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So I got Netflix which I was led to believe was a film tv streaming service,

but I couldn’t find any big name films, I wanted to watch Wolf of wall street and Sicario.

Then I thought ok maybe a bit of Studio Ghibli, who doesn’t like classic anime, nope.

When I looked what it did have it was just a load of American box sets, not really my thing.

So does what I want exist?

like an Itunes of films if you will, that I can easily link to from my ‘smart’ tv?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:24 pm
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There are loads of good films on there, just not big names. Broaden your mind a bit and you will be entertained.  You've nothing to lose by starting a film you don't recognise.

It also has loads of absolutely outstanding box sets which are none the worse for being American.  Seriously some of the best stuff I've seen on screen.

But if you want big name films you'll have to pay for them from whichever service has links to the studio.  There are tons of services to try:

Google Play

iTunes has movies AFAIK

Playstation Network

Now TV

Mubi

Amazon Instant Video

and loads and loads more.  I don't think any of them have all popular films, they all do deals with certain studios. However I just checked and both those films are on at least Amazon Instant Video and Google Play.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:28 pm
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Netflix doesn't always have exactly what you want every time you want it. A bit like your old video store, actually. Only much, much better.

Stick with them, and enjoy the fact that the film selection turns over every few months.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:30 pm
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Amazon Prime and/or Now TV.

I have those and Netflix and can always find something to watch.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:31 pm
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I couldn’t find any big name films

You don't think Star Wars or Mad Max are big films?

Oh and there's bloody tons of anime on there.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:35 pm
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Neflix is awesome for box sets, tonnes of very watchable stuff depending upon what you like.

If wanting films, then research popcorn time and a VPN supplier, but i didn't say that.

Kodi is a bit hit and miss as it streams, popcorn time will play as it streams, but you can pause, then go off and do other stuff whilst it downloads.

We have Amazon Prime, Prime Music for my dauhter, and Netflix. Just bin Sky and Virgin.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:46 pm
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Netflix has pulled back from Hollywood Films in the last few years in favour of original content, mostly TV that’s good and Films that they make themselves which are pretty good and ones dumped on there by studios who don’t want the expense of a cinema release which are crap.

Amazon Prime better for Films, but not by much.

’Spotify for Films’ doesn’t exist yet. Netflix got close but the studios still think there’s a market for physical media sales and digital rentals.

Oh - another option is NowTV movies, it’s basiclaly Sky Movies online for £15 a month I think .


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 7:55 pm
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What good films are on Netflix just now?


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 8:10 pm
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All about the series aka box sets


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 8:24 pm
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Bright is good fun.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 8:35 pm
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Its a FILM


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 8:36 pm
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have a look at  https://www.jus****ch.com/uk

put in a range of film you want to watch and see where they currently available.

I too wish I had better access to the exact film I want to watch rather than an OK film like you have to compromise with with netflix or amazon prime.

The other way if you are the sort of user who only watches a few hours 'tv' a week max but want it to be exactly what you want (that's me) - you could just save money from any subscription and just hire the film from amazon/apple.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 8:38 pm
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Bright is good fun.

no. its. not.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:09 pm
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Thanks for that link convert, really useful.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 9:15 pm
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Rent films from itunes etc if you want specifics.

IMO digital media is going to fragment over the next few years as the content creators take control of their own delivery and cut out the middle men. Rumour is that HBO will not sign any new on-line distribution contracts and will roll out their own platform to country's as  current contracts expire, I think Disney is planning the same. Expect all the other studios to follow suit.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 10:07 pm
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Neither Amazon prime nor Netflix are great for films. If you want to set up a vpn and access American or Canadian netflix services then they are better than the UK version but probably still not really as good as you might want them to be. Also the whole VPN thing seems to have got trickier over the last 12 months or so.

Even iTunes which is among the first legal places you can watch a downloaded film doesn't always have films to rent so you'd have to buy the film if its just been released. 1 high profile film to buy can be more than a months Netflix, so seems like poor value by comparison especially if you're a person that isn't likely to rewatch.

I had a free trial subscription to NowTV that I set up the other day because I wanted to rewatch The Wire but that once I was signed up I found out it was only available for 6 days, which would have meant around 10 episodes a day to get it watched before it disappeared. It's not a service I'd bother paying for.

I agree with MSP, the content providers want to keep control of their material and the whole idea of a single place where you pay a subscription and can watch whatever you want whenever you want is getting further and further away from becoming a reality.


 
Posted : 01/03/2018 11:33 pm
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The revenant is screening on netflix.

afaik, Netflix are rapidly expanding their workforce.

hopefully they'll get keener film buffs in the procurement depts.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 12:34 am
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Loads of good stuff on Netflix if you trawl through everything (which is the downside).

If I want big name films I tend to rent/buy on Google Play.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 9:30 am
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Agree Netflix isn't great for films, but give there own content a chance, very high quality.

watched Mute last night, one of their own films, really good, best film I've seen in quite a while


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 9:43 am
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We're watching Power on Netflix at the moment. It's a bit like Breaking Bad but with gratuitous tits (and men's bums if that's your thing).


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 9:52 am
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There is a decent enough selection of films on netflix, just not the latest and greatest but some older classics to be found. I think them investing in new original shows is a better way to spend their subscription money as they'll get more content for the same cost. I can see binging on quality box sets being more popular than films soon anyway if not already so.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 10:33 am
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Our work-resident film piracy nerd uses showbox app for all his needs, has even binned Kodi for it, and he was a proper Kodi evangelist.


 
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I'd add my own approval to that,  but the Modders don't want me to talk about it.

So I won't ....


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 11:24 am
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Regarding teh original post again, I'm almost certain Sicario and Wolf of Wallstreet were on Netflix just a while ago. Netflix don't licence films to their platform for all time, they host them for a few months then take them down. It's not dissimilar to the way terrestrial broadcaster show films, the obvious difference being you can watch them any time, over a period of months instead of tuning in at a specific time.

I've noticed occasionally that a film which has just disappeared off Netflix will start rotating on broadcast tv.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 11:57 am
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I check on Jus****ch to see which platform a film is streaming on - it's really rather good...
  https://www.jus****ch.com/uk


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 12:08 pm
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in the vast world of Netflix streaming, 1960 doesn’t exist. There’s one movie from 1961 available to watch (the original Parent Trap) and one selection from 1959 (Compulsion), but not a single film from 1960. It’s like it never happened. There aren’t any movies from 1963 either. Or 1968, 1955 or 1948. There are no Hitchcock films on Netflix. No classics from Sergio Leone or François Truffaut.

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/09/22/netflix-streaming-movies-classics-664512.html

We actually recently signed up with this - an actual DVD posting service - despite already having subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon Prime and others, just to be able to watch some classic and/or obscure films


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 12:15 pm
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I think films are generally still stuck in the video shop rental mode of online offerings to be honest. Unless you go dodgy box/site/app.

Since the dawn of the box set style tv series though, really films take a back seat for me. They just don't seem as satisfying anymore, I think they suffer from that these days, very rarely do I look forward to new films.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 12:17 pm
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Now TV has a much better selection on films than Netflix.


 
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Agree.

Kodi gets so much negative attention these days that it's becoming unusable.

Showbox, MegaboxHD, MovieHD, TerrariumTV, LivenetTV are my faves.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 12:19 pm
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I tried Kodi but just found it cumbersome, just use the app nobeer refers to.


 
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I just subscribed to Now tv movies for £3.33 a month for three months,not a great selection of films but I was hoping to watch the revenant which was there awhile ago but now seems to have gone!! A few decent oldies if you look though ,films I having watched for years like Close encounters  and a few new one to me,Get out,Logan etc.Not a massive film watcher so three months will be enough for me really.


 
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iTunes via an Apple TV 4k is my preferred option. Best availability and new stuff is often available in full fat 4K HDR/Dolby Vision. Prices vary between reasonable and silly cheap (ie. The Revenant in 4K has been as low as £3.99 to buy and as high as £9.99 - versus £5.49 to rent). CheapCharts is a good iOS app for keeping an eye out for bargains and price fluctuations.

NowTV - 720p max and money to Murdoch - no thanks.


 
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Rent films from itunes etc if you want specifics.

IMO digital media is going to fragment over the next few years as the content creators take control of their own delivery and cut out the middle men. Rumour is that HBO will not sign any new on-line distribution contracts and will roll out their own platform to country’s as  current contracts expire, I think Disney is planning the same. Expect all the other studios to follow suit.

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God that really is braindead.  If they start doing that, all it means is I will go back to piracy which is easier and free.  Greedy ****s.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 1:28 pm
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I just subscribed to Now tv movies for £3.33 a month for three months,not a great selection of films but I was hoping to watch the revenant which was there awhile ago but now seems to have gone!!

It's on Netflix at the moment.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 2:14 pm
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God that really is braindead.
although it would be annoying, it probably makes a lot of business sense if HBO wait until the last series of GoT is ready then make it available exclusively through their new on-demand service. That would generate a lot of sign-ups!


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 2:21 pm
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Netflix has never been about 'big films'. Which in my opinion is good. We need better content and outlets than the Hollywood studio system, that do pump out a majority of guff anyway.

As mentioned there are plenty of options - and Netflix does have the odd 'big' film on there.

Kodi gets so much negative attention these days that it’s becoming unusable.

Showbox, MegaboxHD, MovieHD, TerrariumTV, LivenetTV are my faves.

I'm glad for that as the system can't survive on free material. I hope the knock-off services die a sudden death soon.

Netflix is effectively a studio and distributor - when Scorsese's The Irishman turns up next year - I'm hoping that will be a huge turning point for talent and production.

There's been some fantastic stuff recently - The Sinner, One of Us (Retribution), The Crown, Damnation, Narcos, Better Call Saul 3 soon. Some material has been ahead of going to the cinema for me.

Sicario and Wolf of Wall Street - have both been there for a couple years and get purged as the licensing agreements change.

For 'big' films. La La Land, Force Awakens, 10 Cloverfield Lane, Bridge of Spies, Patriots Day, Eye in the Sky etc, Fury Road, Everest, Snowden, Zero Dark Thirty, Steve Jobs, American Sniper

Fantastic smaller films: What Maisie Knew, Joy, The Invitation, Hush, Gerald's Game, Elle, It follow, I don't feel at home in the world anymore, The Big Short, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Spotlight, Dallas Buyers Club , Neon Demon.

Some older less seen classics on there too such as the The Pledge.

There is no shortage of good material.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 2:31 pm
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although it would be annoying, it probably makes a lot of business sense if HBO wait until the last series of GoT is ready then make it available exclusively through their new on-demand service. That would generate a lot of sign-ups!

Would it though - or would people think they're already paying a shed-load for Sky and they won't pay any more.

Fragmentation is a stupid idea - it's one reason why I won't buy an Alexa type device. They just restrict choice, not expand it. I like Apple stuff - but I won't buy a HomePod as it doesn't support Spotify.

I may be out of step though, I'm more likely to say sod-them-all rather than sign up for loads of services.


 
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IMO digital media is going to fragment over the next few years as the content creators take control of their own delivery and cut out the middle men. Rumour is that HBO will not sign any new on-line distribution contracts and will roll out their own platform to country’s as  current contracts expire, I think Disney is planning the same. Expect all the other studios to follow suit.

God that really is braindead.  If they start doing that, all it means is I will go back to piracy which is easier and free.  Greedy ****.

It depends how it's implemented. Instead of dongles and websites it'll be apps on your smart tv so once they become better integrated it'll be little different from browsing channels.


 
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Netflix has never been about ‘big films’.

Apart from the fact it did start out as a DVD rental service renting out 'big films'.


 
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They already are apps on my Freesat HD box, so the implementation is not a problem for me personally.  Guess smart TVs will roll out apps shortly too if they haven't already.

But the whole reason I like netflix and spotify is that I pay for two things and pretty much all the TV, films and music I want to consume are available.

If I suddenly have to pay for HBO, Disney, Sony, Fox as separate entities it becomes a lot less appealing.

Fair enough if they want to make content exclusively available a fortnight early on the HBO channel,  hardcore fans will pay to get that early access to GOT or whatever.  But taking it off netflix etc completely is a total dick move IMHO.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 3:58 pm
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God that really is braindead. If they start doing that, all it means is I will go back to piracy which is easier and free. Greedy ****.

The studios were getting a pittance from having their content on netflix, same story as the music artists on spotify etc. I spend more on itunes rentals than netflix so I can watch what i want rather than what's available to stream, but they have recently put their rental prices up, and it is now too much IMO.

It would be interesting to see at what price point it really does affect the volume of sales and push people to download pirated content. It is years since i downloaded any pirated stuff, mainly because nearly everything I want is actually available legally now, in the past that wasn't the case. But some of the pricing is starting to take the piss.

But the reality is renting a blockbuster film is still only the price of a couple of pints and more convenient than it ever has been. The problem is that nearly everyone has seen their spending power reduced over the past 10 years, but the price of entertainment is still going up, something has to give.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 4:03 pm
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Apart from the fact it did start out as a DVD rental service renting out ‘big films’.

How they started wasn't necessarily what they were about though. But fair point even if they perhaps rented all types of films.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 4:16 pm
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But some of the pricing is starting to take the piss.

Agreed, The Amazon/Google Rental/Purchase model is too steep I think. The price of two HD rentals gets you one month of Netflix.

Amazon's service is a complete mess, and getting worse. They are offering extra services to Primer (Shudder for example the horror streaming service).  And whilst I like choice of films, it's a very greedy and confusing system.

The menu, certainly on my PS4 is a complete shambles of Prime, Stuff I've purchased, material that's not included in Prime, rentals, purchases and now these new third party services.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 4:22 pm
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Edit - Better Call Saul will be season 4, and they've only just started it so will be later than previous.


 
Posted : 02/03/2018 4:26 pm
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Another interesting development I read about is that the EU are meant to be changing the rules so that digital content purchased in any member state should be downloadable across the whole EU, bringing it in line with the rules on physical goods.


 
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that'll be handy for about 6 months.


 
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The funny thing is that sky are supportive of the change and gearing up for it (according to the news item i reads a few months ago) so maybe they still expect to be part of the single market.


 
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They already are apps on my Freesat HD box, so the implementation is not a problem for me personally. Guess smart TVs will roll out apps shortly too if they haven’t already.

But the whole reason I like netflix and spotify is that I pay for two things and pretty much all the TV, films and music I want to consume are available.

If I suddenly have to pay for HBO, Disney, Sony, Fox as separate entities it becomes a lot less appealing.

Fair enough if they want to make content exclusively available a fortnight early on the HBO channel, hardcore fans will pay to get that early access to GOT or whatever. But taking it off netflix etc completely is a total dick move IMHO.

I think we're just in a transition period between old delivery methods and new ones and I think more access is better than less. I understand where you're coming from but tbh there aren't that many big media corporations out there when you see through the company names. I don't think we'll see content fractured into millions of platforms, or if we do we'll probably see our tv's become search engines navigating between content suppliers but it'll all look the same from our interface.

Game of Thrones is always my go-to example because I was happy to buy it from itunes until I caught up to the broadcasts. if I wanted to see the latest episodes I had the choice of either buying sky, or pirating. If the latest episodes were on itunes I would by them on itunes. If it was on Netflix I would watch it on Netflix, if I could get it via HBO online I would pay for that - basically if there's something I really want to see ASAP I'll happily pay for it rather than wait for some dodgy quality upload.


 
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Another interesting development I read about is that the EU are meant to be changing the rules so that digital content purchased in any member state should be downloadable across the whole EU, bringing it in line with the rules on physical goods.

Already been announced that Britain wont stay in the "Digital Single Market" after we part company with the EU. The DSM covers a lot of things but this is one of them.


 
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