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I see the absolute lunatic is still maintain that none of the chaos was her fault.
Surely someone needs to put her somewhere safe and soundproof for her own sake
They played her speech on Five Live as she made it.
It was the unhinged ramblings of an absolute madwoman. She is completely and utterly hatstand
She's still totally unapologetic, completely unrepentant and still maintaining that she was absolutely right about everything all along. Apparently (surprise surprise!) its everybody else's fault, not hers... the Bank of England, Civil Servants, the 'financial orthodoxy', lefties, the unions, the media, The BBC (obviously) etc, etc etc...
She's living in some kind of alternative universe.
I bet Rishi is really thanking her for her contribution, which include this deluge on Twitter, which I'm sure the labour party will be retweeting. Its like she wasn't part of any of this and its nothing to do with her at all.
Madder than a bucket of spiders...
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1703697690381394308?s=20
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1703698679775830087?s=20
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1703699802238677211?s=20
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1703701632796496256?s=20
Surely someone needs to put her somewhere safe and soundproof for her own sake
If Liz Truss is the last gasp of the Tufton St neo-liberals then we can probably sleep easy at night. It really is amazing that every time the small state/low tax/pro-rich system fails, the likes of Truss come out and say 'that's because we didn't go far enough'. It's even more amazing that some people still believe them.
I pay a marginal tax rate of 100% on the proportion of my earnings that is deducted for tax.
I really really really wish just once interviewers and commentators would laugh in the face of any idiot using the fantasy term "marginal tax rate". As mad as the lettuce is, such concepts are allowed to become the real orthodoxy by a compliant media.
Her brain is like the contents of a bin lorry.
Rancid juice that spills out of a large opening.
MSP
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I pay a marginal tax rate of 100% on the proportion of my earnings that is deducted for tax.I really really really wish just once interviewers and commentators would laugh in the face of any idiot using the fantasy term “marginal tax rate”. As mad as the lettuce is, such concepts are allowed to become the real orthodoxy by a compliant media
I don't get it, isn't "marginal tax rate" a perfectly reasonable measure to use to describe progressive tax rates as income increases?
Can we have the lettuce back to see what it thinks? It's probably got more of an idea than she has.
Its mad how someones perception of themselves is so completely different from how the world perceives them, isn't it?
Everyone looks at Liz Truss and just thinks of the lettuce and sees her as nothing more than an object of ridicule and contempt, but for some reason she sees herself as some international stateswoman who everyone is waiting to hear words of wisdom from
Has there ever been a more delusional politician?
The rumour is that the dark money behind Tufton street is very unhappy that her libertarian, supply side economics has been shown up to for what it is by her disastrous budget, and that unless she continues to make these speeches, she ain't getting any more donations.
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Unfortunately they don't. Parts of the right wing press are pushing the "unfairly done to" story pretty hard and some people are lapping it up because it's coming from The Telegraph.
Every time she comes up with a new plan all I can think of is this:
We can't possibly do that Mr Flibbles. Who'd clean up the mess...
Parts of the right wing press are pushing the “unfairly done to” story pretty hard and some people are lapping it up because it’s coming from The Telegraph.
Indeed. I'm sure that this ultra-free-market nonsense will play very well with the swivel-eyed loons on the Tory Backbenches, who despite largely keeping it to themselves since her 49 day debacle still agree with every word she says.
They love a good conspiracy theory so I'm sure her blaming of everyone else but herself in her 'anti-growth coalition' twoddle is also something they agree with
I’m sure that this ultra-free-market nonsense will play very well with the swivel-eyed loons on the Tory Backbenches,
Its the same goons trying over & over to rehabilitate their small state , no tax, f-k the poor, trickle down nonsense , these Tufton st clowns have a lot of support from the RW press to
Rehabilitating Truss's image is doomed to failure, but you can bet she will keep on trying.
Indeed. I’m sure that this ultra-free-market nonsense will play very well with the swivel-eyed loons on the Tory Backbenches,
Well yes.
You only need to look at the mail and telegraph on the day of the budget. Full of praise for the daring leadership and true tory budget.
Followed by some worried silence.
Then a reverse ferret.
Then the attempt to rebuild based around the idea being sound but just the execution being slightly wrong.
All the Truss existence does is help other less confused right-wingers carry out the exact same plan - but with softer edges. There is no other plan other than expectations of growth and trickle-down.
The likes of Peter Bone and Bill Cash and the Hyacinth Buckets of the Tory “grass roots” adore her and help fuel The Truss narrative. Dangerous bunch of bigots.
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TBH we've been rather spoilt for choice the last few years.....
They love a good conspiracy theory so I’m sure her blaming of everyone else but herself in her ‘anti-growth coalition’ twoddle is also something they agree with
The anti-growth coalition has now been renamed 'the global left', and includes well known raging communists such as Rishi Sunak and Jeremy Hunt, the entire civil service, and probably the King himself.
She's just the IEA's useful idiot, grifting for the Tufton St thinktankers and RW US billionaires behind them. They are still not done trying to milk the UK, so they are just using her to keep their daft ideas in the news. And the Torygraph and Daily Heil are complicit putting her on the front pages.And who the F are the Institute for Government giving her a platform
She is so delusional that she thinks she is an intellectual, but hopefully enough of the the wider world realise she is washed up. My wife has LBC on in the background during the day, and the consensus seems to be she should F off and disappear.
She is so delusional that she thinks she is an intellectual,
She is absolute peak Dunning-Kruger material. Thick as mince but convinced she is some kind of hard-done-by genius.
Mrs Zip is listening to the Rory Stewart book. The bit on Liz Truss is frightening.
A complete ****ing idiot.
The passages in the Rory Stewart book are illuminating!
Listening to it as well.
John Crace on the money about ‘Radon Liz’
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1703822867207467013?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
She really is the unflushable turd.
Channel 4 news we’re saying that today was an attempt to re-ingratiate herself with the far right headbangers in the Tory party who will no doubt seize full control once they get shut of Rishi after they lose the general election.
You’d like to think she was a bit too mental even for them, but then just look at them
The bit where Stewart first meets Truss in her role as boss (DEFRA minister) is actually part of the free sample of the audiobook in his podcast feed this week. It's very funny (if you can avoid weeping).
https://spotify.link/qKhbH6KzcDb
It's on The Rest Is Politics podcast too.
I think it was David Davis on the News Agents a few weeks after she went, when asked if she'd just got absolutely everything wrong demurred and suggested it just wasn't handled very well and fundamentally the concepts were sound. These ideas are far from dead in their tracks.
Truss and her mate Kwazi still owe me £5k from my pension and I'm sure billions to others in this country. Why is she not in jail? Okay, an over simplification , but if some other person/body did the same to the UK's economy there would be calls for some kind of justice.
Are the 2 perpetrators members of the FSA? Can we get them struck off?
These ideas are far from dead in their tracks
Im sure there are some well funded think tanks debating over how they get these ideas back in the driving seat & popular with the mainstream- if they think Truss is person to do that though, then theyre really not the smartest bunch
Im sure there are some well funded think tanks debating over how they get these ideas back in the driving seat & popular with the mainstream
Sending out Liz to say 'It's all still the right policies, I just f***** it all up' is the first stage in that. She's clearly done a lot of damage and the billionaires have told her it's her mess and her job to clear it up.
kimbers
Full MemberIm sure there are some well funded think tanks debating over how they get these ideas back in the driving seat & popular with the mainstream- if they think Truss is person to do that though, then theyre really not the smartest bunch
I think given the options they have open in the short term they're just making her a scapegoat- keep encouraging her and telling her how right she is, keep sending her out, keep letting her look like an absolute tube, then after a while you just float the idea that the ideas were sound but she was incompetent and that it would have all worked out fine with a different person. Shouldn't work, but it definitely could.
Bear in mind also that the objective of these people isn't necessarily to have their ideas actually happen. For a lot of think tanks and even political movements, the goldilocks zone is to be in the area where it seems possible and so they can still hoover up funds and be in the public eye and all that comes with it, but where none of it ever actually gets put to the test.
Truss more popular than ever at Tory conference
Bottom right first picture - is that Hitler trying to fathom out modern tech?
Nope, trying to fathom how he came 19th in the most evil bastard in the room competition.
Can you imagine being so detached from reality that you think Truss is just a misunderstood genius stabbed in the back by the notoriously socialist banking elite?
It's got to be a mental illness surely?
I went to see Frankie Boyle tonight. He said she looks like the sort of person masturbates whilst thinking of new build houses.
That explains a lot
The grassroots of the party elected her leader, not Sunak, and it's clear that is still their position. It's now clear to any would-be leaders that they now have to position themselves economically to be the 'heir to Truss'. It's the definition of insanity.
Tory grassroutes, like my neighbour. When questioning the SNP poster I'd had erected on our frontage, really questioning.
Me - So you're voting Tory?
Them - Of course I am.
Me - Do you trust Johnson?
Them - No (laughing), of course not.
Me - Oh, so you're voting for someone you don't trust to be PM?
They turned and walked away.
Has there ever been anyone so unself-consious as that women? Her gawping smile desperate for approval after she delivers some more off-the-top-of-the-head playschool policy? Her speech was properly mad. I won't pretend to understand how dire the economic and social consequences of such unfunded tax-cuts would be on a nation already on its knees but I know a bit about housing and planning.
She has suggested we should build 500,000 homes per year. Before interest rate jumped and people had to stop buying bread so they could pay their mortgages or rent, England built just over 250k per annum. That was the post-Covid bounce period before things like Nationally Described Space Standards, Biodiversity Net Gain and the (also now cancelled) Nutrient Neutrality policies made securing planning consents even harder.
I wonder how she thinks we can double the number of new homes? Flats only? Micro-houses? Maybe we could use the fractured rock cavities we have exposed from fracking?
I can be sure of one thing though. No Tory will propose touching the Green Belt. Like the holes in your own belt, Green Belts needs to be reviewed every so often (15 years at present). We need a proper national conversation on the subject but no-one on any side is ever going to. Instead they repeat the tired matra of building on brownfield land. Again and again and again.
I haven't even mentioned the lack of resources, skilled tradesmen and even housebuilders that would all be structural barriers.
I honestly dont know who advises her or whether, like Alan Partridge pleading with Tony Hayers for a second series, she's just grasping at straws. There's more chance of monkeys playing tennis than building half a million homes per year.
He likely sees her as a disruptor and thinks that's great and that she is great.
I think she *is* a a disruptor but not in a good way! 😁
whereas she’s an empty sock puppet<br /><br />
I thought she reminded me of someone!
There must be conservative leadership in the US that is once again bold enough to call out hostile regimes as evil and a threat.”
Good for her to go and say that to the Republicans. All the MAGA Republicans are pro-Putin and doing their best to undermine support for UKR.
You make a good point.
Resignation honours list finally published - one new peer for each day and a half she was in office. If this seems as wrong to you as it does to me, there’s an ERS petition.
I’d write to my MP if he wasn’t a (doomed come the election) Tory sock puppet.
More totally shameless croneyism?
What a surprise.
As John Crace just tweeted: imagine the embarrassment of accepting an honour from Liz Truss, knowing that everyone will be laughing at you for the rest of your life
At least the ERS petition seems to be getting quite a few signatures (and yes - I know it probably won't make any difference!)
So a fair few on Truss' list and also the likes of Tim Martin (wetherspoons boss) seem to be honouring those who brought us Brexit, so the most embarrassing failure of a UK Prime Minister in all of history, has given honours to those who brought us the most embarrassing failure for the UK, this has to be the deaths knell for honours, it's not even funny anymore.
Time for an elected second chamber.
These new appointees to the House of Lords pour petrol on the already burning shit of recent years.
Matthew Elliot in parliament? Put his name to the people… let’s take control.
I’d write to my MP if he wasn’t a (doomed come the election) Tory sock puppet.
I wouldn't worry, Truss has just helped to even further discredit the whole the archaic nonsense which an incoming Labour government will abolish. And it won't come too soon.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-12-05/labour-would-abolish-indefensible-house-of-lords-pledges-starmer
Someone wrote on Twitter/X that the Truss honour should always have an asterisk against it.
one new peer for each day and a half she was in office.
She "only" nominated three peers. The rest are various other awards.
Still impressive considering how many of those days in office she wasnt allowed to break anything due to the mourning period.
Yeah, you kind of forget that. 49 days is the headline figure for her time in number 10, but most of that time she wasn’t actually ‘in office’ after she Killed the Queen
Has anyone done the maths on how many tens of billions of pounds she cost the economy, per day, while actually ‘in power’?
And there are still a number of Tory MPs who are so unhinged, they would actually put her back in number 10 in a heartbeat.
A damehood for someone who served as a junior minister for a month. A normal person would be too ashamed to accept.
Don't know about the economy overall but the absolute plummet in my pension investment coincided perfectly with her time in post and it's only now starting to claw it's way back , and very slowly at that. I'll be lucky to get back to parity in another two years at best.
Nothing for Kwasi then?
Well she did throw him under the bus as soon as it became politically expedient, so there's that.
And the most annoying thing about that is that there’s not a shred of contrition or humility. Quite the opposite. She’s out there, chock full of entitlement and totally devoid of self-awareness telling anyone who’ll listen how she was right all along.
I can’t work out if she’s in some state of denial or she’s just genuinely so ****ing thick she actually still believes this rubbish her Tufton Street paymasters spout?
It’s both, isn’t it?
It’s both Binners… that and the raving mad cows disease she has.
Been spending time with the older (Conservative) generation down in Cornwall, she came up in conversation a lot... several of them having met her and sat by her at meals... one even worked with her... all before she was PM... not a single one had a kind word for her... all said she understood absolutely nothing on any issue that came up... and blanked anyone who hid or didn't have power within the party. Those with a legal background the most scathing.
Nothing for Kwasi then?<br /><br />
who?
ha ha, very good
@chrismac It’s not like we’ve not been burnt by Lab before on constitutional stuff - they made a manifesto commitment in ‘97 to introduce fair votes, then rolled it back as soon as they won a landslide on FPTP.
FOI request asking for cost details of the numerous long-distance flights that Truss took in her short lived time as PM and as Foreign Sec before that...
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-liz-truss-massive-flight-food-booze-bill-revealed-australia-foi/
Thought Rishi had withdrawn the whip after her appearance with Steve Bannon supporting Yaxley-Lennon as a hero.....
He should have withdrawn the whip from Mad Lizzie and Cruella but he didn’t because he hasn’t got the balls, because they have much more support amongst his backbenchers and he knows it
As for her bills for flights and catering, she seems to think she’s some kind of medieval monarch. One springs immediately to mind…
