[Closed] Liverpool - Still a Boss place!!!

scousers pissed right up and dancin'..?

what's the story here..?

It's been a while since I went through Central station, do they still have girls there who pretend to chat you up while their boyfriend nicks your wallet?

Looks like people visiting Liverpool to me for some sort of horse event.

Scousers worse than the Welsh, intolerable. Thats better.

Sorry Tim, found a bit painful myself.

Samuri I suspect you have made that up.

Pigface you do know that your statement doesn't make any sense don't you?

wow? really?

as per second post....

Unfortunately not. I went to Poly in Liverpool and worked there for three years. The girls were more likely to hang around Lime Street but their typical MO would be to approach a likely looking lad as he left the station, first ask for a light or directions and then pretend she fancied him.
If she started getting a positive response she'd signal her boyfriend/pimp/brother who would then start following the couple. Once outside the victim would either be subjected to a simple mugging or pickpocketing while the chap was distracted. A number of our lads got done in this way until word got around. At one stage you could almost guarantee it would happen every time you got off a train.

edit: Be approached by a girl that is, not get mugged. In retrospect, I assume a number of the girls were just working instead.

I could calmly shoot anyone in the face that is involved in a flash mob. The unbridled joy and enthusiasm makes me boil with rage like nothing else.

Ha - not my thing, but looks like harmless spontaneous fun and that can't be bad, right?

It's not spontaneuos though. I hate organised wackiness.

oh and I like Liverpool, never had a problem there.

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haha knew this would attract the haters

Just to clarify, the video title says flash mob, but the descriptions actually confirms its spontaneous which is what makes it kinda cool, just pointing out we are a friendly bunch 😀

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If she started getting a positive response she'd signal her boyfriend/pimp/brother who would then start following the couple.

Sounds more like the "wire" to me. interesting anecdote though.

I grew up in Liverpool and also went to University there, traveling into Liverpool everyday from Fazakerley, either on a bike or train. Never heard of this practice.

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That picture is hilarious, never seen it before.

surfer - Member
Sorry Tim, found a bit painful myself.

Painful? boozed up locals joining in with a street performer? come on...

Binners and CFH, I can't believe I have to do this, but:

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Discussion over.

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Painful? boozed up locals joining in with a street performer? come on...

Your right, its my loss. I bet the busker earned a few bob!

I've got loads more like that if you want.
From the porn films being shot in the Adelphi, through the pubs with proper drug 'shops' in the back to the city centre clubs using organised crime, hells angels for bouncers who weren't adverse to stabbing people up the arse to teach them a lesson.

I tell you, for a country lad, Liverpool was a massive eye opener.

Camo, if it's so ace, why did they leave as soon as they could? 😉

Camo, if it's so ace, why did they leave as soon as they could?

Uh, I think it was to spread the good word CFH. 😉 That's proper public service, that is.

Macca and Ringo, apparently, still really miss the place. But they accept that their role as Liverpool ambassadors mean they have to be elsewhere, in luxury mansions with cool cars and random hotties. It's not much of a life to be honest.

😆

Macca and Ringo

My wife saw Paul McCartney in Heswall Tesco a couple of months back 🙂

My wife saw Paul McCartney in Heswall Tesco a couple of months back

Yeah, he's got a place there, facing the Dee, or so I'm told.

Even then, he's forced to have windows that look out the wrong way, at Wales rather than back at his beautiful spiritual home. Oh the humanity. 😥

EDIT: I've lived in Liverpool for 12 years and I've still only heard the word 'BOSS' once or twice... but then I've rarely seen spontaneous dad dancing either. Maybe I live in the wrong neighbourhood.

samuri - Member
I've got loads more like that if you want.
From the porn films being shot in the Adelphi, through the pubs with proper drug 'shops' in the back to the city centre clubs using organised crime, hells angels for bouncers who weren't adverse to stabbing people up the arse to teach them a lesson.

I tell you, for a country lad, Liverpool was a massive eye opener.

When was this then? Im guessing quite a long time ago

you know similar kinds of things happen in all major cities don't you?

EDIT: I've lived in Liverpool for 12 years and I've still only heard the word 'BOSS' once or twice... but then I've rarely seen spontaneous dad dancing either. Maybe I live in the wrong neighbourhood.

Really? strange, part of liverpool you in?

@ timc - Aigburth.

I'm married to a Liverpool lass, who doesn't say 'boss' or 'la'. Neither does anyone else in her family or, come to think about it, any of my workmates.

Not that those who occupy my immediate surroundings speak for the city as a whole, you understand... 😉

Yep, I've got some good stories about Manchester as well.

During the late 80's, early 90's Liverpool was incredibly run down, really a very nasty place indeed. An largely corrupt council teamed with runway unemployment and absolutely no government buy in to regenerate created an appalling culture within the city. At the time Scousers didn't help by being incredibly insular and suspicious of anyone who didn't talk like them and having huge amounts of contempt for anyone further out than Widnes.

Well its the complete opposite on all fronts now 8)

I agree, it's a much nicer place now.

Well its the complete opposite on all fronts now

Yeah, now we love the world, but ironically hate Widnes. 🙂

The very fact you have post a topic like this just reinforces how much of a turdhole Liverpool is.

I grew up in Liverpool and also went to University there, traveling into Liverpool everyday from Fazakerley,

Fazakerley is the best word to be said in a really broad scouse accent. FACT! 😀

Uh-huh. Well, that's certainly an opinion. 😯

You have EVERYTHING about it? You hate the historic waterfront, the parks, the Liverpool One shopping centre? EVERYTHING, huh?

I'm not over keen on Sheffield, but I'm sure I'd fine SOMETHING to like. 🙄

Always have, always will.

And the last time you were here was...?

Why is Liverpool airport named after John Lennon.....
...it's the first place he went when he got some money.

IGMC 😉

I work 1 day a week with the youth of Runcorn, I hear the words 'boss' and 'lad' a huge amount.

You have EVERYTHING about it? You hate the historic waterfront, the parks, the Liverpool One shopping centre? EVERYTHING, huh?

Sure do. I will never set foot in Liverpool again as long as I live. It's called illogical pathological hatred.

And the last time you were here was...?

15th April 2012. Got dragged to the Hillsborough Memorial Service by my ex who for reasons best known to herself was a die-hard Red Shite fan despite having no connections to Liverpool whatsoever. I only agreed to go because I am a football fan and Hillsborough was a football tragedy, not just a Liverpool tragedy.

It was pure torture. I've never witnessed such a maudlin, hand-wringy, self-absorbed, schmalzy, insincere display of cod grief in all my life. I wanted to vomit. It made a mockery of the whole thing.

Needless to say this is why she is now my ex and buried under the patio.

What does 'boss' mean?

I'm not particularly keen on Liverpool either, I thought it was a dump; I was last there in the late 80s, early 90s - maybe I should venture back for a nosey?

What does 'boss' mean?

In Glasgow, it's what heroin addicts call you when they're trying to get you to give them money.

johnellison - Member

Compared to North Korea/Damascus/Blackburn, yes.

What secret part of Burnley do you live in mate?

freddyg - Member

What does 'boss' mean?

I'm not particularly keen on Liverpool either, I thought it was a dump; I was last there in the late 80s, early 90s - maybe I should venture back for a nosey?

Its changed Dramatically in the last 30 years, come check it out!

I've had nothing but fun, working and playing in 'the Pool', when i've had the chance in the last ten years. Good vibes.

It's called illogical pathological hatred.

Gotcha. We've all got those. I know I'll never spend time in Par (close to St. Austell) again, for a pretty similar reason. 😉

I have it on very good authority that when Macca was asked to play at Liverpool for the capital of culture do the conversation between the leader of the Council and Macca when like this:

Council: Paul, we really need you to headline the event.

Paul: Of course I will do it, I will do anything you want but my appearance fee will be £1.8m.

Council: Paul, this concert is not intended to raise any money other than to cover the cost of putting it on, it’s all about showcasing the City, we have not offered to pay the other artists.

Paul: my appearance fee will be £1.8m.

That was the end of the negotiation and Macca headlined the event.

I've got loads more like that if you want.
From the porn films being shot in the Adelphi, through the pubs with proper drug 'shops' in the back to the city centre clubs using organised crime, hells angels for bouncers who weren't adverse to stabbing people up the arse to teach them a lesson.

Lived over the water for 20 plus years, and never heard of anything similar, and its not even mentioned in Spike Island a book about liverpool police written in the 70,s.

I'm not sure why you would hear of anything at all. Are you normally in touch with the comings and goings of Liverpool's minor underworld actors?

This is just the little stuff that I came in direct contact with anyway. People were shooting each other on a daily basis during this period.
Or were you not aware of that either?

No doubt these things did happen, probably not as common & open as made out though, think of some mad sh1t, you will find it somewhere in Liverpool, but for 99% of people 99% of the time, life is normal, just like everywhere else!

Crikey I thought Scousers were meant to have a sense of humour a few on this thread seem very precious about their home city 😆

I think on a whole, we do, let me know when you have something funny to say & we can have some banter 8)

You first I insist 😆

Ha ha! I love all the wonderful opinions on Liverpool ^^^^^ Here's mine - as Mrs camo16 and a scouser - we knew Nelson Mandela wasn't a terrorist. We knew the Hillsborough tragedy was the fault of the police. We brought a newspaper to its knees. We brought Maggie down to her knees and look where she's ended up. 😉 Hate us or love us, what you see is what you get! It's all from the heart and most of you wouldn't be where you are now without people like us!

I used to think Liverpool was pretty grim when we went to football matches there in the late 80s/early 90s. Been back recently and it's pretty nice - interesting bars, shops, clubs, restaurants etc

Its pretty lively at times Samuri but the train station pickpocket only worked on the ugly blokes!!
Its all dead boss la in Shakeabush. (only locals will get this probably)

My other half is a scouser and I don't mind the place, it can be rough but then so can anywhere. One thing though, the women can be stunning.

Its all dead boss la in Shakeabush

Easy - Wavertree!

We're in oval shaped dock. It's boss here too, lah.

* waves *

Mrs camo16

Aigburth.........

Ha good one, took me a while to work that one out.

😆

Where do you local boys usually ride then?

...top song though!

I agree, it's a much nicer place now.
Compared to North Korea/Damascus/Blackburn, yes.
I absolutely detest the place and everything about it. Always have, always will.

I've reported this post, some of us lost family in the bombing in Liverpool, the city suffered terribly and I don't see the need for this sort of pointless vitriol.

Hope the mods agree.

The poor guy thinks Liverpool's a dump & Burnley isn't, think he is already suffering from delusion the poor sod 😆

Where do you local boys usually ride then?

That was one of my issues with Liverpool. There is one BW marked on the entire 1:50K OS map.

There is the TPT (covered in glass). The only bit of pleasant riding I recall was along the promenade up to Otterspool.

Ha ha! I love all the wonderful opinions on Liverpool ^^^^^ Here's mine - as Mrs camo16 and a scouser - we knew Nelson Mandela wasn't a terrorist. We knew the Hillsborough tragedy was the fault of the police. We brought a newspaper to its knees. We brought Maggie down to her knees and look where she's ended up. Hate us or love us, what you see is what you get! It's all from the heart and most of you wouldn't be where you are now without people like us!

Having lived in Liverpool, TBH I actally loved it at the time (83) and the individual sense of living life to the full was refreshing. However, here is the rub, as proved by the the post above:-

Liverpool has always been bouyed by its own ego driven myths and legends, about being a put upon City, that the South hates. Ultimately, Liverpool was ruined by its groupthink about it's own self importance. When i lived there it;'s head was right up it's own arse. Not helped by the council being controlled by Derek Hatton.

Livepool did not bring Maggie to her knees. In no shape or form - one of the biggest issues working there were the workshy, scamming 9and racist, may a nod to the past) workforce , and as soon as it went not in their favour .... stike. The scousers were confrontational, aggressive thieves, with chips on both shoulders. Unfortnately, it always came across that they didn't like hard work. Thatcher's policies - love them or hate them actually has forced Liverpool to change.
In the eighties, because of scousitude, factories close left , right and centre, to be relocated elsewhere , where teh worksforce were a little more forward thinking. Liverpool's unemployment rockered, smack addiction (Ford and Woodhouse Estates rockets.
Robbing was a way of life - seen as being "Robin Hoods". If it wasn't screwed down it got nicked. If it was screwed down, it got nicked the following night. If it was replaced it got nicked later.

Thatcher's union and labour refroms challenged a lot of the scouse spanish practises - and fortunaerly the city has changed, for the better. So Maggie won that round. 30 years later, she's dead. HArdly down to anything Liverpool could muster.

Liverpool never bought the Sun to it's knees, Kelvin McKenzie was a big mouthed tit re Hillsborough. Many years on, scousers still don't buy the Sun. And it is still the biggest selling paper.

Re Hillsborough - a real tragedy. But scouse learning is once again a tad remedial. Hillsborough was cuased by overcrowding, when late arriving fans were continously herded into Lepping's Lane. Some has tickets, some didn't. But 96 died.
There has been a very long campaign to prove that there was no fault of the Liverpool fans. So how come, when LFC got to the European Cup final, mant fans used the LFC tried and tested method of "rushing" the turnstiles, as they ahd no tickets. Legitimate ticket holders didn't get in, and those who did, without paying, saw it as a great triumph. It was Hillsborough II waiting to happen. Isn't there a case for a little bit of responsibility here from the fans to make sure Hillborough cannot happen.

And then there is the selective memory re Heysel. The fans were killed when a shoddily brick wall collapsed - but it collapsed because the were being rushed attached by LFC fans .... In the aftermath, Liverpool FC and the City did what it coudl to protect it's own, suggesting a witch hunt, and following a policy of omatra. Of thos ewho were prosecuted, few served any significant time. It also took years for LFC to acknowledge it's role in the tragedy. And it still grates with Juve fans - hence teh rufusal to accept some of the platitudes that came later.

Liverpool has a potential to be a great place - but the population needs to stop having a blame culture, a huge chip on it's shoudler and take some affermative action. It needs to stop acting like an angry, spoilt teenager. Producing the Beatles 50 or so years ago , does not make the greatest city in the world.

And also, rememeber where teh wealth came from ...

However, it is miles better than Stoke on Trent

I was there last week for a couple of days, seemed OK 🙂

Liverpool is a fab place to visit.

Also, that Beatles picture has reminded me that George Harrison was a [i]very[/i] good looking guy...

Rachel

mrmoofo - Member

Having lived in Liverpool, TBH I actally loved it at the time (83) and the individual sense of living life to the full was refreshing. However, here is the rub, as proved by the the post above:-

Liverpool has always been bouyed by its own ego driven myths and legends, about being a put upon City, that the South hates. Ultimately, Liverpool was ruined by its groupthink about it's own self importance. When i lived there it;'s head was right up it's own arse. Not helped by the council being controlled by Derek Hatton.

Livepool did not bring Maggie to her knees. In no shape or form - one of the biggest issues working there were the workshy, scamming 9and racist, may a nod to the past) workforce , and as soon as it went not in their favour .... stike. The scousers were confrontational, aggressive thieves, with chips on both shoulders. Unfortnately, it always came across that they didn't like hard work. Thatcher's policies - love them or hate them actually has forced Liverpool to change.
In the eighties, because of scousitude, factories close left , right and centre, to be relocated elsewhere , where teh worksforce were a little more forward thinking. Liverpool's unemployment rockered, smack addiction (Ford and Woodhouse Estates rockets.
Robbing was a way of life - seen as being "Robin Hoods". If it wasn't screwed down it got nicked. If it was screwed down, it got nicked the following night. If it was replaced it got nicked later.

Thatcher's union and labour refroms challenged a lot of the scouse spanish practises - and fortunaerly the city has changed, for the better. So Maggie won that round. 30 years later, she's dead. HArdly down to anything Liverpool could muster.

Liverpool never bought the Sun to it's knees, Kelvin McKenzie was a big mouthed tit re Hillsborough. Many years on, scousers still don't buy the Sun. And it is still the biggest selling paper.

Re Hillsborough - a real tragedy. But scouse learning is once again a tad remedial. Hillsborough was cuased by overcrowding, when late arriving fans were continously herded into Lepping's Lane. Some has tickets, some didn't. But 96 died.
There has been a very long campaign to prove that there was no fault of the Liverpool fans. So how come, when LFC got to the European Cup final, mant fans used the LFC tried and tested method of "rushing" the turnstiles, as they ahd no tickets. Legitimate ticket holders didn't get in, and those who did, without paying, saw it as a great triumph. It was Hillsborough II waiting to happen. Isn't there a case for a little bit of responsibility here from the fans to make sure Hillborough cannot happen.

And then there is the selective memory re Heysel. The fans were killed when a shoddily brick wall collapsed - but it collapsed because the were being rushed attached by LFC fans .... In the aftermath, Liverpool FC and the City did what it coudl to protect it's own, suggesting a witch hunt, and following a policy of omatra. Of thos ewho were prosecuted, few served any significant time. It also took years for LFC to acknowledge it's role in the tragedy. And it still grates with Juve fans - hence teh rufusal to accept some of the platitudes that came later.

Liverpool has a potential to be a great place - but the population needs to stop having a blame culture, a huge chip on it's shoudler and take some affermative action. It needs to stop acting like an angry, spoilt teenager. Producing the Beatles 50 or so years ago , does not make the greatest city in the world.

And also, rememeber where teh wealth came from ...

However, it is miles better than Stoke on Trent

Imagine flicking a coin & getting the same side every time 😆

Never mind stoke, if anyone has travelled the UK extensively in the last decade as I have you are spoilt for choice on worse place's, Place's experienceing what Liverpool has in years gone by!

As a Scouser it never ceases to suprise me how the mere mention of the city polarises opinion to such an extent.
Love it or hate it people do have opinions and for many reasons (good and bad) it is firmly on the map.
I prefer coming from a place like that!

I remember the days when they used to have a decent football team. And to be fair Everton are still doing quite well 😉

Binners ,how dare you speak the truth about LFC , I am sure we will have our little run again !!!
. some harsh comments on here but I must say I agree with a lot of them in some respects it is great but in terms of the people ,there is still a chip on shoulder culture which pisses me off no end .
Bootle here

not far from me Voodoo, currently In Crosby

I hear you but I tend to focus on the positive & good when it comes to Liverpool, far to many happy to focus on the other side sometimes unfairly in my eyes 🙂

binners - Member
I remember the days when they used to have a decent football team. And to be fair Everton are still doing quite well

Lolz at no Trophy since 95 🙂

In reply to timc for riding I,m back to my routes on the Wirral or North Wales. Local rides it's single speeding through the parks and down the seafront really or to Asda! Do you happen to be fond of fat bikes? If you are I know you lah.
Best local ride is Church Street and Liverpool One area on Christmas Day morning!

@ timc - weekdays I do the promenade commute or the dock road on my roadie and - like Marin - local parks with the family. Otherwise, it's mostly Delamere or North Wales...

Quite a few STW-ers in the 'pool, it seems. I thought most of the forum were from Manchester! 😉

Marin - I agree totally. Liverpool One is a fantastic Christmas ride, as is the Three Graces-Albert Dock loop, top gear in high summer... short, but sweet!

It does often seem as though STW is mostly Manchester area, but I'm surprised how many of us live on or near the Wirral!

I'm not from round these parts (mostly Bristol) but I've lived here for 18 years and can't see me leaving anytime soon.

BTW I work in sunny Toxteth & as an outsider I can understand some of the chip on both shoulders comments, but as a place Liverpool is very often stunning with so much going on & some inspiring people. Just occasionally they need to look to the future not the past.

No disrespect but never found a reason to go

A scouser here, but its home and love the place. Has its faults but most places do!

Bloody hell, loads of us, have to have a summer's ride!

most cities were in a bad state in the 80s, manchester was not without problems either.... both are revitalising themselves and although you could find some dodgy areas, these are in the minority and you could find dodginess in most places - I really don't get this polarised view, IME the shoulderchip isn't a scouse hallmark

Tim c, lack of decent off road not good ,but u are only a short car journey away....what do you ride