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We can still mention Mark Francois' height? Yes? I wouldn't if it wasn't for his yearning to be seen as a regular military man, and his amazing belief in his own importance. Don't know why the combination is funny. And for others it isn't. There's just something about him.
Not in the same context as brownperson's comments.
Gammon is the skin colour which a white person's changes to when angry😠- sometimes about people of different skin colour or ethnicity.
I'll now go and waste my time on something else.
Oops.. sorry.... wrong thread. I'll leave it here anyway. Might add some photos to try and lighten things up...
So to take your example, I as a white guy cant have any opinion on the ‘N word’?
Have all the opinions you want!
The other race tell us if a term is offensive.
Doesn't mean we have to tolerate racism in absence of subject.
Edit: realise you were probably probing the other person but I'd already committed to responding thusly.
So to take your example, I as a white guy cant have any opinion on the ‘N word’? I’m not disagreeing just making sure I understand you
You can have an opinion on anything you want. It’s just that if you want your opinions to be taken seriously, to have weight in a discussion, then you need to have some kind of qualification. For example; you can have an opinion on the Earth being flat, but that would be without qualification, as anyone who knows anything about reality, would be able to easily disqualify your opinion as being absolute rubbish. With issues such as certain terms and use of language within a particular context, then qualification comes with knowledge, experience and/or identity. This is why I was asking about the appropriateness of the term ‘gammon’ on here, because the demographic of this forum is overwhelmingly white and male. If I want to learn about performative language that affects people of colour, this is not the forum I would personally choose. That does not reflect at all upon the intelligence of anyone on this forum, it just means there will be fewer qualified voices to listen to. But regarding the term ‘gammon’, in my view this has been an excellent forum to find appropriate qualified voices.
Do we know who came up with calling him Penfold in the media because he fits the post so well!?
We prefer Bloater, another MP in the Army reserve who wears his bit part service like a cloak of credibility.
As if I couldn't loathe the bloke enough already, the fact that he squeezes that fat little arse into a uniform manages to draw a little more spite out of me.
If I want to learn about performative language that affects people of colour
That should read 'pejorative', not performative. I can only assume autocorrect sneaked in there whilst I wasn't looking.
Some of the posts are tedious; from my brief post to the sunalk thread - posters attempting to make something out of nothing.
Gammon is the skin colour which a white person’s changes to when angry😠- sometimes about people of different skin colour or ethnicity.
Do non-Caucasian people not get flushed cheeks when really angry?
The other race tell us if a term is offensive.
To be fair, a given member of "the other race" can only provide their own opinion. Whilst this is usually a good yardstick, I've met people of all shades whose opinion is simply ludicrous. Some folk just have a chip on their shoulder - in some cases understandably of course - and will go from zero to outraged when no offence was even present let alone intended.
'Do non-caucasian people not get flushed cheeks when really angry?'
I'm sure they do but the change in skin colour is much less visible due to them being, as you phrase it,
non-caucasaian.
Maybe you have non-caucasian eyes which render such changes visible to you; I don't.
Stop attempting to be be an argumentative/provocative tit; it's a boring facade.
To remind ypu, you're no longer a mod.
Personal insults are always a good sign that you're winning in a disagreement. And quite what my status as "not a moderator" just like you has any bearing on, I have no idea. Or indeed, what difference you think it would make if I still was. I always took great pains to differentiate my "user" posts from my "moderator" posts.
Did you have a point to contribute to the discussion or did you just want to contradict your own argument and then take a cheap shot at me?
Do non-Caucasian people not get flushed cheeks when really angry?
It doesn't matter. You're trying to pretend that the "gammon" insult isn't directed at a specific type of white person, and that's just not what the stereotype is.
You’re trying to pretend that the “gammon” insult isn’t directed at a specific type of white person, and that’s just not what the stereotype is.
Doesn’t matter what ethnicity the person it's aimed at has, if people can't debate without resorting to stereotypes and name calling they are failing to debate. See also having a go at someones height and/or trouser length.
Some of the posts are tedious; from my brief post to the sunalk thread – posters attempting to make something out of nothing.
Mostly this...
We can still mention Mark Francois’ height? Yes? I wouldn’t if it wasn’t for his yearning to be seen as a regular military man, and his amazing belief in his own importance. Don’t know why the combination is funny. And for others it isn’t. There’s just something about him.
I think it’s possibly because he’s a caricature of something,possibly from a load of ‘60s or ‘70s war movies or those little war II comics sort of obsessed with WW2 and how we won it sorts.