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Are back in stock, £200. My local store had at least 10 on the pallet.
Coming soon to eBay / Facebook Marketplace / Gumtree near you 🙂
They had Yamaha underwater sea scooters in there the other week for £200. About half the price of other retailers .
They had Yamaha underwater sea scooters in there the other week for £200.
Apparently they're soon to be selling pre-built dwellings in the grasslands of North America.
I quite fancy a Lidl house on the prairie.
I quite fancy a Lidl house on the prairie.
Beautiful.
😂
Sorry.
Decathlon have their X100 10ft board for the same price and in stock locally. Granted, I would have to buy a paddle and pump at Decathlon but before I decide whether to join an early queue at Lidl can anyone tell me (a SUP novice) if there is a performance difference between the Mistral board and the Decathlon one?
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/x100-10-ft-inflatable-touring-stand-up-paddle-board/_/R-p-303070?mc=8511825&c=GREEN_TURQUOISE
I've heard that they are also doing a model of a famous US sports car from the Fifties. Only one colour though .....
@AngusWells no specific feedback other than after sales support / spares are probably much easier to deal with in store at Decathlon than Lidl, who I expect will ask you to contact a 3rd party, whereas Decathlon tend to just sort you out on the spot.
I’ve heard that they are also doing a model of a famous US sports car from the Fifties. Only one colour though …..
Interesting.
I heard that Gerry Rafferty recently visited the Aviemore branch in a snowstorm to stock up on his favourite fizzy pop, took far too long browsing the middle aisle and consequently was.....stuck in the Lidl with bru
can anyone tell me (a SUP novice) if there is a performance difference between the Mistral board and the Decathlon one?
Can't tell you about either of those, but I can tell you that the previous F2 SUP that Lidl sold is great!
Similar money and available now (if you're OK with the Amazon empire), we've got a couple of the FunWater 11' SUPs: £209.95 at Amazon. There's two other colour options at £160 which look to be the same board but different graphics etc. Pump, paddle, leash, drybag, etc all included. They were recommended by a local SUP group as a good starter board for us.
I heard that Gerry Rafferty recently visited the Aviemore branch in a snowstorm to stock up on his favourite fizzy pop, took far too long browsing the middle aisle and consequently was…..stuck in the Lidl with bru
I always like to get a doughnut or other Bakers Treat when I'm there...
I heard the ancestors of Lidl's founders were responsible for Baby Jesus' ride to Bethlehem when he was still in his mummy's tummy...
As a matter of interest how much room do these take up when deflated? And how heavy in weight?
A lot less that the inflatable canoe that sits in the back of my garage unloved and unused for the last couple of years?
I went paddle boarding on holiday last week, I've now done it 3 or 4 times. I still don't get it, I just find it boring. What am I missing about SUPing?
I've just started myself, I love it!
It's just so peaceful being on the water. I don't want to just paddle about, I want to paddle with a purpose.
Had a mini adventure paddling out to an Island on Loch Ard, exploring the bothy.
Took a trip around my local coastline, nice to get a different view of the castles.
May try and get some overnight camps done, once I'm more confident/skilled.
There's a parkrun sup equivalent I've noticed.
@jonnyseven. 16.3kg for the total kit and L95 x W44 x H25cm for the rucksack.
@a11y those look interesting. It says youth on the Amazon site but the photos indicate otherwise.
I still don’t get it, I just find it boring. What am I missing about SUPing?
How far from the launch spot did you get and when you got there did you see anything interesting? Did you take a little picnic with you or a beer/coffee? On the skills front did you start practicing catching little waves or doing step turns?
They can be the water equivalent to going for a walk. You may or may not like that sort of thing and going for a walk in some dull places can be, well, dull! Learning skills on them might appeal if you are the sort of person that might like learning tricks on a bmx. YVMV.
But agreed - I'm not sure I'd get much value from drifting out 20 yards from the starting point and paddling back again. I was on one last week with a beer to watch sunset. A pair of dolphin came to check me out and went right under me. That was fun.
might have to grab one for the kids
Rather have a kayak, tried a supboard a couple weekends ago and it was shite in the surf and boring on the still.
Had a mini adventure paddling out to an Island on Loch Ard, exploring the bothy.
If you like Loch Ard islands, can I recommend...
Loch Katrine - you can put in by the ferry, there are no rules beyond 'dont get in the way of a gert big boat, Rule No.1 and all that'. Don't let the ferry or shop staff tell you otherwise.
The islands and shore at that end of Katrine are lovely.
Stronlachar is also a good paddle, but with a bigger remote feeling.
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Loch Voil -> Loch Doine. The short river is either calm/flat or a short walk in the riffled water. Loch Doine is a wild, remote spot I am back to do some camping at this autumn.
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If you are feeling brave, I can share the secret waterfall-with-beach-and-perfect-flat-campsite or old-village-spooky-but-camp-in-the-ruined-walled-garden locations on Loch Tay...They do require a crossing of Loch Tay, which can be sporting at times. There is always a walk out though if it is too lumpy.
@a11y those look interesting. It says youth on the Amazon site but the photos indicate otherwise.
I suspect that's simply dodgy translation for the listing. For scale, that earlier pic is me @ 187cm carrying the 11' board. 330lb/150kg limit which we reached with me plus 2 x mini-a11ys onboard:
I still don’t get it, I just find it boring. What am I missing about SUPing?
Personally, it's another great thing to do with the kids. And it's effing challenging to master too. Most of our uses so far have been in fairly rough seas and I'm gradually getting better at standing, so I've a lot to learn. Looking forward to paddling on some calmer bodies of water and taking in the surroundings more, heading out with a lunch etc and making it more of a journey too.
Cheers for that. Those are definitely the sort of trips I want to be doing. I did take a drive round to Loch Katrine and marvelled at how I was once able to cycle the Dukes pass :).
I did wonder about SUPing there, I saw no other water users beyond the tourist boats.
I went paddle boarding on holiday last week, I’ve now done it 3 or 4 times. I still don’t get it, I just find it boring. What am I missing about SUPing?
I find my canoe(s) and kayak(s) have all be great at journeying. They take me to wild places, push me to paddle a few hours until I am tired, are perfect for exploring spaces and places. They take me to the adrenaline rush and technicality that is white water paddling. They allow me to take camping kit, a brew kit and some nice food.
None of these are as compatible with SUP'ing. You can do them, but they are a much more focussed way of getting on the water. Hard to take kit, harder to paddle long distances, really hard to get onto moving water or bigger open water. I have tried SUP a few times - but get on with my canoes and kayaks more. 👍
edit: they are easier to store, cheaper to buy, offer more initial excitement, better all body workout, simple to understand, less affected by wind.
(And I haven't got started really on places to paddle...some awesome trips planned shortly).
If you are feeling brave, I can share the secret waterfall-with-beach-and-perfect-flat-campsite or old-village-spooky-but-camp-in-the-ruined-walled-garden locations on Loch Tay…They do require a crossing of Loch Tay, which can be sporting at times. There is always a walk out though if it is too lumpy.
Yes please! Planning a canoe trip with my lad in the next couple of weeks.
I will PM you.
If you are feeling brave, I can share the secret waterfall-with-beach-and-perfect-flat-campsite or old-village-spooky-but-camp-in-the-ruined-walled-garden locations on Loch Tay…They do require a crossing of Loch Tay, which can be sporting at times. There is always a walk out though if it is too lumpy.
yes please.
If you are feeling brave, I can share the secret waterfall-with-beach-and-perfect-flat-campsite or old-village-spooky-but-camp-in-the-ruined-walled-garden locations on Loch Tay…They do require a crossing of Loch Tay, which can be sporting at times. There is always a walk out though if it is too lumpy.
Yes please also. 🙏
I'm off to Glencoe this week and taking my sup.
Any recommendations around there?
Thought I might paddle down Loch Leven, out of Loch Linnhe, loop the isle of Mull and back.
Not sure about after lunch though.
I still don’t get it, I just find it boring. What am I missing about SUPing?
if the water is flat it does get boring unless you are on a journey / explore
go in the sea and with a bit of swell and its a more interesting prospect and definately a workout! i find my core aches after a decent wavey paddle if i`m stood up.
if you are near a surf beach then its great (but really difficult!) in teh long flat waves that are crap for surfing and bodyboarding.
our kids love them as a floating diving platform and snorkelling base
it was shite in the surf
most paddleboards are not designed for surf. they have no rails therefore no stability on a wave. I have a 10ft surf sup which is great in teh surf. i bought it after trying to surf our decathlon one and failing. i can actually surf the 10ft board like a longboard on its own in the right waves.
Re the difference between the Lidl mistral and decathlon x100. We have both. The decathlon is the 11’ version as I think the 10’ has too mean a weight limit for 95kg me. It was as the same price. The decathlon one seems more stable, harder to turn, maybe slower. I think the Lidl one is better quality. Feels heavier when carrying in the back pack. Better accessories with it.
I have the Decathlon X100 11ft and the Lidl Mistral. Mistral package better VFM but board vs board I slightly prefer the Decathlon - seems slightly more rigid and stable.
Those who asked, ygm about Loch Tay.
@kayak23
Glencoe I'm less up on. Sea there has a few chunky tidal movements, but some lovely bays. Ride the tide for some of it...
Not far away: Loch Sunart is a great spot I've kayaked and canoed a few times. Launch at various places on North shore, or a couple of lay-bys on South shore towards fish farm.
I also think a paddle across to Lismore or Eriska beaches would be lovely, from Appin area.
So what do you get for £1000 with a RED SUP that you don’t get with a Lidle/Decathlon one? I’m tempted by a Lidle Mistral ( I haven’t heard that brand name in a while, reminds me of Fuertaventura 😎) but if the kids are involved I want it to be v safe obv…
I was at Beadnell and the SUP hire there uses RED boards so I looked them up thinking I would get a couple, then promptly decided I’d need to win the lottery first!
Would a SUP be any good for bimbling up and down the canal?
If you are feeling brave, I can share the secret waterfall-with-beach-and-perfect-flat-campsite or old-village-spooky-but-camp-in-the-ruined-walled-garden locations on Loch Tay…They do require a crossing of Loch Tay, which can be sporting at times. There is always a walk out though if it is too lumpy.
Yes please here as well!
Would a SUP be any good for bimbling up and down the canal?
Yeah, I've used mine for that.
Those who asked, ygm
Thanks so much Matt.
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So what do you get for £1000 with a RED SUP that you don’t get with a Lidle/Decathlon one?
Similar to what you might imagine you'd get on say a 3k mountain bike over a £600 one.
Everything is that bit better, from the design and development of the boards to the physical construction techniques and materials. Also the things like the paddle you get, the pump you get. Generally everything is going to be a higher quality.
Red are based in the UK and so you get benefits from that too.
There are some interesting videos on the company on YouTube that show a degree of why they attract higher prices.
Having said that, my board was expensive enough at £650ish and is a Jobe. Great quality over the first board I got (Aquaplanet Rokit) but still much cheaper than Red.
SportPursuit have the Coosurf range.
I bought a 10'4 CoolSurf Sail to go with the Decathlon board we've had for a few years. Whilst thew quality isn't quite as good, it's good enough for the 10 times or so a year we use ours. Slightly narrower, so not as stable, but doesn't seem to be an issue for Miss and Mrs OTS.
Less than £200 all in https://www.sportpursuit.com/catalog/product/view/id/2266567
thanks matt_outandabout
I went for a Bluefin cruise 10.8. Heavy board, has a 5 year warranty, also UK based. I can't tell the difference between it and the board I had a lesson on which was a RED. I'm sure the RED will be a better board, but in the meantime the cruise will do me.
So what do you get for £1000 with a RED SUP that you don’t get with a Lidle/Decathlon one?
The difference is definitely diminishing a lot. In my experience the heavier you are the more you'll notice. Better manufacturing/QC and a few subtle extra features means they pump up to higher pressures (which is a pain when actually blowing them up!) which results in a stiffer board. That's pretty much an irrelevance if you are an 11 year old streak of piss and using it as a glorified diving platform. But becomes more significant if your at 90kg and paddling in lumpy stuff.
Another difference you may or may not value is the work Red do to ensure those manufacturing the boards overseas are well treated and paid fairly. I know John Hibbard and know the pains they go to. To be clear, it's still probably not great and the whole great lump of plastic that because of the construction techniques and materials used is not easy to recycle sat in the shed with (for some) very limited use still is a hard sell but their ethical standards will be a lot higher than the box shifters.
Must admit I was struggling to see the point unless it's the water equivalent of a stroll down the beach to a pub.
I did try one last year in reasonably calm water and after 5 mins getting balance it just seemed like a fairly slow way to get somewhere but we couldn't as it was hired and we had to stay inside flags so just kept padding in big ovals.
Interesting point about BMX tricks... as this was basically what we ended up trying after the first 15 mins...
I'm sure its a relaxing enough way to get somewhere... it just seems to be missing the "fun" part.
Must admit I was struggling to see the point unless it’s the water equivalent of a stroll down the beach to a pub.
Pretty much. I've paddled around the bay with a friend and had a coffee and cake before paddling back. Down the river, coffee, back. It's a pleasant way to spend an evening, or Sunday morning. I don't yet trust my competence to paddle around the sea-cliffs a few miles further along the coast, but I've seen plenty of people doing it, and that means you'd get to see seals, seabirds, great scenery, maybe dolphins and bigger stuff occasionally. You don't often get that on a stroll to the pub. ;D
Must admit I was struggling to see the point
As most people soon realise who are into paddle sports, it allows you a view of and access to some incredible places that many others don't ever see.
I've kayaked in river valleys all over many parts of the world that basically, only kayakers tend to ever see.
It's different on sups of course but that still stands. Someone likened it to a nice walk before and I suppose it is.
I'm currently working my way along the whole of Shakespeare's Avon in Warwickshire in around 10 mile bites.
I've seen some absolutely beautiful parts of the river that I wouldn't have seen otherwise and it's just a really pleasant and chilled way to explore.
It's not high on adrenaline, except for when passing swans with young, but it's just...nice.
I also like the portability of it over my kayak or Canadian canoe. I can and have actually carried my sup on my motorbike.
I've done a river section where I left my van at the end, got the bus to the start, then paddled downstream to the van.
Hard to do that with a canoe.
Partly the point, for me at least.
As most people soon realise who are into paddle sports, it allows you a view of and access to some incredible places that many others don’t ever see.
This.
An amazing way of travelling and exploring.
We are back on the Spey this autumn - a few years since I have been, time to remind myself how utterly absorbing a paddle down a river for a few days is. Tonic for the soul. With added whisky tasting.
Do you use a Canadian canoe for that?
We have a some sea kayaks, but starting to think I want a canoe for inland waterways.
I bought the decathlon X100 Kayak a few months ago mainly for use on hols. Me and my youngest took it along the Macclesfield Canal a few weeks ago and it was great. I must have been along the canal 100's of times before but the perspective was completely different on the canal. This is just by AstraZeneca's site in Macclesfield but it could be anywhere.
i like that it had the portability of a SUP but it's more practical and I'm much less likely to fall in and catch some dodgy disease.
@robola - we do use open canoes, but have also kayaked in white water or touring kayaks. I would take a sea kayak down the Spey, easy and fast trip with only a few iffy corners at Aviemore and just before Spey Bay.
As we are taking kayaks as well, Mrs Kilo has ordered a Mercury GTX Solo modular kayak for our place in Ireland. Not really able to stick a full size kayak on a hire car roof so this is to complement her SUP. Only gone for a single seater - I don’t do the life aquatic.
Will report on it in a few weeks.
@matt_outandabout Cheers, good to know. But then I don't get to justify a new boat to the Mrs...
Ah yes, but bank of plastic time.
Our boats cost £300 and £350 8 years ago. They are ex-hire, heavy workhorses that have seen a hard life. I have replaced a seat and some bolts (maybe +£100).
They are worth easily what I paid for them - possibly post covid even more...
#ManMaths
I bought a Lidl Mistral board last summer - queued outside at opening time to get one. It was one board per customer and not everyone in the queue got one.
Fast fwd a year and I noticed a pallet of untouched boards in the middle isle in my local store on Monday tea time.
FYI, my board developed a few bubbles under the foam pad, so I emailed Lidl customer support and they gave me a refund as no replacements were available. Turns out the bubbles have gone away and the board is still going strong.....
One benefit of a SUP over an inflatable Kayak is that they are much easier to clean and dry after use.
Mrs Kilo has ordered a Mercury GTX Solo modular kayak
interested to know how you get on with that.
I came close to getting a tandem tequila for accompanying mrs TR on her long swims - then bought a SUP.
I demoed one and it wasnt great - they didnt lock together all that rigidly .
they then released the mk2 which addressed the issues (mojito i think it is ) and it was well out my budget 🙁
I have an inflatable kayak and a sup, both similar price from Decathlon. I much prefer the kayak. It's much easier to go in the direction you want without constantly swapping sides, and quicker too I think.
I bought MrsRNP one last year, she's tried it as an SUP but I tend to pinch it more and use it with the back rest as an open canoe - the dog loves swimming alongside!
I'd like a Canadian but we wouldn't use it enough to justify it beyond the Aldi / Mistral.
The drop stitch kayaks are much easier to dry than a standard inflatable kayaks. They are also much cheaper in France than the UK. 300E vs £400 for the two man and 380E vs £500 for the three. I'm going see if I can convince the missus to buy the three man when we are on next on hols so we have a 2 and 3 and then we could all kayak together
It’s much easier to go in the direction you want without constantly swapping sides
Stack your hands vertically. Keep your hands straight(er). Bring the paddle put at your feet. You should be able to hundreds of yards without switching.
Or learn to J-stroke…
It’s much easier to go in the direction you want without constantly swapping sides, and quicker too I think.
Tell me you taught your self how to paddle board without telling me you taught your self how to paddleboard.
Stack your hands vertically. Keep your hands straight(er). Bring the paddle put at your feet
Not exactly sure what these things mean but I do bring my paddle out at my feet.
I have read about J strokes and that's what I was going for.
Tell me you taught your self how to paddle board without telling me you taught your self how to paddleboard.
Thanks for the passive aggression everyone, it really makes me feel good. Keep it coming 🙂 sorry I failed your barrier for entry by not coughing up for organised lessons.
sorry I failed your barrier for entry by not coughing up for organised lessons.
Chip on your shoulder much .
I've not had an organised lesson either. But I do have friends who can paddleboard competently and were able to help me get an adequate j stroke on such that I can move fast without looking like I'm stirring the soup or changing gear in a 2cv
Not exactly sure what these things mean but I do bring my paddle out at my feet.
This is bad (like really bad) - the paddle is across the body, with bent arms. The paddle will describe an arc as its moved through the water, moving wide mid stroke, turning you and necessitating you to swap sides frequently. It's slow, tiring and tedious constantly swapping paddle hands. And what you see at most beaches up and down the country.
This is much better - the left arm is across the body so it is 'stacked' vertically on top of the right making the paddle held vertically. The paddle is nice and far forward in the catch with the straight arms using the core to do most of the work for a powerful stroke and is pulled back straight and close to the board. For cherries on top a bit more pressure on the opposite foot to keep it running straight even more.
TThey are also much cheaper in France than the UK. 300E vs £400 for the two man and 380E vs £500 for the three. I’m going see if I can convince the missus to buy the three man when we are on next on hols so we have a 2 and 3 and then we could all kayak together
Ooh, any links to French dropstitch kayaks?
I've done enough paddling of other forms (and had the sore elbow tendons) to not do it like that. I do as per the videos mostly but it's still harder than it is in a kayak for obvious reasons.
Today I was paddling for about 10 strokes on each side. My daughter was sat on the front which I don't think helped. I had thought it maybe better to move slightly further forward, being further away from the skeg. But now I'm thinking that was the wrong approach.
This is bad (like really bad)
The people in the videos are doing that instead of pulling all the way back to the end of the board which is what I started out doing.
I paddle my sup opposite to my Canadian canoe, in that the micro-correction element of my stroke is at the beginning rather than the end.
It's got a degree of a 'hanging draw' stroke, as it's called in a kayak, but it's a hanging draw into a stroke.
Is that called a reverse-J?
I tend to arrive at technique by trial and error rather than instruction. 😊
I've no idea how other people paddle sups.
Not sure if that's 'wrong' or not, but I can go as far as I want paddling on one side, just as I can in my canoe and it feels like a fairly efficient stroke usually.
I should probably get someone to look at what I do and see if it's the most efficient way for me or not. 🤔
Yes, I do the same. A small difference of angle in the catch either way followed by a conventional stroke nudges the board either way. On the surf sup which is far more manouverable but where you don't have time to switch hands you really can pull the board around without switching hands but an exaggerated paddle entry. You can rapidly turn left with the paddle on your left side for example.
Also, like a sea kayak you can edge (though admittedly less on a soft rounded sided isup), with the side of the board pushed into the water slightly going faster and turning you the opposite way. So the pressure on your feet can make a difference too.
It’s got a degree of a ‘hanging draw’ stroke, as it’s called in a kayak, but it’s a hanging draw into a stroke.
Bow draw into power stroke I would call it.
Dare you to try a bow jamb on a SUP... 🫣😀
Does anyone have any experience of Wave SUPs? In the event that theres none left at Lidl when I nip after work!
I'm not one for organised group activities but if you can join in with good SUP club it's really worth it for the knowledge that you can gain to get more enjoyment and safety. The one we go to doesn't have membership fees, tell them you are going and pay a fiver with access to at least 3 coaches on the water, shower facilities if you have a dunk in the river etc.
Those of you that are paddling around on rivers and canals, are you members of British Canoeing or similar to cover licencing fees? Or just winging it and hoping to not get asked?
Yeah we have BC membership, I see it as good karma. Some of the lock keepers will ask if you want to go through.
IdleJon
Pretty much. I’ve paddled around the bay with a friend and had a coffee and cake before paddling back. Down the river, coffee, back. It’s a pleasant way to spend an evening, or Sunday morning. I don’t yet trust my competence to paddle around the sea-cliffs a few miles further along the coast, but I’ve seen plenty of people doing it, and that means you’d get to see seals, seabirds, great scenery, maybe dolphins and bigger stuff occasionally. You don’t often get that on a stroll to the pub. ;D
kayak23
As most people soon realise who are into paddle sports, it allows you a view of and access to some incredible places that many others don’t ever see.
I’ve kayaked in river valleys all over many parts of the world that basically, only kayakers tend to ever see.It’s different on sups of course but that still stands. Someone likened it to a nice walk before and I suppose it is.
So I'm not saying I don't mind a nice walk for the sake of a walk... or perhaps I am (introspective)???
My sons (12) mother decided to buy one (well used my CC to buy one) and I'm suddenly expected to go on holiday with them and "entertain my kid" with it (In Newquay) but I can't see how its going to "entertain him" when he'd obviously want to be surfing assuming any surf at all and won't be allowed to actually do anything interesting.
Mate of mine just bought 2 sup’s from sup warehouse 199 each on offer with pump paddle and bag. No idea what make though
Osprey Action Sports have a board on sale at 195 that looks v similar to the Lidl one - very similar kit
My sons (12) mother decided to buy one (well used my CC to buy one) and I’m suddenly expected to go on holiday with them and “entertain my kid” with it (In Newquay) but I can’t see how its going to “entertain him” when he’d obviously want to be surfing assuming any surf at all and won’t be allowed to actually do anything interesting.
Paddling and standing up on a sup in even very mild 'chop' in the sea is 'entertaining' and pretty hard.
You can surf them to a degree too.
Pretty sure you'll not find it boring.
Thinking of getting one for bimbling up and down the canal with one of the kids sat on. Something like the Osprey one. Good idea? Might take it on holiday to Anglesey too.
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@thegeneralist Here is the link to page in French Decathlon page
Drop stitch starting at 500 quid or so.