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Currently in Minor Injuries having been bitten by a dog on the way to work. Calf bite, puncture wounds and swelling so they wanted to look at it and check it over.
3 dogs (one large, two medium) ran at me all off the lead whilst cycle commuting. No idea which one bit me. Owners didn’t apologise, said I was cycling too fast and walked off.
It was always going to happen quite frankly. The amount of dogs that run at me and almost bite when I’m cycling - one was always going to find my leg eventually.
I’m beyond anger - what’s the point. This country has a dog fetish and there is nothing a normal person can do about it.
Im sure it will happen again.
Owners didn’t apologise, said I was cycling too fast and walked off.
What grade A ****s!
No.
the dog needs removing from the owner and rehoming with someone who can already look after dogs properly. The owner needs a caution, a ban from keeping animals and a £1000 fine which is donated to the NHS.
That really sucks, hope it’s a quick recovery. I would suggest reporting it to the police but I’m unsure how helpful that/they would be
im a dog owner and I love dogs. I have been at the receiving end of both angry dogs and angry owners. My dogs largely stay on lead as they are stupid and unpredictable. That’s for their sake and others sake. The dogs in question sound out of control which is against the law. Owners should be punished
I hope this doesn’t turn into the usual dog ownership argument
This is a Police matter. Report it, request help identifying the dogs and owners locally maybe on social media.
In the meantime, hope its nothing serious and you heal fast.
Police and watch the snivelling when Dangerous Dogs Act gets applied.Some dog-owners don't help themselves and the attitude displayed indicates that a harsh lesson for dogs and owner is required.
That's awful.
Report to the police and try to move on with your life. Not gonna help you to fume about it.
This is a Police matter. Report it, request help identifying the dogs and owners locally maybe on social media.
In the meantime, hope its nothing serious and you heal fast.
As a dog owner... Agreed. Definitely post on da socials dog owners generally know othe dog owners especially the nightmares i'd happily shop any owner allowing this happen so it doesn't happen again (or contributes to it not happening again). Please report it it might be the final trigger needed for something to be done or atleast go on the record.
Also. I am really sorry it happened, i was bitten in the face by a dog and it took me quite a while to be happy around them again and still don't trust anything that approaches in an odd manner.
I'm sorry this happened OP, as a dog owner, it really annoys me when people don't control their dogs properly. Healing vibes.
I’m beyond anger – what’s the point. This country has a dog fetish and there is nothing a normal person can do about it.
I think the issue is this country has a surfeit of ****less morons who spoil things for everyone else, its not limited to people who don't take proper care of dogs unfortunately.
I think the issue is this country has a surfeit of ****less morons who spoil things for everyone else, its not limited to people who don’t take proper care of dogs unfortunately.
Very much this.
Another idiot ruining it for us responsible dog owners. Mine's trained to sit at my feet for all cyclists and runners we encounter. Although he's an unemployed Collie and loves a job to do.
Have you considered going on a more appropriate forum to vent? Say Dogsnet - or even mumsnet?
I'm sorry - I didn't realise it wasn't appropriate to post my annoyance about being bitten by a dog whilst cycling on a cycling forum? Are you sure its not you in the wrong place? Or is this just a dog forum now? It does kinda look like one.
Yeah shit owners give the good owners a bad name. Hope you recover soon.
Probably you were jumping a red light like all cyclists though.
First off I'm sorry you've been bitten and absolutely the owners of those dogs should have taken responsibility, their actual behaviour means they're not fit to keep them I'd agree.
Speaking as a dogger and regular commuter cyclist on shared paths, both activities expose me to a lot of dogs, I do think it's a minority of owners that are irresponsible though. They are the ones that stick in your mind of course, the normally behaved ones just aren't memorable.
You dog owners are hilarious, acting like this is some kind of isolated incident…that this vast nation of incredibly responsible dog owners and their well trained dogs are being let down by a tiny minority of idiots…..
It was this bit I was highlighting. STWers are probably almost all the responsible type, so do feel let down by the idiots!
But it's awful you've been bitten. And it is always the owners' fault - some people just genuinely seem to think they have zero responsibility or reason to actually make an effort with their dog
Definitely report it - next "fast" cyclist might be a child
IME its about 50 / 50 well trained and poorly trained dogs. One of the issues is that dog owners think behaviour is acceptable that non dog owners do not ie running up to folk or having poor recall etyc etc.
this is why again IMO / IME that dog owners on here think the problems are a tiny minority - its because they do not understands the viewpoint and wishes of non dog owners.
The only acceptable behaviour is that the dog ignores anyone not its owner
They just don’t understand that non dog owners don’t want the same thing (or we’d have a dog!) We’re not scared, we don’t want to ‘understand’ your dog. We just don’t want it anywhere near us unless its trotting by on a lead.
Posted 53 minutes ago
Yep times 100!
'Oh sorry, he's not good with bikes' Well ****ing keep it on a lead when you're on a shared use path you moron.
'Can you just stop moving while he finishes running around your legs barking?' No. I'm getting out of this situation as fast as possible and if your mutt chases me then you've lost your dog.
Sorry you got bitten OP, it's rubbish. Do what you can with the police - the owners and dogs need sorting.
I agree that the UK has a dog fetish. I actually like (some) dogs but where I live dogs are everywhere. On beaches where they are banned in the summer. In nature reserves and SSSIs causing endless disturbance to ground nesting birds and vulnerable winter wader populations, crapping on meadows that make them impossible to cut for hay, in rivers where their flea treatments are damaging and ponds dug wildlife that could do without wallowing canines.
Cycling to work is like a dog slalom made worse by extendable leads and grumpy owners or owners that have loud exaggerated conversations with their dogs which are designed to convey subliminal messages to you that really they would rather you not ride down the path and make them have to control Fido. Yes I know they are shared use paths but shared with walkers and kids not dogs that don’t need to be there…
Walking round the woods (especially with kids) you pass other walkers with a quiet hello and no drama, meet a dog walker and who knows what kind of kerfuffle will ensue. All this is before you even consider the aggressive nasty dogs that cause the kind of incident that kicked this thread off.
I know this post won’t be popular… but I wish that there were a lot fewer dogs about the place.
So because you've been bitten once you've leapt to a whole host of bollox generalisations and assumptions and managed to label most dogs and owners as savages / scum. That says more about you than anyone else.
Feels like OP is enjoying this a bit too much.
Get well soon, hope nothing serious. I had a dog come running out of the bushes at me and take a chunk out of my right leg about 30 years ago at Caeser's Camp. Still have the scar, and it ruined a pair of Gore tights. Owners just disappeared sharpish, didn't even check if I was OK. Idiots.
Love my dog, though.
So because you’ve been bitten once you’ve leapt to a whole host of bollox generalisations and assumptions and managed to label most dogs and owners as savages / scum. That says more about you than anyone else.
So how often does he have to get bitten before he’s allowed to express an opinion? He’s the victim here not dog owners.
You dog owners are hilarious, acting like this is some kind of isolated incident…that this vast nation of incredibly responsible dog owners and their well trained dogs are being let down by a tiny minority of idiots…..when we all know that’s absolute bollox
I'm really sorry you've been bitten, but as a non dog owner, my experience riding around dogs, often on country parks, bridleways and towpaths - is that the majority of dogs/owners are well trained or on a lead, and it's very rare that a dog makes any attempt to come near me.
this is why again IMO / IME that dog owners on here think the problems are a tiny minority – its because they do not understands the viewpoint and wishes of non dog owners.
I think you will find. That responsible dog dog owners are well aware of the problems. I can guarantee you i have had more run ins with out of control dogs with my dog on a lead than any random non dogger just minding their business.
It is a tiny minority just like its a tiny minority of drivers/cyclists/youth/religionists/right wingers/left wingers/brexiteers/remoaners that cause all the problem associated with any of those topics.
Everyone has said report the incident move on.
So how often does he have to get bitten before he’s allowed to express an opinion? He’s the victim here not dog owners.
I have been knocked over on a green man by a cyclist. So i assume i am perfectly entitled to call you a selfish ****?
But its not a tioy minority IME - its about 50/50. You just make my point for me. dog owners think behaviour is acceptable that non dog owners do not
But it is a tiny majority.
You just make my point for me. dog owners think behaviour is acceptable that non dog owners do not
I'm a non dog owner and made my point above. Obviously our individual experiences will vary based on location, but it was a very busy night for dog walkers in our local country park last night but I lead a group of 18 cyclists on a 13 mile loop with not a single problem..
I'm with the OP. Too many irresponsible people who have got dogs as fur babies that they cannot/won't control are making the outdoors a pain for anyone on a bike. I like dogs, don't own one but too many people excuse their behavior when we are really talking about dogs that are out of control. My neighbour has a huge fluffy teddy bear of a dog which she thinks is ok to blunder round our garden and I'm a miserable sod cos I object. My sister has a large, nervous Alsatian/husky cross that chases hares, horses, reacts aggressively when scared. According to my sis this is acceptable because it's highly strung! The attitude seems to be "I want so I can have and everybody else can just suck it up"
The attitude seems to be “I want so I can have and everybody else can just suck it up”
Which is nothing to do with dog ownership. Its prevalent everywhere at the moment.
but it was a very busy night for dog walkers in our local country park last night but I lead a group of 18 cyclists on a 13 mile loop with not a single problem..
Not one dog off a lead running free that you had to slow for? Not one extendable lead across the path that you had to slow for? Not one dog barking at the bikes?
I am certainly suprised because that is not my experience. Mine is that every ride I get multiple instances of these things
But its not a tioy minority IME – its about 50/50. You just make my point for me. dog owners think behaviour is acceptable that non dog owners do not
No i didn't. You are discussing the split of dogs that approach you. I am saying IME the number of dogs that actually approach you is small.
And lets both remember that experience is not the same as facts.
I really didn't want to get into an argument on this thread.
The OP is rightly pissed off he should rant away. I hope in time though he realises that tarring everyone based on shitty experiences is rubbish for the soul.
Sienna would like to apologies on behalf of all dogs (they had a meeting) and offer you a choice of either a complimentary Tomato or Strawberry plant from her stall to keep your Vitamin C levels up and help with the recover.
The OP is rightly pissed off he should rant away. I hope in time though he realises that tarring everyone based on shitty experiences is rubbish for the soul.
Exactly, you have my sympathy. But your rant is like the daily **** I get from drivers on my commute that think all cyclist are Charlie Alliston.
You were cycling too fast for what? Dafuq are the dogs like when they see cars?
Sorry you got bitten. I've been bitten before (twice now). Both times doing my paper round (it was years ago).
My new pup says sorry on behalf of the meanie dogs and offers his paw in friendship. (7 months old Cavoodle)
WRT the OP....
GF and I got chased by two massive Maremma Sheep dogs for 100m or so the other day..... Bearing their teeth. Was a bit scary. Did nothing for my Z2 training. Squirted my water bottle at them and fortunately they backed off.
No idea what we else we could do.... There were another two in the adjacent field trotting over, too. No owner around for miles.
Joshvegas I agree it's people we are complaining about, not dogs. Same as the idiots with noise cancelling headphones that you can sit behind shouting at the top of your voice. However too many dog owners on here seem to want to excuse antisocial behaviour because dogs are involved
No one's excused the behaviour.....
when we all know that’s absolute bollox and that a well trained obedient dog is very much the outlier
Always surprised how well trained most dogs in Germany compared to the UK. In town you'll often see dogs off the lead running alongside their Herrli (owner), waiting at traffic lights and being generally well behaved.
Not sure if it's partly because in Germany you still pay a dog tax and as such people take ownership more seriously. Everyone I know in Germany with a dog took it to puppy training classes.
Amongst my extended family over half my cousins have dogs (25 cousins just on my mother's side) and only one of them is "trained" to the point it does what you tell it (although the owner is a dog walker and behaviour coach).
Speaking as a dogger
TMI
However too many dog owners on here seem to want to excuse antisocial behaviour because dogs are involved
Too many? Not one has.
Whilst out jogging a stupid little dog was barking and nipping at my heels "oh it's the high Viz" pipes up the owner, so I bent down and shouted right in it's face - it didn't bother me one bit when I passed them again later, I felt like a right bell end though but it looked like all it needed was some discipline 😀
My observation is that seriously bad dog owners are in the minority. But then again, the number of not awful but also not very good dog owners seems to be quite large. Their dogs don’t savage you or kill livestock… but loads of owners let their dogs bark, approach and scare little kids, run off leads in nature reserves or beaches, etc. Not all dogs and owners will do all of those things and some owners attempt to control unruly barky dogs and fail. In the end though, the combined impact of all these dogs is not insignificant.
This country has a dog fetish and there is nothing a normal person can do about it.
I'll have to remember this for the next car thread where people are asserting that nothing else gets such special treatment.
So because you’ve been bitten once you’ve leapt to a whole host of bollox generalisations and assumptions and managed to label most dogs and owners as savages / scum. That says more about you than anyone else.
Do you ever post anything positive? Literally your entire output on this forum is having a pop at people. Have you considered Pistonheads instead?
GF and I got chased by two massive Maremma Sheep dogs for 100m or so the other day….. Bearing their teeth. Was a bit scary. Did nothing for my Z2 training. Squirted my water bottle at them and fortunately they backed off.
No idea what we else we could do…. There were another two in the adjacent field trotting over, too. No owner around for miles.
When dogging goes very wrong 🙃
Anyway.
We've had this discussion a hundred times over. Some dog owners are responsible, clean up after their pets, put effort into exercise and training. Other dog owners vary between overly-defensive "my fur-baby has never done that before" and outright self-centred c***s. Which is the minority or majority is likely subjective and influenced by confirmation bias, and not really relevant in any case.
The bottom line though is that people trump dogs (and cars). If you're a dog owner and your attitude is "oh, he's only being friendly" or "she doesn't like hi-vis" then this is a You problem. I love dogs, I think they're ace, but out for a walk in clean-on-this-morning trousers I don't particularly want to be covered in muddy paws and slobber. This should not be considered an outlandish request.
Whilst out jogging a stupid little dog was barking and nipping at my heels “oh it’s the high Viz” pipes up the owner, so I bent down and shouted right in it’s face – it didn’t bother me one bit when I passed them again later, I felt like a right bell end though but it looked like all it needed was some discipline 😀
I have done exactly that. The woman actually said thanks to me 😀
I love dogs, I think they’re ace, but out for a walk in clean-on-this-morning trousers I don’t particularly want to be covered in muddy paws and slobber. This should not be considered an outlandish request.
To be fair i feel much the same when my bloody dog decides a jolly good humping is just what i need*.
*Only me and the dog trainer and occasionally my partner are singled out for this honour. She adores people but generally just plonks her arse on the ground and expects attention.
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Currently in Minor Injuries having been bitten by a dog on the way to work. Calf bite, puncture wounds and swelling so they wanted to look at it and check it over.3 dogs (one large, two medium) ran at me all off the lead whilst cycle commuting. No idea which one bit me. Owners didn’t apologise, said I was cycling too fast and walked off.
It was always going to happen quite frankly. The amount of dogs that run at me and almost bite when I’m cycling – one was always going to find my leg eventually.
I’m beyond anger – what’s the point. This country has a dog fetish and there is nothing a normal person can do about it.
Im sure it will happen again.
Was it the same pack of dog as last time?
@thisisnotaspoon fetishist!
I don't come here to be kink shamed.
Besides, I'm reliably informed that the pups are very well behaved at T_G. Although I'm not sure the handlers training methods are RSPCA approved.........
Not one dog off a lead running free that you had to slow for?
Of course we had to slow down to pass dogs that were off a lead. And some horses. And some families with kids.
That's not a problem. That's sharing space with more vulnerable users.
I'm not sure it's the dog owners who have the issue with entitlement.
I think we are at cross purposes a bit. apologies for not being clear
Dog owners have a legal duty to keep their dogs under control at all times. Variously defined in different circumstances and parts of the UK
If yo have to slow down to avoid them when cycling legally they are not under control. I'm not meaning just passing a group of walkers- of course you slow then and use a bell as I always do - I'm talking about the dogs that are not under control thus causing you to brake more than you would just to pass a group of walkers. I'm talking about those dogs on extending leads runnning around causing you to brake hard to avoid them
Dogs being a pain has just become normalized
If yo have to slow down to avoid them when cycling legally they are not under control.
Your talking about children or horses, I'm not 100% sure which
children and horses have priority over cyclists. Dogs do not. thats the legal situation. 🙂
children and horses have priority over cyclists. Dogs do not. thats the legal situation.
I tend to ignore the legal situation and work on the basis that if a dog and their owner are out enjoying the same space as me, I'll slow down so I don't affect their enjoyment. Slowing down doesn't affect mine.
That obviously doesn't apply if a dog is being aggressive and intimidating.
As above - I was meaning having to slow more than you would just to pass a person. (edit - because the dog is not under control as is the owners legal responsibility.)
I don’t come here to be kink shamed.
Sorry. Where do you usually go?
Sounds like another speeding cyclist not in control their speed. Typical entitled cyclists, a majority don’t understand that they cause issues for non cyclists.
Sorry. Where do you usually go?
Bold of you to presume I'm the sub
Having a nation of responsible dog owners would deprive some of you of one more string in your bow of bitching; it clearly brings you joy to piss and moan all over the forums like a FB community group 'top contributor'.
It would be unfair to deny you the simple pleasure of making everyone else miserable.
May or may not be sarcasm.
Having a nation of responsible dog owners would deprive some of you of one more string in your bow of bitching; it clearly brings you joy to piss and moan all over the forums like a FB community group ‘top contributor’.
It would be unfair to deny you the simple pleasure of making everyone else miserable.
May or may not be sarcasm.
The OP has form with dog "attacks", I recon he's a butcher on his way to work....
The OP has form with dog “attacks”, I recon he’s a butcher on his way to work….
Maybe the dog knew this and thought "I'll give him something to moan about..."
Ok so last post on this. Had a chance to calm down and am feeling a bit shaky. It was a big dog and could have really hurt me. Unfortunately I'll probably be slightly nervous around dogs now for a while and that's the most annoying thing as their actions (or lack of) will have a direct impact on me. The reason it didn't take any more chunks out of me was that it was actually probably more of a reflex action/peer group pressure/[playful dog. There were 3 dogs and they saw me from about 200 yards away (I didn't surprise them}. One of them tore towards me and the other two followed living their best life - when they got to me it was all jumping, snapping, barking and one of them nipped me. Then they lost interest and tore off somewhere else {this was all off-road on the South Downs). To be honest if the owners had apologised instead of denying I had even been bitten despite the blood then the whole thing would have been if not amicable then a lot better.
As for that idiot commenting 'I've got form' I'm not sure what that actually means but yes I've been attacked by a dog on my commute before though it didn't bite me - That was actually more scary as that was a proper nasty dog unlike this one. Again the owner blamed me for basically riding a bike where she wanted to walk her dog.
Anyway that was my day and contrary to another lame poster somewhere on the first page, I really wish it hadn't turned out like that - I was not 'enjoying it too much' The first 23km of my commute was great though.
The End
Heal soon.
Thanks Drac.
Ok so last post on this. Had a chance to calm down and am feeling a bit shaky. It was a big dog and could have really hurt me. Unfortunately I’ll probably be slightly nervous around dogs now for a while and that’s the most annoying thing as their actions (or lack of) will have a direct impact on me.
I think its very understandable to feel that way. I also don't understand the need at all for the piss taking. I hope your injury heals and more importantly i hope you can get past the nervousness, i have been there and its not pleasant.
But please do report it,or ot goes under the radar and nothing can be done. I won't be as naive to think your report alone will amount to much but if its on record the next person to report it will have corroboration atleast.
I love dogs but that sort of behaviour proper pisses me off. Report them and heal up. I do appreciate a stubborn dog though. Last night I had to stop for an old bulldog that was simply chilling out in the middle of the path. The owners other two dogs were obediently sat by her side. The bully clearly did not give a shit. Gave me a great opportunity to stop, chat to a friendly, if somewhat mortified lady and pet a lovely curmudgeon of an old dog. Couldn’t give a shit about the legalities. It was a nice distraction after a crap day at work.
My aunt (now deceased) had a little dog that we would occasionally look after when she was away or on holiday.
Stupid yappy thing, not much bigger than a salad bowl, but it would take off and try to attack any postman on a bike or, embarrassingly, any black person regardless of whether they were on a bike or not. RIP Jake, you stupid dick.
My dog is a bit of a dickhead tbh. I keep him on the lead when out. Trained him to sit, wait and recall and then he randomly just stopped responding. Having his balls cut off this Friday and then back to rigorous training once he’s healed. The pesky fool.
Stupid yappy thing, not much bigger than a salad bowl
Having a nation of responsible dog owners would deprive some of you of one more string in your bow of bitching
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Dog owner perchance?