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Surely after today her time has come and she now deserves her own thread. Don't think our soon to be new PM has one yet?
She had no idea how to speak via an interpreter. Lavrov had to tell her to slow down like a helpful old uncle.
https://twitter.com/Imranicus/status/1491729420524175360?s=20&t=Gqb-k4bj2nekjMptIAPJMQ
She insists the UK will never recognise 2 territories mentioned by Lavrov as being sovereign to Russia... thinking they are in Ukraine. They are not, they are in the Russian federation.
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1491771623497777159?s=20&t=Gqb-k4bj2nekjMptIAPJMQ
Left and Billy no mated till she realises its time to go and Lavrov just about bothers to push a door partly open for her.
https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1491765346491109382?s=20&t=Gqb-k4bj2nekjMptIAPJMQ
However, she probably can correctly embed a tweet!😁
Bit late aren't you? For some bizarre reason the other one was closed. 🤷🏻♂️
However, she probably can correctly inbed a tweet!
and correctly spell embed 😉
The whole cabinet were chosen solely on having a fanatical devotion to Brexit - which pretty much means they are all morons. I suspect most have an IQ below 90....
So their behaviour (one moronic thing after another) is pretty much to be expected.
Ah, sorry mods. I thought now that Liz is well and truly on the world stage now and also manoeuvring for the Premiership it would be ok?
She's also extremely funny.
and correctly spell embed 😉
No idea what you mean?😉
Why you little tinker...
https://twitter.com/Kevin_Maguire/status/1491684638317817856?s=20&t=BIhRP_J22Q_agXYFKwaFKA
Let's revisit her finest moment, shall we?
Lavrov vs Truss is the diplomatic equivalent of a boxing match between Mike Tyson in his prime vs my 81 year old mother.
The whole cabinet were chosen solely on having a fanatical devotion to Brexit
Truss was a remainer.
Just been taken to big school and dropped off at the gate.
But she knows the dress code as she’s seen every 80’s film set in Russia.
However, she probably can correctly inbreed a ****!
Seems harsh... but, probably fair.
It would seem to be a prerequisite of being Foreign Secretary in the current administration is the complete lack of geographic knowledge. Self-styled hardman Dominic Raab famously didn't understand the importance of the Dover-Calais link as one of the UK's main trade routes with Europe, and Truss, who is completely out of her depth in a children's paddling pool, recently mixed up the Baltics and Balkans as well as being blindsided by Lavrov in the talks around Ukraine today.
Truss was a remainer.
Probably by accident.
It would seem to be a prerequisite of being Foreign Secretary in the current administration is the complete lack of geographic knowledge.
Can we generalise this?
It would seem to be a prerequisite for any cabinet position in the current administration to have a complete lack of any specialist subject knowledge.
Wow, we really are the laughing stock of the world aren't we.
I think she runs the official Jamiroquai fan club in her down time, hence the homage in Russia.
Truss was a remainer.
I don't think she understood the question
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Wow, we really are the laughing stock of the world aren’t we.
Yeah, joking aside for a moment I was saying to my oh last night that I can't wait for UK politics to return to the mostly boring old humdrum of old. Don't see that happening anytime soon though.
She watched Austin Powers instead of reading the brief, didn't she?
"Brief? There was a brief? Why wasn't I told?"
It's easy to criticise...
I'm guessing her appalling and very public performance, which is all over the Russian media, plays right into Putin's lap too?
"Perfect example of the West; In decline and don't understand or respect us, here is the proof."
The whole cabinet were chosen solely on having a fanatical devotion to Brexit – which pretty much means they are all morons. I suspect most have an IQ below 90….
So their behaviour (one moronic thing after another) is pretty much to be expected.
Makes me wonder why people with an IQ >90 like yourself can't be bothered to step up to be elected and run the country. After all these IQ<90 people are ones creating the laws and taxes that shape your life
In the race to the bottom of potential tory candidates to pop on the top step, LT is the quintessential proof that the conservative party simply never knows when its beaten! When it looks like they have distilled the very essence of incompetence in one (flabby) package of never to be bettered dross, they come thundering back in with an offering so perfectly awful you kind of have to admire them.
Brexit Brexit Brexit there I said 3 times.
It’s easy to criticise…
Indeed, she makes it so easy to criticise I almost believe it might be deliberate.
Truss was a remainer.
I don’t think she understood the question
For someone who didn't understand the question she made a very strong, and passion driven, case for remaining in the EU :
“I don’t want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe; or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade,”
Every parent wants their children to grow up in a healthy environment with clean water, fresh air and thriving natural wonders. Being part of the EU helps protect these precious resources and spaces.”
Won't someone think of the children?
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Lavrov vs Truss. Like a cat playing with a mouse potato
She's since claimed that she campaigned for remain only out of loyalty to Cameron, but really was Leaver the whole time (whether she's telling the truth or not...)
https://twitter.com/FT/status/1491646258984927234?t=wCcYnPQmVCFQcDnxvUnWOg&s=19
Either way Lavrov played her perfectly today
Given Russia just the kind of pretext they wanted, but at least she got some instabangers to help with her leadership campaign 🙄
She got the Black Sea & Baltic Sea mixed up before & he mocked her for that - regional geography obviously not her strong point
She also missed her own deadline for sanctions before recess
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/10/foreign-office-misses-its-own-russian-sanctions-deadline
Wow, we really are the laughing stock of the world aren’t we.
Yes, it's doubly embarrassing when they travel abroad, it's like airing your dirty linen in public.
Her trade deals were shameful, completely one sided (and not to our benefit), rushed and signed in desparation to show how amazing Brexit is.....
she campaigned for remain only out of loyalty to Cameron,
That makes more sense. Why would she be concerned about her two daughters future?
That makes more sense.
This is Liz Truss we're talking about. Sense is the last word I'd associate with her.
Unless "Sense" is the brand name of some expensive product she can order on expenses.
She famously snookered herself on brexit
https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1157710250969063424?t=Uled0CBlknbo68aysBDfBw&s=19
^^ Yeah, I've always found that Brexit question she attempted to answer very telling.
She isn't good at thinking on her feet or doing preparation. That was always going to be a stick used to beat here with yet she seemingly never had a stock reply at the ready. An experienced/capable politician would have had an answer ready on tap. Well the politicians of old would have.
Liz! Truss!
I think you mean
Liz!……………………………….Truss!
It's extremely doubtful that she's going to be the next leader, she might think she is but the portfolio grabbing shows as she can't cover the main brief effectively. This embarrassment will haunt her as it shows her failing on the world stage, it's not a good look and there are plenty of better candidates
I imagine the FO diplomats are either getting shouted at for not preparing her enough or more likely holding their heads in their hands
It would seem to be a prerequisite for any cabinet position in the current administration to have a complete lack of any specialist subject knowledge.
That seems to have been a requirement for all ministers for many, many years.
Is there anyone near government that isn’t a complete ****ing embarrassment?
I love the way she pauses, looks down to check her script, and still cannot say "Minsk" like a normal human person.
I almost want Putin to invade tonight and blame Truss.
^^Lol, very good.
Truss may well become the next leader - remember its the membership that makes the final call and she knows how to tickle their tummies
She certainly knows how to tickle their pork bellies
I find watching these clowns in our government is very much akin to the cringe-fest that is the Apprentice…. Only this is for real and involves our futures
I find watching these clowns in our government is very much akin to the cringe-fest that is the Apprentice…. Only this is for real and involves our futures
Yep. It's embarrassing and worrying.
Makes me wonder why people with an IQ >90 like yourself can’t be bothered to step up to be elected and run the country. After all these IQ<90 people are ones creating the laws and taxes that shape your life
Because we’re too smart to want to deal with all the crap it brings with it.
The way Lavrov set her up with those 2 non-Ukranian regions was reminiscent of the "do you want woofers and tweeters" sketch from Not the Nine o'Clock News sketch.
Absolutely priceless.
She was a retainer
Boris, these are my principles and if you don't like them, I have others.
Twitter called it: https://twitter.com/miffythegamer/status/1491831360549437452?s=20&t=_YgKP6Y7l_5U5coZc7uydQ
It would seem to be a prerequisite for any cabinet position in the current administration to have a complete lack of any specialist subject knowledge.
To be fair, and this is real, having met many MPs over the years, select committee members normally know their subject backwards, they’re interested in it and knowledgeable about it, but front benchers are reshuffled on a regular basis and rarely have the time in the job to build a deep understanding. Personal opinion.
I think that is a failing of the system we have and the lack of professional career politicians - but we don’t want career politicians apparently, people who spend years learning how to run a particular governmental portfolio.
Hey ho.
People have short memories. In 2008 at the height of the Georgia crisis, the Russians / General Lavrov were similarly denigrating to David Milliband - telling “who the F are you to lecture us”
The only consistent thing is Russia’s attitude to Britain - irrespective of the political party in government.
Edit - managed to find something that references this:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2008/09/17/russian-minister-who-are-you-to-f-lecture-me/
Talking over your own translator is not a good look, unless you're Nikita Khrushchev.
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People have short memories. In 2008 at the height of the Georgia crisis, the Russians / General Lavrov were similarly denigrating to David Milliband – telling “who the F are you to lecture us”
That's she whole point. His very particular style is well known. It shouldn't have been a surprise. He's not a man you meet with, lacking some fundamental understanding of the situation and geography and simply gift him propaganda victories. He had to coach her to slow down for the interpreter for goodness sakes. He made her, and by implication the UK, look amateurish and totally outgunned on a world stage.
She didn't prepare, she was easily handled and made to look inept. Simple as that.
It was nothing short of embarrassing however you want to paint it.
That pic with the fur hat looks a lot like the ones the BBC used to mock up with Corbyn.
Makes me wonder why people with an IQ >90 like yourself can’t be bothered to step up to be elected and run the country. After all these IQ<90 people are ones creating the laws and taxes that shape your life
That would be a fair challenge if candidates were selected on grounds of capability - not on connections and blind adherence to this prevailing ideology…
No ones saying Lavrov isn't a shit of a person the point is that Truss ' cluelessness was exactly what he wanted
Truss regularly gets skewered by breakfast TV hosts!
Truss regularly gets skewered by breakfast TV hosts!
We don't need comment on her love life, thank you.
Serious issues in Russia, serious Statesperson sent to resolve, so she does a self promotion leadership bid video that looks like it was done by a primary school project team.
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1491869055959109634?s=20&t=Hp0aduHkpldExFer3p-F7w
This is what you get when you replace professional politicians with an amateur team that's full of crack.
Because we’re too smart to want to deal with all the crap it brings with it.
And then moan about the decisions made by people you think are in the bottom 25% of IQ distribution and all the crap it brings with it......
That would be a fair challenge if candidates were selected on grounds of capability – not on connections and blind adherence to this prevailing ideology…
If you set up your IQ>90 party with the other 75% or so of the population you could end up in power
So she does a self promotion leadership bid video that looks like it was done by a primary school project team.
We've got one self-absorbed narcissist looking to replace another, in competition with another.
Perish the thought that they put as much effort into their jobs as they do into their own self-promotion?
Its like some kind of medieval court
so she does a self promotion leadership bid video that looks like it was done by a primary school project team
jesus f ing christ, is that on her actual own feed?
That video on twitter.....?! Is that serious?! WTactualF? My six-year, old knows when, to put, pauses, in sentences better, than Liz, Truss. Was she taught to read by Speak N Spell?
I really dread to think how we are looked at on the world stage now. Any credibility we had left after the Brexit-shambles (assuming we had any left) must surely be rushing down the toilet.
Couldn't even memorize a 2 min speach I hope she Nevers takes on any Shakespeare.
Couldn’t even memorize a 2 min speach I hope she Nevers takes on any Shakespeare.
No, she leaves that to Johnson...
And this one might be better off in the BJ thread but here we go:
This is what you get when you replace professional politicians with an amateur team that’s full of crack.
More a blind disregard for the Civil Servants who are paid to be in the know and advise the Minister. One doesn't need to know everything just where to go for detailed knowledge and the humility to make the move.
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Free MemberCouldn’t even memorize a 2 min speach I hope she Nevers takes on any Shakespeare.
I love that the video zooms right in on her face to make it extra obvious that she can't make it 3 words without reading the notes
The politicians maybe stupid/useless but not as stupid/useless as the people voting for them.
In 2019 69% of a 65% turnout voted for Truss so that constituency must want her to be their MP as 44% of all people in the constituency voted for her against 11% for second place Labour MP.
Bloody hell, Sergei Lavrov has been foreign minister in Russia for nearly 20 years!
And it would appear he's been a tosser the whole time
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton found that Lavrov treated her poorly during negotiations, like a "jerk."[12] A high-ranking official in the foreign policy apparatus of former US President George W. Bush described Lavrov as a "complete asshole."[13]
A Politico profile from 2017 featured assessments from senior Obama administration diplomats of Lavrov as an "anti-diplomat", with one describing him as "uncharismatic, offensive, uncompromising, cruel, unlikeable, brusque, caddish ... nothing redeemable about him
Bloody hell, Sergei Lavrov has been foreign minister in Russia for nearly 20 years!And it would appear he’s been a tosser the whole time
Well yeah but that's Putin's entire method of operating. Basically a dictatorship - job for life.
He might be a tosser but the fact he's been there for 20 years should mean that his methods of operating are well-known and Ministers (from any country) might be appropriately briefed on this subject.
Look, you're going to meet this rude arrogant arse, he'll try and trip you up, try and catch you out and he'll be thoroughly unpleasant with it, be prepared.
Truss didn't even look like she knew where she was, never mind who she was meeting.
Ann Widdecombe and Whatsherface Rees-Mogg (Jaocb's sister) looked very similar in their short-lived stints as MEPs when they were in EU Parliament. Barely knew who they were speaking to, just did some flag-waving patriotic bullshit.
This week I have been in Moscow to urge the Kremlin to abide by international agreements
Did she mean that without any sense of irony?
I genuinely can't believe that video is real.
Why have they even released what seems like a threat video? That soundtrack?! It's like watching some weird mash up of a travel program. While in Moscow, Liz thought she'd try her hand at some international diplomacy.
The disparity between her own idea of how she appears to the world and the reality is truly terrifying