Liz! Truss!

Announcing her departure by end of November or sooner

Or will she just dig in, barricade the doors and activate the Mark Francois emergency commando protocol to defend the PM at all costs?

https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/status/1583047225164279808?t=q9OkYuSAlYGNHR4HHHTR0g&s=19

Has she resigned yet?

Has she resigned yet?

This lady is not for turning!*
Spokesbod has just gone for the optimistic plans to remain in office beyond the 31st Oct.
Alledgedly she has asked to see him. Possibly asking if she withdraws the whip from those MPs who didnt vote yesterday does that get the numbers below the threshold.

*Terms and conditions apply

Maybe she's telling him to get the back benches under control or the next person she sees will be the King... I wouldn't put it past her to go scorched earth on them.

Maybe she’s telling him to get the back benches under control or the next person she sees will be the King…

This is quite likely I suspect. She'll go out with all guns blazing, she's got nothing left to lose.

Relevant as she was being interviewed in her capacity as an executive member of the 1922 committee:

Cates, who represents a Red Wall seat that flipped from Labour to Conservative at the last election, also said the Tories would be "toast" at the next general election unless they tackle illegal immigration.

I don't get this? Do they really think they can claw this back by appealing to the worst of their base?

I know it's the Trump playbook, but they've lost so much ground all over that winning a fraction back isn't going to help, I'm assuming that even people who care about immigration* have mortgages.

*in the negative sense

Anyway… we do have a thread for people to moan about Starmer “doing nothing” despite the evidence.

It's your interpretation that it's 'moaning', I made an observation, ie, that I couldn't recall Starmer giving a single interview on the telly in the last week,

I also said that it was probably a wise move to leave it to others as he hardly inspires and energizes people.

If he has given an interview this morning as claimed it wouldn't surprise me as he has a bit of form concerning turning up to the party late.

When he is PM he will probably have to rethink his strategy though, not commenting or taking decisive positions until things have moved on won't sit as well in his new role. He will have to say a lot more, I hope he is prepared for it - waiting for the Tories to implode won't be an option when he is PM, although he might still be able to leave it to others to deal with the media.

What the hell do we do?

Am I the only one hovering on this page right now…?

[ EDIT: not supposed to be clickbait, sorry… that’s a link to join the Labour party… seriously considering it this morning ]

@Kelvin - I have been thinking about that for a few weeks now. Your post made me finally do it.

Never been a member of a party in my life but this shitshow cannot carry on.

I'm going with the conspiracy theory that Boris was always coming back (Hasta la vista anyone?) and this is devious unsubtle plan to show how bad its is without dear old Boris, and the next two years sees a rise in Conservative popularity as he takes them to the election*

*I wouldn't put it past this lot in the slightest

I joined after his conference speech.

not commenting or taking decisive positions until things have moved on won’t sit as well in his new role

What bullshit. Labour have been leading the government on everything from public health measures during Covid to paying the bills this winter. Time to get this indecisive party... who only ever act too late, and then find ways to funnel state spending into the pockets of their backers... out, and Labour in.

**** it... I'm joining now...

kelvin
Full Member
**** it… I’m joining now…

Me too

**** it… I’m joining now…

Don't give them your real email address. The amount of spam you get about pointless constituency meetings and votes is ridiculous. 😀

Not sure why you're all rushing to join the LP. It doesn't make a labour victory more likely.

im not moaning just telling it as i see it...

I just feel the labour party need to get ahead, I agree that Labour have been leading with tories jumping over to their (labour's) policies when their own fail, but the average voter won't see that, and if labour don't get ahead and be heard (im only seeing a full page of tory stories on the front page of the bbc at least) then come an election the (tory led) media will take over again and just lie to ensure they remain in power...

Tbh im sick of this crap the country is spiralling into a disaster of insane proportions, as has been said people will die of cold and possibly starvation this winter and the government doesnt care, I just want to see someone that cares about the country and the planet in power working for both. The thought of Boris and his odious cabinet back in power really makes me want to just take my kids and leave...

A gross oversimplification... but the truth.

It doesn’t make a labour victory more likely.

Paid a year up front. In case they need fighting funds sooner rather than later.

Truss will be out later today to be replaced by that odious toad Coffey, who has just arrived @No10

Truss will be out later today to be replaced by that odious toad Coffey, who has just arrived @No10

If this is true then the government must collapse.

How can they carry on?

It’s not true.

Would Coffey as PM (hypothetically) actually help? Is she liked by anyone?

not commenting or taking decisive positions until things have moved on won’t sit as well in his new role

What bullshit.

Honestly he might get away with it as leader of the Opposition, especially when the Tories are committing suicide, but it will be a whole new ball game when he PM - he will need to react immediately, and preferably not leave it a couple of days to comment.

tagnut69
Free Member
Truss will be out later today to be replaced by that odious toad Coffey, who has just arrived @No10

Gawd help us, I think you might be right. Antibiotics, fags and whiskey all round!

Truss will be out later today to be replaced by that odious toad Coffey, who has just arrived @No10

Steady on, you gave me quite a fright there, I don't like this new form of comedy based on shocking the audience into nervous laughter rather than actually telling a joke.

I just feel the labour party need to get ahead

Labour and Starmer have done much better recently, although TBF being leader of the labour party is a very easy job at the moment. They're starting to flesh out some good policies on green energy and employment. This morning at the TUC Starmer promised to ban zero hour contracts and repeal the 2016 (and any new) trade union legislation. It seems the more the tories self-destruct, the more Starmer feels safe in adopting many of the previous leadership's policies. The danger is whether Starmer loses his nerve when up against someone like Hunt or Sunak.

Would Coffey as PM (hypothetically) actually help? Is she liked by anyone?

Imperial Tobacco?

Sure this Coffey thing is more likely to be about the fracas in the HoP lobby last night, as she was a protagonist, no?

what is a reasonably practical ‘shortest’ time?

25 days I believe

I don't think that's right. The tories would need to go through the normal bs to select a new leader first, which takes a good couple of months. I don't think they'd throw someone straight into a general election without going to the members first.

Coffey!!!??? They're fooooooking insane if they think that specimen of a human will make things better.

That was my thoughts Fadda.

The tories would need to go through the normal bs to select a new leader first, which takes a good couple of months

I don't think that's correct....if a GE is triggered the parties just have to get on with it..the electoral Commission isn't obliged to wait for them to elect a new leader

Sure this Coffey thing is more likely to be about the fracas in the HoP lobby last night, as she was a protagonist, no

Imagine being accosted by that. She’s like an evil Mrs Doubtfire!

Coffeys the deputy pm, no?

What a world....

Well, Daily Mail says PM Truss will be out soon.

Looking at all the candidates from Tory Party I can say only Penny Mordaunt has a better chance of stabilizing the boat. Sunak is okay as tacticians but does not posses the leadership strength. The rest are not worthy of a mention. Jeremy, Chinese "influencer" Hunt can take a hike.

As for the oppositions, don't be smug coz you are in the same boat. You too don't have someone that can command leadership role. You think Starmer can? He is care taker (temporary leader).

There will be no quick fix during the current climate.

Many governments will fall as predicted. Yes, I said it in the other threads.

(apparently, think it's BBC news, already 90 governments are in trouble).

p/s: I say just pass the baton to Starmer. No need to have an election. I mean choose who? They are all incapable of innovative thinking but digging themselves into a deep hole. Oh ya ... I ain't voting for Labour btw ... LOL!

I'm cancelling Netflix.

This is much better.

I’m cancelling Netflix.

This is much better.

More to come I am afraid if the energy crisis is not fixed and I don't mean for 3 years.

She's making a statement at 1.30, this might be it

Wonder if she will try to burn the place down with her announcement?
Come on for an election

She’s making a statement at 1.30, this might be it

Hhmmm ... what an embarrassment in a grand scale. Sorry for her but this is not a time for weak leadership.

Can any of the politics experts explain something for me:

How did the fracking vote get turned into a vote of no confidence? As far as I can tell Labour are saying the Tories did it, and the Tories are saying it was Labour. Does anyone know the answer?

One more politician! thread heading for the archives.

Wonder if she will cry? I hope so.

Lecturn out. Is this it?

Lettuce might win it

She is about to announce ........

Statement incoming, I am meant to be working FFS can't they keep it to the evening entertainment slot in the broadcasting schedule.

Superb opportunism by the person on the phone!

it wasn't a vote of no confidence, it was being used as a bell weather for whether there was still support. ie: back me in this vote or get chucked out of the party.

How did the fracking vote get turned into a vote of no confidence? As far as I can tell Labour are saying the Tories did it, and the Tories are saying it was Labour. Does anyone know the answer?

LOL! Stop thinking. There is an energy crisis at the moment and nobody is going to stand up to be the scapegoat coz that's a political career gone.

Wonder if she will cry? I hope so.

Why? She is human after all.

Why? She is human after all.

You powers of observation have failed again.

Be so funny if they let her give her speech

And then just lock the door to No10 so she can't get back in

Please god please don't let Coffey be the caretaker PM....

Although at least she'll be out ofthe job so insanely unsuited to her...

shermer75
Free Member
Can any of the politics experts explain something for me:

How did the fracking vote get turned into a vote of no confidence? As far as I can tell Labour are saying the Tories did it, and the Tories are saying it was Labour. Does anyone know the answer?

I'm not an expert but...

It was an obvious trap to get Con mp's to out themselves as supporting fracking which will go against them in a GE as the general populating are not keen on it.

Government turned the vote into a vote on the government/ Truss basically and really, totally skrewed it up.

A simple trap set by Labour that has exceeded their wildest dreams as even they couldn't imagine that Truss would bugger it up so badly!

So apart from the unions and immigrants, who else do you think she will blame, pixies?

Labour brought the motion to Parliament as opposed to the Govt.

Tortes don’t like the fact that the opposition took over the legislative agenda so she made it a “back me or else” Sadly it was an issue that a lot of MPs feel strongly over.

Iirc if she calls a GE then she'll stay as PM to fight it. There won't be a leadership election until after when they get beat and she resigns.

Please, please, please... let the door open and she be unceremoniously and unwillingly shoved out of it.

Looking at all the candidates from Tory Party I can say only Penny Mordaunt has a better chance of stabilizing the boat

I think she'll be in as a caretaker PM. Monday was her job interview in the commons.

Unless the deputy steps up just for laughs.

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She's late...!

A simple trap set by Labour that has exceeded their wildest dreams as even they couldn’t imagine that Truss would bugger it up so badly!

Yes, wait until Labour is in power. Probably will be even more funny when Labour keeps drumming on climate change related stuff ...

Husband out with her, she gone

Gone

She’s late…!

...dragging her out from under her desk!

She's blaming Putin!

Shes going

Truss and her husband together.... seems like this is it, she's listing her accomplishments in her time in office.

With her husband, so she’s on the way

Woop!

She's resigned live BBC

Short and sweet.....
Off you f...

Christ, another ****ing leadership election...

Ffs another bloody leadership election. Don't they get the hint, gtfo tories

Didnt actually say resign though, odious little b1atch..

another leadership battle...!??

Has she re... oh.

About time they asked us what we think - if they had a spine!

At least she had a smile on her face

what a sate ths country is in

and reset again

https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1583073716346683392

I've got stuff in the fridge that lasted longer

The lettuce wins. No GE though