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Sweet lord preserve us, she now gets her own thread.
Buckle up everyone.
She had one before but was closed.
The woman is characterless. Maybe that's what we need for a bit?
C'mon Lizzy please put Pritti Vacant on the back benches. 🙏
Nothing I have seen of her makes me think anything other than we are ****.
She had one before but was closed.
Ah, I did have a good rummage before putting this up, that would explain it.
2 pages until some of the big $hitters start saying it is starmers fault.
Truss is basically a fraggle made into human form, absolutely nothing alive behind the eyes
More cheese!
Fraggles have harmed no one leave them out of it.
I wonder how long it will be before the usual select few turn this into yet another Corbyn thread with incredibly predictable results.
We're going to buggered harder than Ron Jeremy but with less warmth!
Some IEA nutter on the radio, I think it was Mark Littlewood, talking about how Truss reducing taxes and creating enterprise zones with reduced regulation will save us all.
These people are ****ing evil.
Never mind the working time directive, I think they would like to go back and tear up The Reform Act.
We’re going to buggered harder than Ron Jeremy but with less warmth!
I though Ron did most of the buggering?
Well that's the union done and a trade war with Europe started, probably both done before breakfast.
Starmer needs to up his game.
😉 Sorry couldn't resist.
C’mon Lizzy please put Pritti Vacant on the back benches. 🙏
You’ve seen who she’ll be replacing her with?
Yet another of many, many depressingly negative answers to the question ‘it can’t be worse than Boris, surely?’
Say hello to Home Secretary Braverman
Strap yourself in folks. It’s going to be quite a ride
First stop: trigger article 16 to start a full on trade war with the EU. Then god only knows… bringing back hanging? Declaring war on France?
C’mon Lizzy please put Pritti Vacant on the back benches. 🙏
Imagine sacking Patel cos she’s not right wing enough!
Well she's got what she wanted. A photo opportunity with the Queen!
On the plus side at least the Tories have shown the vacuity of identity politics. Thatcher did less for women than any PM since 1945 etc etc
Braverman is terrifying, hope you're not too attached to any of your rights to hold the government to account via peaceful protest or judicial review.
Well she’s got what she wanted. A photo opportunity with the Queen!
I wonder how many official photographers she’ll have on the (taxpayers) payroll to traipse around after her? She’ll need to hire another private plane for them as well as her own
The woman is characterless.
Strange, I don't think she is at all. Obviously less character than Johnson but imo a lot more than Theresa May. And probably no less than most other current senior politicians or former PM Gordon Brown.
Braverman is terrifying, hope you’re not too attached to any of your rights to hold the government to account via peaceful protest or judicial review.
She'll have Truss' backing there...
Protests, strikes, working only paid and contracted hours... all rights that are up for grabs...
https://twitter.com/MartinSLewis/status/1566800827037147146?s=20&t=opP_1zxgSUres-UGN5jp9A
The only game in town this next couple of weeks.
I heard this morning that the worlds only human oxymoron is in line for Foreign Secretary.
FFS how has it come to this, where James Cleverly gets a position like that?
👆
We’ll all be as poor as a church mouse who’s wife has just run off with another church mouse, and taken all the cheese.
Mp for Braintree. Someone has a sense of humour.
I can't believe she's only 47!
She had one before but was closed.
By the looks of the URL, (liz-truss-3) she's had 2 before! I'm sure she'll be thrilled with that, her aims have only ever been about self aggrandisement after all.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/truss-pledges-to-look-competent-in-comparison-20220905225396
Despite all of the red meat thrown down for the Tory members during the hustings, I think there's every likelyhood that we're about to see some heavyweight regulation of the Energy Companies in the form of price capping and/or some huge state spending in the form of QE to help people out.
As always, Socialism to the rescue in times of a real state crisis.
Just about sums up the whole shambolic excuse for leadership we now have…
“Thousands of years of British history and this is how it ends. Leading the world in innovation, in the arts, all of that and now we’re at the level of a third-world country where the dictator’s daughter becomes leader while he has a nice year off.
“Everything we’ve said, everything we’ve done, has brought us to the point of Liz Truss. It was all worthless because now we’re at Liz Truss. ****ing hell.”
I think there’s every likelyhood that we’re about to see some heavyweight regulation of the Energy Companies in the form of price capping
Wouldn't that be yet another U turn?
Do you trust her to negotiate any thing decent with the energy companies? All she will do is spread the payments of over the next few years. We still pay huge money to their shareholders. Better than the current situation but still shit.
Besides I know people who will not be able to afford their bills this winter without the massive forecast increase.
Just about sums up the whole shambolic excuse for leadership we now have…
They purged all the competent Tories over Brexit, so all that are left are those that either genuinely thought it was a good idea or had no backbone whatsover and are happy to pretend it was a good idea. So we have either genuine morons or spineless individuals happy to be a moron.
Quite interesting that each Tory PM is worse than the last and in all cases the last one was abysmal. There is no depth to which they cannot fall....
Tbf my expectations for Truss are so low that she's going to exceed them , right ??? 😳
Made me smile
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A newspaper in France has described Liz Truss as the Iron weathervane (or weathercock), in a reference to her Thatcherite pretensions and changing position on Brexit,
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Anyway - my bet is she'll be gone before the next election....
Where can we place that bet? I want a piece of that action.
My other half calls her 'Liz Le Pen'.
Can't believe any meeting twixt Truss and energy companies won't involve energy companies getting bigger profits and the poor energy users getting ripped off still either with still mental prices or some dodgy scheme where we end up paying for massive payrises for the bosses for the next 20 years.
We still pay huge money to their shareholders.
Or to the oil companies’ shareholders?
Long stopped thinking the Tories would do anything but continue torying. It wouldn't have mattered who they had up front.
The next election is the only way out.
Let’s hope people grab it. My current instinct is that this wasted summer has made kicking this government out more likely, not less, but we’ll see…
I await the next two years of Liz's neoliberal horseshit with bated breath
Most of us are f****d. 172k people who won't be just decided that for us
What you need to bear in mind is Truss is the pliant puppet of the ERG, brittania unchained and Atlantic bridge lot.
She is spectacularly dim under most types of intelligence.
What she is there for is to do the bidding of these hardline far right nutters. They thought they had their pliant puppet in Johnson but he turned out not to be so pliant.
So long as she does their bidding she remains pm. If she goes off script she will be ousted quickly.
She has no room for manoeuvre at all. She will do as they say.
And yes. The uk is fubar
Patel Resigns.
Strange, I don’t think she is at all. Obviously less character than Johnson but imo a lot more than Theresa May
A high watermark indeed
I’ve tins in my kitchen cupboards with more charisma than May or Truss
It’s going to be interesting to see how the malfunctioning speak-your-weight machine goes down after the pantomime of Boris, given that a lot of Tories still love him, even after all his shit
We’ll all be as poor as a church mouse who’s wife has just run off with another church mouse, and taken all the cheese.
Evening Mr Blackadder.
given that a lot of Tories still love him, even after all his shit
She’s been careful to praise and show her support for him, and loyalty to him. All change… no change.
Patel Resigns.
👋🏼
Does the Rwanda policy stay? Do we still have our rights further eroded in law as planned? If so… all change… no change.
Technically 81k people decided less than half the Tory members....
Very ironic. Are you referring to her backing of a bill mandating referendums to require half of all eligible voters to vote in favour for them to pass, rather than just half of those who place a vote?
She is spectacularly dim under most types of intelligence.
This is how this thread is going to end being isn't it - another thread consisting of people queuing up to inform everyone else just how thick stupid and useless all Tories are, but especially their leader, as year after year they rule over them?
By the looks of the URL, (liz-truss-3) she’s had 2 before! I’m sure she’ll be thrilled with that, her aims have only ever been about self aggrandisement after all.
TBH I tried to create one yesterday to save anyone soiling themselves with the task 🙂
I took it as sign that it didn’t seem to stick.
Not all Tories are thick. Sunak isn't. But Truss clearly is. Her puppet masters probably are not
Patel Resigns
Got to be some good news out if this. She was pretty hateful
She is spectacularly dim under most types of intelligence.
Doesn’t matter she was smart enough to get the top job at the table.
Have you got real gold paper on your walls paid by someone else 🙂
As Ernie says theses muppets have been running the country year after year pointing out how stupid they are doesn’t seem to stop it from reoccurring.
She is spectacularly dim under most types of intelligence.
Even her name is a structure made from a couple of short planks.
given that a lot of Tories still love him, even after all his shit
Much as I dislike Johnson "even after all his shit" I would still prefer him as PM to Truss.
Time will tell and perhaps I will be proved completely wrong and ordinary working people will benefit more under a Truss's premiership than they did under Johnson's.
In which case I will be extremely happy to have been proven wrong. But in the meantime I feel that some people's apparent enthusiasm to the changes currently occuring in Downing Street are somewhat misplaced. Or at the very least premature.
The enthusiasm is that this could be the slide toward the end of this government.
Im only happy because i belive it means the end of the union of crowns a united ireland and the toties unelectable for a long time.
Im utterly disgusted by them in general a d the next two years will hurt but long term i think it will be good for the component patts of the uk. 2 years of pain for a generation of gain
I quite like her. There's something pleasantly 'girlish' about her for want of a better word. Like the girl in the group in 6th form that you never really fancied but always got on with.
I know that that makes me literally hitler, but I don't know her so seems unfair to join in with the hate.
I'm not sure I buy the "thick Lizzie" description....sure, she's bland and robotic, but people who actually know her say she's bright but utterly dogmatic in her beliefs. Someone who worked with her (can't remember who...might have been a Uni professor) said that once she has an opinion she will not change her mind, regardless of any evidence presented to her.
My only hope is that she survives long enough to fight the next election. She is a liability, has none of the "charisma" Boris had and I hope leads the Tories into oblivion for a good while.
Im only happy because i belive it means the end of the union of crowns a united ireland and the toties unelectable for a long time.
Im utterly disgusted by them in general a d the next two years will hurt but long term i think it will be good for the component patts of the uk. 2 years of pain for a generation of gain
So basically you are happy because you believe that things will get a lot worse.
Well I certainly agree with part of your analysis although I don't have access to your crystal ball so I can't yet agree with the happy days ahead which you apparently envisage.
once she has an opinion she will not change her mind, regardless of any evidence presented to her.
Could be interesting if she asks queenie to stand aside tomorrow
There are some categories on interweb grumble sites that make you think "who are the deviants who get lathered up over this kind of weird stuff, and do they walk amongst normal people"
There’s something pleasantly ‘girlish’ about her for want of a better word. Like the girl in the group in 6th form that you never really fancied but always got on with.
Well, that answers that.
once she has an opinion she will not change her mind, regardless of any evidence presented to her.
She changed her mind on the monarchy. And what political party she should be a member of. And whether brexit was a good idea. And her unique idea of paying lower wages for people living outside London.
The lady is definitely for turning.
For what it's worth I don't think she is stupid in the conventional sense.
However, she is a poor public speaker, seems unable to think on her feet and falls into fairly obvious traps laid by decent political journalists.
She's PM but is not PM material. I suspect many in her own party think the same.
ernielynch
She changed her mind on the monarchy. And what political party she should be a member of. And whether brexit was a good idea. And her unique idea of paying lower wages for people living outside London.
The lady is definitely for turning.
Absolutely, her main driving force seems to be ambition at any moral/ ethical cost.
Her policies will be a sail in the wind.
There are many types of intelligence. She is clearly deficient in many of them. Emptional intelligence is clearly lacking for one and synthesis is also lacking.
She is just a puppet
If you have puppet masters you never look or sound convincing when you're expected to articulate an argument or perspective. In that respect I see Truss and Starmer as equally balanced.
She’s PM but is not PM material
Yeah I very much agree. I suspect that she is highly intelligent but she appears to me as out of her depth as the next Prime Minister.
When I saw her making her speech after the leadership election result I didn't feel that I was watching someone with prime ministerial qualities, she just doesn't radiate authorative confidence.
Of course it's early days and she will undoubtedly grow in confidence as her experience also grows. She hasn't really got that much experience in being in the limelight compared to other big beasts in the Tory Party.
Edit: TBH that might work in her favour if it makes her appear more normal to voters, compared to slicker more cocky politicians.
once she has an opinion she will not change her mind, regardless of any evidence presented to her.
Does she post here?
The lady is definitely for turning.
She's described as the Iron Weathercock on the beeb.
From Mark Thomas at the festival last week:
She has all the charisma of a sandwich spread burp.
Im only happy because i belive it means the end of the union of crowns
Think you mean the Treaty of the Union of 1707, the Union of the Crowns predated that by over 100 years 😉
Well this is only day one, what horrors are yet to come.
I'm mostly looking forward to the incompetence excuses.
Even the Brexit people I know think she's a ****wit.
Let's hope they don't bother to vote next time.
She’s PM but is not PM material
She reminds me of half the contestants from The Apprentice.
You just wonder how they got there and what the heck is actually going on in thier heads. Yet here they are to 'entertain' me..
Except the job of PM isn't about entrainment.
What you need to bear in mind is Truss is the pliant puppet of the ERG, brittania unchained and Atlantic bridge lot.
Very much so. She's the latest useful idiot.
Ernie
Once again there are multiple types of intelligence. You can score highly on one and low on others. She is clearly low scoringn in many areas even if high in others.
Intelligence is not a single measure and is not solely about exam results.
She changed her mind on the monarchy. And what political party she should be a member of. And whether brexit was a good idea. And her unique idea of paying lower wages for people living outside London.
The lady is definitely for turning
Comrade… we finally agree on something. Just like her predecessor, yet even more so, she doesn’t have a single belief or principle beyond her own advancement. Nothing. She is literally an empty vessel. A vacuum.
She will say anything and do anything if she thinks it will advantage her
Unfortunately the people who shout loudest are the ERG and the Brexiteer headbangers who only a few years ago she vehemently disagreed with, but who’s insane opinions she now echoes
They’re the ones who are now calling the shots. She’ll do whatever they tell her to do. She’ll appoint the absolute hardline nutters like John Redwood and IDS to cabinet positions so they don’t even have to tell her, they just go ahead and do it
Be afraid. Be very afraid
Ernie
Once again there are multiple types of intelligence.
So you keep reminding me. Perhaps you should remind yourself instead harping on about how stupid all Tories are and how "spectacularly dim" Truss is.
I have no interest in whether a politician is intelligent or not, only in whether they are right or wrong.