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My 1.9 tdi touran won't start. Worked fine when parked. Start it next morning and turns over nice and fast but WILL NOT FIRE.

Anti shudder flap is operating as it should.

Fuel is getting out the tank and through the filter.

Battery appear fine (ctek charger and conditioner on it as i flatted it trying ti restart)

Having just dropped a bolt and had to crawl about in a wet road trying to fish the ****er out i am sending it to a garage if it isnti fixed by tomorrow.


 
Posted : 02/06/2018 10:56 pm
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Have you turned it off and on again?


 
Posted : 02/06/2018 10:58 pm
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Immobiliser fault. Or rather, immobiliser too effective.


 
Posted : 02/06/2018 11:01 pm
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Are the fuel lines transparent? Can you see any air bubbles in the fuel line? When was your fuel filter last changed?


 
Posted : 02/06/2018 11:03 pm
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Fuel contamination - water or air in the system?


 
Posted : 02/06/2018 11:08 pm
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Fuel contamination – water or air in the system?

Or petrol?  Who filled it, and how long ago? how sure are you it was def diesel?


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 4:51 am
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Have you turned it off and on again?

I feel like giving it a hard reboot!

Immobiliser fault. Or rather, immobiliser too effective.

Hadnt considered that. But from memory the imobiliser on my other vw let the engine start then killed it.

Are the fuel lines transparent? Can you see any air bubbles in the fuel line? When was your fuel filter last changed?

Its not a vacume system the pump is in the tank so not really possible to suck air in. Tank is registering as quarter full.

Fuel contamination – water or air in the system?

Or petrol?  Who filled it, and how long ago? how sure are you it was def diesel?

It always gets brimmed by me and its now at a quarter so i sincerely doubt its i missfuel/contamination. I'll whip out the filter that s sensible. It was perfectly well behaved until the moment it wouldnt start.

I've checked alll the engine bay fuses.

I've also checked the timingbelt  is present.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 6:06 am
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Check the fuel pump fuse, I ‘borrowed’ what I thought was a spare fuse in the cabin fuse box when I blew the radio fuse in a caddy and the engine ran fine for about 10 miles, then wouldn’t start. It turned over really fast though making me think it had lost compression.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 8:25 am
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I've seen these symptoms in a focus TDCI, turned out to be a crank position sensor issue.  Easy fix.  Can you plug in a diagnostic thingy and read any error codes?


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 8:48 am
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Get it plugged in. Parts darts is expensive


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 9:11 am
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Plugging in is looking like my own option. Gaaaargh.

Will some one come with a pluggy in thing? Or to i have to push the ****er?

Thanks for input.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 10:06 am
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If you find a mobile mechanic*  with vagcom he will come round.

* Note lots of non mechanics on Facebook with the computers advertising their services cheap.... Might be worth getting the codes off one of them and not letting them near your engine 🙂 Google the codes and symptoms -not always the immediate code that causes the issue.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 10:11 am
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Cool.

Just one more thing i have just noticed.

No rpm on startup. That screams sensor to me?


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 10:32 am
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Yes. The easy place to start with no code reader is to check the connection to the sensor is good. A wee wiggle may get you going.

I used to have a solenoid that sometimes requires a whack to get it to work.

EDIT: And I think the pump in the tank is just a lift pump to move fuel to the engine. The high pressure pump will be under the bonnet.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 10:52 am
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Should said. I do have a code reader but its telling me heehaw.


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 10:58 am
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Cam position sensor?. I had this fail, started with refusing to hot start, then intermittent cutting out, sometimes did what you describe. Then one day would not start at all, completely dead, not even a click. This was over the course of 2 -3 months. Mine was a 2.0 PD.

The problems would come and go. First time I took it to a garage, no faults showed up. I lived with it on the grounds that it would start working a few hours later. Until the day it was completely 'dead' and Mrs Sims couldn't get to work as I was blocking her car in - she arranged for it to go to a VW dealer whilst stuck at home (I got a lift to work with a colleague).


 
Posted : 03/06/2018 11:13 am

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