party has followed.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 10:07 am
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 lots of decent Conservatives

And pray tell kind Sir, which temporal epoch does one inhabit?

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 10:14 am
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Line of the interview from Chris Mason, when she was moaning about being undermined by the ‘London Elite’ …

“oh come off it., it’s not just people in London wine bars that are concerned that the Prime Minister was outlasted by a lettuce!”

😂

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 10:17 am
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This is the essay about grift and right wing politics.

 
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And pray tell kind Sir, which temporal epoch does one inhabit?

That's the sort of attitude that puts people off the left.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 10:31 am
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London elite?

She went to Oxford Uni to study PPE and has, since then, worked in London based industry and Westminster government, rising to become PM. Surely she is the very definition on London elite.

 
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Surely she is the very definition on London elite.

Its the same with all of them. Johnson, Cummings, Farage and co.

They might have a country house for weekends but ultimately they are part of the London elite.

Johnson and Cummings get the bonus of complaining about the media elite whilst also being part of that circle.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 10:41 am
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I can’t make my mind up whether this publicity is Oxygen or Carbon Monoxide for her and the Tories. There’s definitely some Nitrous Oxide involved though…

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 11:19 am
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Its the same with all of them. Johnson, Cummings, Farage and co.

It's a form of cognitive dissonance - be part of the Elite while simultaneously proclaiming yourself to be a Man of the People.

Farage in particular is very good at it, pictured smoking and drinking in pubs just like the Common Man, railing against the Elites.

But actually being one of those Elites.

It's a way of making an invisible enemy of Elites but you're not one of Them, you're a Man of the People. But you are absolutely one of Them.

One long grift.

 
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I had a chuckle of recognition at someone on the radio saying she has a serious case of whatever the inverse of imposter syndrome is...that's probably as polite a thing you could say about her at the moment! Negligent Narcissism?

'Elite' in the right wing populist context is just a kneejerk piece of vocab trolled out automatically, along with anything ending in 'for' or 'of the British people'.

 
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That’s the sort of attitude that puts people off the left.

I think Enoch Powell and Pol Pot are left of this current bunch

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 12:13 pm
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It’s a form of cognitive dissonance – be part of the Elite while simultaneously proclaiming yourself to be a Man of the People.

Very much the archetype of the populist leader.  It's a classic play by the right ring populists, I understand the theories behind it, but what I still can't quite get is how they manage to get the public to swallow it.  As you say, Farage, Johnson etc successfully sell themselves as anti elite 'men of the people', and they are seemingly very successful at it! Many people appear to believe them!

 
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Just read that Beeb article on her book Elshalimo posted.

With a few substitutions here and there, they could have been commenting on some far right MAGA nut.

She really has gone full Trump.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 12:25 pm
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lots of decent Conservatives

I know a bunch of centrist conservatives who aren't voting for this shower next GE. They can't bring themselves to vote Labour, might vote lib dem, but most likely will either spoil ballots or not vote.

I genuinely think the smoking ban is a good thing, probably poorly executed but actually coming from a place of trying to do something good for once. Of course that means the Tories are going to bicker their way to inaction over it because it's too 'woke' or other such shithousery

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 12:35 pm
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but what I still can’t quite get is how they manage to get the public to swallow it.

It's the fact that their "logic" is never challenged in interviews or by the media in general when it is so blatantly false, or even the opposition. I know it is very on trend for STW to blame the victims (ie the voters) but we are really being failed by a corrupt system, the Westminster bubble and the media are not passive observers in all of this, they are absolutely complicit in driving false narratives that enable populism.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 12:49 pm
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The journalists do challenge them... interviews with Truss this week being prime examples... but the way this works is that those journalists, and their questions, are just painted as and seen as part of the problem.

 
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She might have been challenged a bit this week, but lets not pretend that is the norm. A considerable contributor to her "madness" is that she hasn't been challenged anywhere near enough through out her political life

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 1:07 pm
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The journalists do challenge them

Occasionally and generally with the tories only once they go way beyond sanity.

A great example is Truss. Despite her whining about the press attacking her budget when you look at the first couple of days it simply isnt supported. The right wing rags were praising her and the beeb was staying in line.

It was only after it became obvious things werent going well that the media switched to mentioning there might be a problem.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 1:20 pm
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Hold on - and I appreciate people are not going to like this - but Truss was the daughter of a maths professor and a teacher/nurse, and didn't grow up in London. She got into Oxford and was hired by a giant multinational as an accountant.  She did all that on merit.

I don't see her as an insider or a member of the elite in the same way that Rees-Mogg, and Stephen Kinnock, and Johnson are.

 
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And now here she is grifting away for a stance that, taken to its ultimate conclusion, will see the Tories legalise drugs.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 1:34 pm
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She did all that on merit.

I think firstly we have many recent examples that an oxbridge education, especially a PPE, doesn't signify brilliance or any special dedication, work ethic or intelligence. IMO it is likely that her "academic" father guided her through education to a level beyond her natural ability. An oxbridge education does however create a whole different world of entitlement and opportunity based on "establishment momentum" rather then merit, that is clearly an alien world to most of us inhabit.

 
Posted : 16/04/2024 1:44 pm
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