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 scud
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Further to a previous post, my 2003 1.6tdci Ford Focus C-Max lost power and started kicking out a lot of black crud from exhaust.

Garage ran a quick scan on it last night for fault codes and it comes up with faulty EGR valve which apparently is quite common on these.

They cannot get round to repairing for a few days, anyone know what they likely cost will be? I have heard of people blanking EGR off, would this show on new MOT?

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Posted : 14/05/2019 12:22 pm
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I have heard of people blanking EGR off, would this show on new MOT?

Blanked mine off on the old van and it passed several MOTs like that (five or six)
When I say passed, I mean passed the emissions test, would usually fail on some rust somewhere.
Not a difficult DIY job if the access is good, either to replace or to blank.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:09 pm
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A couple of years ago my Peugeot 307 was diagnosed with a faulty EGR valve and I was quoted between £6-800 to have it repaired. Seemingly Peugeot started with the EGR valve and built the rest of the engine around it. There was also some other considerations impacting on the cost such as the glow plugs may also need replacing due to excess build up of nastiness from the faulty valve and a sensor. Ultimately I got a different car as I couldn't justify the expense on a 12 year old motor that cost me less then half that 18 months before.

At the time there was mention of the EGR being blanked as a cheeky work around although this was with the caveat that an MOT inspector would take a somewhat dim view of this and it would be an instant fail.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:12 pm
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Trouble is my car is probably worth £700-800, so paying that to repair isn't worth it really.

Shame as before this it has been really reliable and for an old car, all the electric gizmo's work well and it's been perfect for slinging bike and garden waste in


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:27 pm
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I was charged £40 to have the EGR cleaned on my car - seems to do the trick!


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:28 pm
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I'm trying to recall the details, but I think one of my old cars had issues with EGR valves getting gacked up with carbon. It was a semi-regular job to remove it and clean it all off with carb cleaner.

That might be a cheaper option.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:31 pm
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£2600 for a BMW 335d.

Several things had melted as the egr cooler had failed.

It was eventually covered by BMW as they recalled the car for the same fault.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 1:35 pm
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Hmm, your actual valve is different from the mondeo equivalent... Looks like it might incoproprate the cooler?

Anyway, I'd check out blanking- my 2.2 tdci (mondeo) passed 4 MOTs with the blanking plate in and a completely dead EGR, and it costs basically nothing to try . It does increase your pollutant levels of course so bear that in mind. (on later mondeos it could cause an engine warning light, which is an MOT fail... But clearing the codes cleared the light)

But if it's the same as the mondeo, and your manifold is already full of crap, it's probably going to help to take that off and clean it out too. Which is the most horrible disgusting job I've ever done on a car, but very simple.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 3:14 pm
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I got quoted £300 for a 2005 Transit, roughly 50/50 parts/labour.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 4:39 pm
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Between £50 and £100 for the part alone depending where you get it from. If you remove it you’ll have to flash the ECU as well or you’ll get a light on the dash (MOT fail!).


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 6:33 pm
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your manifold is already full of crap, it’s probably going to help to take that off and clean it out too. Which is the most horrible disgusting job I’ve ever done on a car, but very simple.

This.

I cleaned the Galaxy when I first got it - easy to remove all the intake areas and just scrub away with some carb cleaner.

I also whipped off the connectors to EGR and cleaned what I could plus lots of carb cleaner.

One Italian clean up later (with added clouds of crap) it was fine.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 7:39 pm
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MOT changes are later this month - don’t assume that bodges that passed before will do again.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 8:37 pm
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Mr Muscle foaming oven cleaner and a toothebrush
Allow half a day to remove and de gunk and replace , should sort it unless the motor has seized but usually the plunger mechanism is jammed with soot


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 8:37 pm
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@simon_g

What, more changes?

Any details?


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 8:42 pm
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My read is that the changes are only for diesels with DPFs, and amounts to possibly a slightly stricter smoke check if you have one fitted, and a check that it's still present. Shouldn't make any difference for EGR blanking since that's all about invisibile emissions and isn't sniffed for.


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 12:05 am

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