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he seems a decent enough PM
I think that is merely by comparison. You've had your expectations lowered so far that someone who doesn't crash the economy in a fortnight or get caught red handed having illicit pissups is seen as 'decent enough'.
Sunak is just the least worst option.
She must be really frustrated with the anti-growth coalition in charge. Why are they trying to drive the economy into recession when they could simply choose growth instead, like she did?
Maybe it’s a ploy by Boris’s backers. Don’t like Sunak? Well, if Boris isnt allowed back this is who’ll you’ll get again!
She must be really frustrated with the anti-growth coalition in charge. Why are they trying to drive the economy into recession when they could simply choose growth instead, like she did?
The tragic (and worrying in equal measure) thing here is that this is exactly what Truss thinks is true. In a way, it is, but only in the special universe that exists only in the otherwise empty space between her ears.
So Liz Truss is moving her attention from merely focusing on the UK's economic woes to seeking solutions on a more global scale.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/kwasi-kwarteng-british-shanker-singham-b2367874.html
I guess that if the UK wouldn't listen to her the rest of the world might.
Who’s going to listen to Shanker Singham, after what he’s helped to do to the UK economy? Remember the Legatum Institute?
Stand back folks... Mrs Self-Awareness is back
I'd love to hear her thoughts on the economist Kate Raworth, and the principles of Doughnut economics. I fear old Liz would struggle with the basics though.
FFS.
She must have got all the best smoke and mirrors experts on board.
Hope she is investing some of her annual (failed PM) salary in this project.
Here is a fuller article:
I found this Liz Truss quote particularly interesting:
"If over the next two decades the UK economy could achieve annual GDP per capita growth of 3% - as was achieved in the UK in 1950s"
The postwar reconstruction of the 1950s obviously involved big government with the establishment of a universal welfare state and massive public spending on projects such as huge and unprecedented social housing projects, all the things which Margaret Thatcher passionately railed against 30 years later.
A new economic organisation, set up by Liz Truss, will launch on Wednesday, with a report claiming the average British person is £10,000 worse off than people in the US
...Following a Decade of Tory Rule, during which Liz Truss was part of the cabinet, nicely rounded off with her stint as PM. Definitely a Safe pair of hands...
I do like the name she's given it though "The Growth Commission" I imagine all the "Experts" she's recruited will like putting that on their CVs.
If this was the end goal of her grift, to set up yet another RW economic "think tank" I honestly can't think of a worse candidate to lead it.
I somehow doubt they'll be taking many TV bookings off of Chatham House, The Heritage Foundation or the Adam Smith Institute when a professional bullshitter is needed.
It's more likely that News Night book someone from The Growth Commission when they want to take the piss...
She's not very bright though Ernesto. To say the least. This is what it would be like trying to explain the inherent contradiction in those two opposing positions to her...
Hope she is investing some of her annual (failed PM) salary in this project.
They'll be no UK money involved at all, hers or anyone else's. It'll all be USA money, via offshores.
I struggle to see Liz Truss setting up a teddy bears tea party, let alone an 'economic organisation'. Whatever that is. So, what actually is an 'economic organisation' ? Is it a legitimate sounding combination of words that really means 'opaquely backed and dubiously funded propaganda generator' ?
Well knock me down with a feather.
Looking at their co-chairmen.
Douglas Williams: Couldnt see an obvious match although one story says Douglas McWilliams instead which seems more plausible.
However the second chair Shanker Singham just happens to be a IEA bod.
Qu'ell surprise.
So, what actually is an ‘economic organisation’ ?
A mouthpiece for (usually American) disaster capitalist tax dodgers
She's just a "name" to stick on the front, as mentioned above, a quick search deeper into it will reveal the real money and direction behind it. Still, good luck with using the world's worst PM to front it!
But the people who still think Brexit was a great idea, also still think Liz was right and it was the 'lefty economic establishment' that caused the chaos not the fact that she's as thick as mince
that caused the chaos not the fact that she’s as thick as mince
Well no because it wasnt just her but their ideas in general.
They have been blaming her for failing to explain the genius of the ideas though.
So, what actually is an ‘economic organisation’ ?
Google 'list of think tanks' and you'll see a big old list of strangely familiar "institutes", "organisations", "funds" and "foundations" dig a little further and you'll find these are propped up with the spare change of a few conservative cajillionaires (many but not all from 'Merica).
What these outfits tend to do is a mixture of propaganda and lobbying on the behalf of their pay masters. they frequently turn up on the news either with a "report" or "paper" telling the world we need fewer taxes and/or regulations because moneys. Or they offer someone up to speculate on current affairs often with a Neo-lib, money bitch spin...
My first thought is that PR blitz from Truss is being paid for by someone
She is also obviously desperate to rebuild her credibility, but that ship has surely sailed
Well no because it wasn't just her but their ideas in general.
Its quite the reflection of her frankly staggering lack of self-awareness that she's still blissfully unaware that all she is is a useful sock-puppet for the global tax-dodging uber-rich.
The only incredible thing is that they still want her as their sock puppet. She's not exactly a source of credibility, is she?
The only incredible thing is that they still want her as their sock puppet. She’s not exactly a source of credibility, is she?
Perhaps but it's all just bandwidth for the message.
If the goal is to control the general narrative and its relatively cheap to fund yet another think tank. The money bags she schmoozed in yank land probably perceive her as being sufficiently on message and having a level of public visibility to them her actual standing is probably a bit secondary.
If the population of Airstip one recognise one of their former PMs and hear the capitalist claptrap she spouts, a proportion of those will hoover up the "facts" she relates, re-spout them on SM and before you know it previously wild notions have become a "widespread belief"...
What does it cost them? a couple of million? Rent a London office, pop Lizzy and the usual suspects on a retainer, grab a few Oxbridge Grads to do the donkey work and hey presto you're in business...
Am I the only one who has a sense of woe whenever this thread gets an update?
"WTF has she said it done now?"
She needs locking up/institutionalised.
The really interesting thing will be seeing if she's actually understood the nature of her new working relationship; that she is no longer a free agent able to spout at will, but a bought and paid for mouthpiece, required to stay on message...
Can she adhere to the fluff they want her to relay to the great unwashed of the UK? Especially if/when that brings her back into contact with the news media?
I reckon she'll struggle with that one...
She is also obviously desperate to rebuild her credibility, but that ship has surely sailed
They’d be running submarine trips to that ship if it was still a thing.
I’m annoyed that Truss is still around for me to even care / comment. She should just foxtrot oscar into some crappy consulting job. Horrid person.
The most galling thing of all is that her infinite stupidity having caused financial hardship to so many she will, just like the rest of them, fail upwards
I imagine 'right-wing, think-tank sock puppet' is another handsomely remunerated gig on top of the rewards for failure that her mercifully brief but catastrophic tenure as PM has afforded her
I can't wait to see her honours list. Because there sure as shit will be an honours list and I suspect it'll more than likely be bigger an even more shameless than Johnsons. Right wing think-tanks espousing batshit crazy economic theories are sure to feature heavily. Arise Sir Tufton Street
Am I the only one who has a sense of woe whenever this thread gets an update?
Not necessarily - there's always the chance that she's been egged or lamped by someone.
@alpin No. But then I feel that for both the Johnson and Trump threads as well, although the Trump ne is usually followed by "... or is he dead now?"
Bit confused here, is it an economic organisation or an economics organisation?
“… or is he dead now?”
That’s how I feel for the threads on this odious trio of ****s. I feel like I can start to understand the hatred Thatcher got from various sections of society.
As a gift to the satirists she really is a little gem
A B C, It's easy as 1 2 3, as simple as
do re mi.
Economics is harder.
in that twitter pic
"The United Kingdom of Elsewhere in the World.
I didn't realise there was this far reaching coalition - it's certainly making us look very much like outsiders now.
It's been attacked by the Anti B Coalition
It’s been attacked by the Anti B Coalition
I assume it got a last minute edit and they removed "halfwitted IEA and friends policies" but failed to tidy up.
So I knew Wallace pulled out of the leadership election last summer because he was having an affair
I didnt realise he'd been banging the lettuce herself!
I thought it was her chancellor in the frame for drug fuelled romps?
Or maybe..... 🤢
'Banging the lettuce' sounds like something from the profanisaurus
"Sorry I'm late, only I was banging the lettuce and my foot got stuck in the cistern"
I feel like there's a quality 'Anti-growth' pun to be made here, but I just can't think of a good one... I guess we'll have to focus on:
I thought it was her chancellor in the frame for drug fuelled romps?
Well they certainly weren't paying much attention to basic economics and finance while holed up in Chequers...
I'm just surprised she didn't use an affair as an [s]Instabanger[/s] Instagram opportunity...
Wallace's defence: 'I was only giving the ferret a run.'
An hour ago to me Ben Wallace was the "one competent recent member of the cabinet"
Can't think of many people whove fallen faster and further in my estimation.
Wow
Really? Liz 'Madder than a basket full of Stoats' Truss.... really?
My opinion of him hasn't changed one bit. It wasn't that high anyway, but this story smells like nonsense.
Well it looks like Ben wallace has definitely been down to the pork market judging by the grin on his face, hahah!
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Literally sleeping her way into power.
Really? Liz ‘Madder than a basket full of Stoats’ Truss…. really?
Maybe it was for the sex?
Wallace won't be the first Tory MP that Truss has had an extramarital affair with, Mark Field has also been there. Maybe the word has gone around the Parliamentary Conservative Party that Truss is good in the sack?
Everyone is good at something.
That's very charitable of you to say that
And I assumed she was nobbing the Dark Destroyer, maybe right maybe wrong.
Nigel Benn ?
Wow I used to think he was alright
Maybe the word has gone around the Parliamentary Conservative Party that Truss is good in the sack?
She did do a good job of screwing the country.
Truss good in the sack?
Maybe, but you'd need to be 'in the mood' first and, well, honestly... how could anyone...?
But then Wallace is no oil painting either. Must've been a desperate night at the Commons disco.
Urgh. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Let's just hope it damages their careers and their lives and leave it at that.
Am I the only one who has a sense of woe whenever this thread gets an update?
“WTF has she said it done now?”
Alpin could have read my mind on this and its been proved spot on 🤢
Maybe, but you’d need to be ‘in the mood’ first and, well, honestly… how could anyone…?
I get the impression that some people are repulsed by Liz Truss's politics, her physical appearance, if it is important, is pretty average imo.
For Tory politicians such as Ben Wallace and Mark Field Truss's politics obviously isn't going to be a problem. She probably screams in moments of intimacy how big she wants her tax cuts, education budget slashed, and other durty tory talk.
^^^
Nah, I reckon Wallace was just thinking about Penny Mordaunt.
She probably screams in moments of intimacy how big she wants her tax cuts, education budget slashed, and other durty tory talk.
Being a Tory MP just seems to be one long taxpayer funded swinger's party where you get to have several affairs and then get given honours at the end of it all.
Being a Tory MP just seems to be one long taxpayer funded swinger’s party
So it might have just been bad luck that Thick Lizzy whipped Wallace's car keys out of the bowl?
That makes more sense, TBH.
I didnt realise he’d been banging the lettuce herself!
I was told this by a national newspaper journo when she was elected. There was another senior politician she'd been having it off with, as well as at least one Spad.
Back doors have also been mentioned. Sorry if that's TMI.
Let’s just hope it damages their careers
More than being the shortest-lived PM in history and piloting the economy into a mountainside? Maybe.
😀
It would seem revolving doors are apt given she has had much publicised previous shenanigans.
I feel sorry for the family. Imagine being her daughter knowing that a) she's an idiot savant (without the savant bit), b) she screwed the economy and millions of people will suffer for years, c) she has zero self awareness and d) she's a dirty dog
Using her as bio-fuel is the only future I'd find palatable.
revolving doors
back doors
Pork Markets and Hedge Funds, da da dee dee dee these are a few of my favourite things...
Imagine being her daughter...
Imagine being her dad.
https://www.indy100.com/politics/liz-truss-dad-tory-leader-2658451266
It was a disappointing night in, after Ben Wallace joined the anti growth coalition
It was a disappointing night in, after Ben Wallace joined the anti growth coalition
Good work!
45 days in office gives her the right to receive £115,000 yearly allowance, for the rest of her life.
Which is a rule introduced by John Major, a former Tory prime minister who is surprisingly popular with some on here.
Before John Major introduced the rule former PMs got sweet FA when they left office.
They get a terrific pension.
Alpin could have read my mind on this and its been proved spot on 🤢
Honestly, I'm surprised that she's a serial tory shagger.
Think I've only ever knowingly slept with one tory type, but then I'm working class scum.
Few surprises in Liz’s Lords stuffing list…
The nominated life peers are reported to include Sir Jon Moynihan, a Conservative party donor, Matthew Elliott, who ran the Brexit campaign in 2016, and Ruth Porter, Truss’s deputy chief of staff in No 10.
Another life peer is understood to be Mark Littlewood, the outgoing head of the Institute of Economic Affairs, a thinktank that had supported her mini-budget.
The only surprising thing is the claim that there are those within the Tory ranks in possession of an embarrassment threshold?
Certainly not something that ever troubled Lizzy
well that's depressed me Kelvin,
One source told the newspaper they felt it would be “humiliating” to receive an honour from Truss
A taste of your medicine and all that. I'd smile at the irony of Kwasi Kwarteng admitting his tracker mortgage has risen, if it wasn't for the vast earnings that make it a slight inconvenience for him.
Cant believe she left off Dorris!
Are these just proposed or actually going through 😳