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Why do we hate her?

Be cos

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 10:57 am
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I've gotten mixed up between truth and parody again.

Is Big Tofu a thing? I genuinely don't know.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 1:55 pm
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I went to school with Big Tofu, fine chap works in the city.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 2:41 pm
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Liz Truss

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 4:51 pm
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Christ on a bendybus!

You can literally hear the wind whistling through her vacuous head

As thick as mince

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 5:30 pm
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Astonishing, 'too thick to know your own limitations' exemplified. 'I couldn't in all conscience let that happen', it kin happened, and now she wants back in the fray! Just confirms how hard-bitten, vacuous and amoral these R soles are and how desperate they are to ride on the shirttails of the very rich and to be photographed.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 6:29 pm
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She’s confirmed she won’t run for PM again

the lack of self awareness is staggering..

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:02 pm
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Liz Truss blamed a Left-wing economic establishment and her own Conservative Party for her downfall in a 4,000-word essay for The Telegraph on Saturday.

This created a strong debate among readers, with the majority coming out in support of the former prime minister. They suggested she had been the victim of a coup by her own party, which readers argue has been hijacked by Left-wing politicians.

Thank you to the Telegraph.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:08 pm
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Can anyone keep tabs on the number of delusional ‘betrayal’ narratives presently doing the rounds amongst Tory MPs?

These bloody all-powerful lefties who are apparently running the country have betrayed Brexit and now they’re brought down not only Boris but Liz too.

The bastards!

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:13 pm
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I just love the idea that the present Tory party (just this side of neo-fascist) is a secret left-wing movement.

Who knew?

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:16 pm
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Well they’ve got their way now we’ve a PM straight out of that hotbed of radical socialism, Goldman Sachs

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:19 pm
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I'm not sure why Labour are too concerned with parliament really.

If some left wing Illuminati are now in control of the financial markets and the Tory party itself surely it's job done?

Perhaps Sunakered is right to be blaming Corbyn! Is be the mastermind behind the Tory party now, pulling the strings of power!?

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Posted : 06/02/2023 7:24 pm
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Oh but if we could push this narrative... Next election comes around, why would you vote for a tory party that's been overtaken by the lefties? No point in voting at all, they're both basically the same party...

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:26 pm
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Dear god! This interview is just unhinged. She appears to living in some kind of alternative universe

https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/1622668199731859456?s=46&t=R8mQCnSk_kP-qpswH_wnwg

Apparently it was pure coincidence that the markets went into meltdown just after she and Kamikwasi announced 45 billion in unfunded tax cuts

Has she been smoking crack? The woman is absolutely insane!

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:26 pm
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Is it possible the Tories encouraged Truss to do this? Takes the heat off Sunak for a couple of days.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:28 pm
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How does reminding everyone why Truss was the shortest serving prime minister in history help the Tories?

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:32 pm
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I've had sleepless nights over the years, to be honest, over small mistakes I've made in life that have negatively affected others.

Truss? Makes life harder for countless mortgage payers and those trending, draws criticism from world leaders and internationally recognised financial institutions, then goes on to say, "meh, they are too stupid to see my genius."

How can anytime be that lacking in contrition, it's both scary and incredible.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 7:51 pm
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It was Kwasi Kwarteng who made the mistakes, not Liz Truss:

https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/02/mini-budet-liz-truss-admits-she-should-have-laid-the-ground-better-17487513/

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 8:05 pm
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Surely kamikwaze must be a member of the FSA. Should he not be struck off?

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 8:43 pm
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That is a weird suggestion . I have little doubt that Liz Truss is nowhere as dim as she appears to be. She comes across as particularly dim imo. She is hardly likely to be dimmer than that.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 8:44 pm
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I thought we were not allowed to call people "dim" if they have degrees and so on?  😉

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 8:52 pm
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She’s so dense, light bends around her

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 8:53 pm
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I thought we were not allowed to call people “dim” if they have degrees and so on?  😉

I bet it's an ordinary or a Richard😀

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 9:12 pm
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Maybe a desmond at best? No-one's reporting, which raises the supicions.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 9:38 pm
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I look forward to more staggeringly ill-judged and deluded interventions from wacky liz. It's this lack of self awareness and contrition that will alienate more voters and remind them of the utter shambles of this parliament. Hopefully she'll campaign on her own manifesto come election time where she says the opposite of everything rish! says.

 
Posted : 06/02/2023 9:44 pm
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Where’s Spitting Image when you need it. They’d have struggled with mad Lizzie though, just couldn’t model that level of libertarian obsession.

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 12:05 am
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Trouble is spitting image is just like watching the news.
So far down the rabbit hole,gone have you.

she’s truely unhinged thou….more like she’s in a cult.

I doubt she’s dim thou, managed to weedle herself into a good job and made more than most of us ever will and ended up as fleetingly being the PM.

A very successful female role model even but then you just go ‘how?’ as there appears to be none of the characteristics you’d expect of someone who’s in the position she reached.

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 5:33 am
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I doubt she’s dim thou, managed to weedle herself into a good job and made more than most of us ever will and ended up as fleetingly being the PM.

I think she's an absolute nailed on certainty for what the far left of the Dunning-Kruger graph looks like!

Wildly overconfident in her own knowledge and abilities. Even the lettuce that outlasted her as PM probably has more situational awareness than her!

And anyway, it's only the utter thickos that are left in Government. Boris purged anyone with half a brain and anyone who didn't believe in Brexit so by definition, there's no-one intelligent left. They're clinging desperately to ideology now, it's all the Tories have left. And Truss amply demonstrated what happens when Tory ideology meets reality:

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/06/leftwing-economic-establishment-liz-truss-small-state

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 9:15 am
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And anyway, it’s only the utter thickos that are left in Government. Boris purged anyone with half a brain and anyone who didn’t believe in Brexit so by definition, there’s no-one intelligent left.

And if any more proof were needed of that then just look at the Tory MP's who are quite happy to parrot the Truss line that unfunded tax cuts were the right idea, its just those pinko's in the 'left-wing economic orthodoxy/the lefty media/the lefty civil service/Lefty Tory MPs' who conspired to foil their hero and her genius masterplan. There was one of them on Radio 4 this morning and they actually believe this rubbish

Unhinged doesn't even begin to describe it, but post-brexit and after Boris's purges these headbangers own the Tory party.

Does anyone honestly think that Rishi won't be deposed in May?

He'll be gone once the local election results come in and they'll appoint another ERG loony tune even madder than Lizzie. Either Braverman or Badenoch

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 9:27 am
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I think the current Tory party just exposes the reality that opportunity, contacts and luck are far more important for success* than hard work and intelligence. IMO this has probably always been the case, it seems to be widely believed that "new media" has created the problem (in politics), I suspect it has exposed it more than it has caused it.

*when the measure of success is wealth and power.

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 9:35 am
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Truss got to PM because she understood how to manipulate the system the tories have for selecting a leader and thus said all the right things to get the support of the membership.  She was always going to win if she could get to the ballot of the members.

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 9:40 am
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It's a mistake to conflate having a degree with 'intelligence', or intelligence with political sophistication eg Kwarteng gained a PhD from Cambridge, Truss got into Merton and Mick Lynch left school at 16.

 
Posted : 07/02/2023 9:42 am
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I see Mrs Self-awareness is today going to deliver a speech to some assembled right wing loons in the US. After 13 years of Tory misrule, including her own epic car crash, she's going to blame 'woke culture' for the UK's financial woes.

Righto Liz...

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1646039684781334528?s=20

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:40 am
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She’s never going to be near a position of power ever again, though. She has got a massive majority so unless she steps down she’s not going away.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:44 am
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Liz Truss is set to deliver a speech blaming 'woke culture' for high taxes

The full ITV article points out precisely why Liz Truss is such an authoritative figure on the subject of taxation:

"Britain's shortest-serving prime minister lasted in No. 10 for just six weeks, after a disastrous mini-budget featuring £45 billion of unfunded tax cuts led to economic turmoil."

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-04-11/liz-truss-to-blame-woke-culture-for-high-taxes-in-us-speech

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:50 am
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I'm sure Rishi will be delighted with her usual ME! ME! ME! antics and her tragically needy attempts to shoehorn herself back into the conversation

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:51 am
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yeah calling out all that social injustice like slavery is costing us dear! 🤔

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:52 am
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Well I Spent part of my bank holiday weekend locking in a new mortgage "deal" come August we get to pay the bank an extra £300, and we're the lucky ones...

Hiked interest rates feel like a bit of a Tory tax rather than the fault of "the wokes". personally I'm quite impressed with the Wokes especially as they don't have a party, aren't in power and yet (according to Liz) have managed to increase taxation.

Cheers for the input Madame pork markets now kindly **** off and hide again. It's far too early for your rehabilitation, certainly a speaking tour.
The sheer weight of shame should keep her quiet for another year at least...

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 8:57 am
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The sheer weight of shame should keep her quiet for another year at least…

Somewhat unbelievably, I think that she's even less familiar with the concept of shame than her predecessor.

In her own head (imagine being in there?) she's still a misunderstood genius and one day we will all appreciate her infinite wisdom

I'm sure the labour party are hoping she'll be giving a speech a day from now until May 4th

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 9:04 am
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The symptoms are low growth, rising living costs and declining value of wages. The disease is ever larger government you and your useless party, oh and too many cars.

FTFY.

What do we need to do for her to stop talking such simplistic nonsense?

 
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In her own head (imagine being in there?) she’s still a misunderstood genius and one day we will all appreciate her infinite wisdom

Not just her head. That entire wing of the party still believes the general idea was right its just the execution failed. Probably because of the woke elite.
Wonder how much she is getting paid for that speech?

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 9:56 am
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That entire wing of the party still believes the general idea was right its just the execution failed. Probably because of the woke elite.

I believe Liz and Kwasi laid the blame firmly at the door of 'the financial orthodoxy' of those pesky marxists in 'The Markets' and the Bank of England.

Wokery is to blame for everything else though

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 10:08 am
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These Woke Elite are incredibly powerful given that the Tories have been in power for 13 years, have a large majority and control significant sections of the media.

If everything that is going wrong truly is the fault of the Woke Liberals, they must be unbelievably influential to be doing all this from a position of zero power and control!

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 10:44 am
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That's because the current Tory government is conservative only in name, ask Nigel.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 10:59 am
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Probably a repeat post, sorry if it is… but you have to feel for the contemporary satirist…

https://twitter.com/jamiesont/status/1621999277085003776?s=21

EDIT: Just adding something fresh but pointless…

https://twitter.com/jonnymorris1973/status/1646206384487252014?s=21

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 6:35 pm
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Ok I'm curious, what models of Maserati or Ferarri are considered left wing or right wing!? And Where do Lamborghini fit into this bizare measurement? Clarkson bought a Lamborghini tractor and he's totally not a lefty.

The sheer stupidity and brass neck of it is off the chart, we're gonna need a new measurement of scale.

I guess if you can grift some after dinner speeches in the US then that makes it ok, money is money.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 6:45 pm
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what models of Maserati or Ferarri are considered left wing or right wing!?

I'd say the Quattroporte is left-wing, on account of being able to easily fit 4 comrades in. Good socialist car that. Also, any Ferrari in red.
There's an obvious Lambo from the 1970s-80s, but that would get me in trouble if I spelt it the way I want to.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 6:55 pm
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Interesting.

The Zenvo TSR-S 2019 has an active wing that will tilt left or right or up and down depending on speed/downforce and which direction the car is pointing.

I wonder what Truss makes of that? I'd guess she'd call it a 'an elite woke centrist'.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 7:15 pm
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I suppose Boris Johnson would be a VW Corrado, with the automatic rear wing that pops up at 60mph and tells the police when you're breaking the law. Except that it'd be permanently up.

Rishi Sunak'd be the ebay rear wing on my shitbox MX5, barely held on with a bit of double sided tape and not actually doing anything. And just like with the average Tory party member I have to admit the colour isn't quite right.

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 11:00 pm
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Looks like Mad Lizzie has gone Full Trump. She’s still rattling on about the ‘anti-growth coalition’ that only exists in her head. Looks like she’s adding climate change denial to her long list of hatstand delusions

So she’s now blaming socialists and environmentalists as well as lefty bankers in her list of people who destroyed the economy that definitely weren’t her and Kwasi

She also described crashing the economy as ‘a setback’, but still believes her ideas were right 😳

The woman must be on meth. It’s the only possible explanation

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1646174457667493889?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ

 
Posted : 12/04/2023 11:30 pm
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It's ironic, because a new economic model based on stagnation and redistribution is actually a brilliant idea, and will make the next 100 years go fantastically better than the unsustainable-growth and rewarding-of-wealth idiocy that we actually have. But literally nobody with any power is actually pushing it, let alone <checks notes> The Markets and the capitalist establishment

I wonder how it works... You become prime minister on a million to one shot, your dreams come true, 10 seconds later you've irrepairably ****ed it and everyone knows you're a halfwit. But there's this 1% of even bigger halfwits who will still flatter you and tell you how it's not your fault even while 99% of the world laughs at you or worse still, forgets you. I lack the... eh... skills, to be a Liz Truss but i guess if I was, hanging out with the 1% of absolute drongos would be very tempting indeed.

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 12:05 am
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Lizzies journey has been a right old blast, hasn’t it? For everyone.

From the Lib Dems, via the remain campaign to Brexiteer economic Armageddon deliverer, then full-on, far-right conspiracy theory, climate change denying nutjob?

Quite a trip!

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 1:15 am
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Next stop turquoise shelllsuit

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 6:38 am
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Good god. She has to be one of the least convincing politicians I've ever heard.

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 7:48 am
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Conspiracy of Lefties? Err does that include her parents 😉
Keep going Lizzy hopefully you're batsh1t crazyness will put people off the Conservatives more. The only conspiracy is in their minds, mind you I'd rather not get in that one, it would imply they have one. I worked for companies destroyed by Lizzy, so here theories on economy has hardly any credibility with me. Just another failed CFO...

JeZ

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 8:52 am
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"Socialists in environmental clothing" makes me think NBC suit & mask rather than the (presumably) fair-trade slacks Truss is referring to. Given the outlook, I'm off down the army surplus for ration packs and chlorine tabs. I might want to go to the beach soon as well, so it seems prudent with all the discharge.

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 9:01 am
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She is good entertainment value tho

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 9:03 am
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She is good entertainment value tho

No, she's wrecked far too much to be good entertainment plus she's too cringe to be entertaining.

It's like watching one of the more stupid Apprentice candidates attempting to run a branding campaign; it's way past entertaining, it's just embarrassing.

 
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As much as I would like to think that she is entertaining in her pure delusion and comedy value, I agree with @crazy-legs and think it is much worse than just cringey. Whether we like it or not, she is a former Prime Minister and a current Member of Parliament of a governing party. That means that she represents the UK on the world stage and is currently devaluing the UK as a nation.

Any party that is not party to her delusion will have to work to overcome that in the future and that makes it harder to recover from the carnage she and her friends wrecked on the UK.

 
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As much as I would like to think that she is entertaining in her pure delusion and comedy value, I agree with @crazy-legs and think it is much worse than just cringey.

Indeed. It was funny when we were all laughing incredulously at her ridiculous 'Pork Markets' speech and her getting angry about cheese, but it ceased to be even mildly amusing a long time ago. When she wasn't in a position for her boundless stupidity to do much damage.

But what the hell does it say about us as a country that such an absolute ****-wit ended up as PM? I still find it quite surreal. Like some nightmarish cheese dream. It seemed like everyone in the country, bar the racist pensioners that make up the Tory party membership, could see she wasn't fit to run a bath, let alone the countries economy, yet she was handed the keys to number ten and given free reign to wreak absolute havoc, pretty much unchecked. Like handing a loaded machine gun to a monkey.

When Boris Johnson was elected I saw a foreign journalist refer to it as the UK's 'Berlusconi Moment'. While that is a very good analogy, what the hell does that make Liz Truss's coronation? I don't think theres an equivalent

There must have been collective hysterical laughter in the capitals of the world as her and Kwasi strolled onto the world stage, pulled the pin out of the hand grenade and lobbed it casually at our own economy, then stood there grinning.

And the woman is so thick, arrogant and deluded that she still thinks she was right and its everyone else who was/is wrong

It was Matthew Parris who summed her up best..

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 10:24 am
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she’s wrecked far too much to be good entertainment plus she’s too cringe to be entertaining.

It’s like watching one of the more stupid Apprentice candidates attempting to run a branding campaign; it’s way past entertaining, it’s just embarrassing.

This ^^

Good god. She has to be one of the least convincing politicians I’ve ever heard.

and very much,this^^

Putting that to one side for a moment,I can never get my head around the fact that she can still get work.
Who in their right mind ,would ever think,"I know who we should get as a guest speaker,a total incompetent,that was sacked,is best known for being the shortest serving UK prime minister in history,and struggles to string a coherent collection of words together"
"Yes,let’s get her,she will be perfect” .
It’s like going back to the days of Bedlam and charging people to come and stare at patients.

 
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,”I know who we should get as a guest speaker,a total incompetent,that was sacked,is best known for being the shortest serving UK prime minister in history,and struggles to string a coherent collection of words together”

Because a lot of them believe what she was trying to do was "right".

She has just made a speech in that she thinks that redistribution of wealth is a bad thing. She is not hiding the fact that she thinks helping the poorer people in our society is a bad thing. She thinks that the rich should continue to get richer and the rest of us get the scraps of the table.

Where's the end game? Feudalism?

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 10:41 am
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The worrying thing is that its not just the headbangers in some US Think tank, though.

When she instigated her suicidal budget, against the advice of anyone even vaguely sane, she was cheered to the rafters by a large rump of her own party's MPs (who are still in government) and pretty much all the press, who lorded her as The New Thatcher (as if that could ever be a good thing)

And whats more terrifying is that even after everything thats happened, blinded as they are by their ideology, none of them have changed their minds and they'd let her do the same again tomorrow if she got the chance. Or fully support anyone else proposing the same madness.

 
Posted : 13/04/2023 10:51 am
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Its the trickle down illusion - that if the whole economy is growing then everyone is better off.

complete delusion

 
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The New Thatcher (as if that could ever be a good thing)

Just look at how her Witch Hunter General Chancellor was lorded when he died a couple of weeks ago.

 
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Who in their right mind ,would ever think,”I know who we should get as a guest speaker,a total incompetent,that was sacked,is best known for being the shortest serving UK prime minister in history,and struggles to string a coherent collection of words together”

As MCJnr is involved in getting speakers at uni, you'll not be surprised to learn that some of it is to do with clicks and views. (Cambridge Union on YouTube if you want to see speakers and debates. Sone surprisingly good, others less so!)

Though they only pay expenses, (and it isn't ex-ministers who are the worst for ****ing them over on that cost)

 
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Its the trickle down illusion – that if the whole economy is growing then everyone is better off.

I doubt they believe it though. Its just a better sales tactic than going "we are going to screw you over to make more money ourselves".

 
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Might as well be wearing a Shell logo emblazoned hard hat.

 
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🤣

 
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Well at least one person writing for that bulwark of commonsense conservativism, the Daily Telegraph, agrees with Liz Truss that the UK's economic problems are the result of 13 years of left-wing rule:

"The Left’s belief that state intervention is the answer to every serious economic, social or health problem has prospered under 13 years of Tory rule."

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2023%2F04%2F14%2Fwhy-left-driving-government-after-13-years-tory-rule%2F

 
Posted : 14/04/2023 11:51 pm
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These people - Jesus.

The idea she thinks the private sector can generate money is so totally ridiculous that 30secs of relatively simple analysis destroys any concept of that.

They are totally obsessed the idea that the private sector can operate without the state.

It can't - fact. And the dirty concept that we might rely on the government for economic solutions is anathema to her is also barbaric.

I'd say she's confused. Listened to too many neocons about the economic function of things, rather than actually studied how the system works.

Why hate the state so much? It's one of the most powerful tools we have. The monopoly issuer of the pound. Markets on the other hand are given the power by the state to serve us - which ironically has failed on nearly all metrics unless you're one of a tiny majority.

Years of not pushing back against those people have led us to this ridiculous situation.

That slow drip feed of breaking up BT and British Gas just so your uncle can have £250 of discounted shares led to this thinking.

But then when things fall apart all these same people blindly expect the state to step in and repair everything (ignoring the fact according to them the state doesn't have money of its own.) so it can oil the wheels of the system just enough so it doesn't collapse.

 
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* tiny minority. Edit.

 
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"But then when things fall apart all these same people blindly expect the state to step in and repair everything (ignoring the fact according to them the state doesn’t have money of its own.) so it can oil the wheels of the system just enough so it doesn’t collapse."

Corporate Socialism.

 
Posted : 15/04/2023 11:32 am
rone reacted
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You know what, having heard some of six-week-Lizzy's prattle now it's pretty clear where this is headed.

She knows she's utterly done in UK politics and public life, and she was speaking in the country where Marjorie Taylor Greene is able to hold office, grift and spout pretty much at will.
And so she simply figured she'd have a punt at that game, she's obviously been holed up in a hotel room for a week or so watching Fox and getting all the main bat-shit talking points down, learning to use insults like "socialist" almost as if she meant it, and weaving in her dreamt up concept of the 'anti-growth movement' as a rich tapestry of people who can't afford homes, can't afford energy, filthy environmentalists and those terrible, terrible trans people.

Despite all she has apparently experienced she still has all the natural charisma and communication skills of a damp flannel.
If she has a speech writer and/or a public speaking coach she needs to sack them...

If this is indeed her new career choice I wish her all the worst. The world really doesn't need another failed Neolib' grifter selling incoherent zombie capitalism with fascist overtones. That market is already saturated with slightly less awkward speakers...

 
Posted : 15/04/2023 12:43 pm
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I know she is a dangerous idiot and cost the country a lot but by 'eck she is good comedy value

 
Posted : 15/04/2023 1:15 pm
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