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I’m an institutionalised ex Squaddie. On kit checks and locker inspections it’s always laid out as knife, fork, spoon. Packing lists for exercises and courses always just say ‘KFS’. These things stick with you.

I've always seen and used KFS without thinking why, presumably as the son of an ex serviceman 🤔


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:02 pm
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If you need a mnemonic to remember which order the cutlery goes in a drawer, something somewhere has gone very badly wrong with the universe.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:05 pm
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...and KFS is useful to remember in the services since in the requirement for emergency weaponry then that is also the order of effectiveness.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:15 pm
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If you need a mnemonic to remember which order the cutlery goes in a drawer, something somewhere has gone very badly wrong with the universe.

Its a simple abbreviation not a mnemonic 😛 and I don't "need" it, because I do it automatically. If you think that has upset the space time continuum you'd freak out when you see how I fold my t-shirts or iron a shirt!

I was a junior soldier at an army apprentice college for the impressionable years of 16 to 18 and served for another 22 years after that. It has left it's mark, KFS is the least of it.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:24 pm
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So.... about teaspoons 😹


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:36 pm
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Mmmmm I thought my wife worked apparently she's wifing around all over the place.

The dreaded hidey tidy. Where things are tidied but who knows where.
We've got a drawer full of tea towels, like can barely open full, OH keeps batteries in there but finds it hard to open so we have the same tea towels on rotation and new batteries bought on special even though we need AAA and they're AA, that'll be fine.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 7:24 am
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I'll just drop this little nugget...

My cutlery sits parallel to the draw front. Knives forks spoons teaspoons front to back.

Ergonomics innit.

I will never learn that grabbing a pair of socks and leaving house doesn't actually mean they're two matching socks... Yet if i put the brown sauce back in the cupboard in the wrong place....


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 7:46 am
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IT’S.

A.

DRAWER.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:21 am
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God damn it i know that aswell.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:28 am
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As well. Two words.

Well this thread has taken a turn for the weird. Who knew cutlery organisation could be such a hot topic?


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:33 am
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Knife fork spoon? Are you mad!

Fork knife spoon obviously as that is the order you put them down on the table.

That way lies madness.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:52 am
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Perchy i am disappointed in you.... you are no longer on my fantasy pub guest list as its obvious you wouldn't place your pint on the supplied beer mat.

This thread is laying bare the true singletrack world


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:57 am
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Knife fork spoon? Are you mad!

Absolutely - it means the first thing you do on picking up your cutlery to lay it on the table is cross hands/swap over. I am yet to see a Knife > Fork > Spoon drawer in real life.

Another pet hate about cutlery are the big containers with all the forks pointing tine up in canteens/buffet restaurants etc - the thought of all those other hands being all over the cutlery I pick out is revolting. 😱


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:22 am
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We have one of THESE in the drawer. It has little icons on it to tell you what goes where for KFS-TS. Except the icons are at the top of the slot, not at the bottom where you actually grab the thing from. And the KFS heads are all covered so you can't see what they are easily. The number of times I go the grab a spoon and end up with a fork does my nut in! The other 3 open compartments are a free for all of chaos in comparison. But, the wife chose it and insists it's pefect so I guess I'm going to have to live with it.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:41 am
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Oh and to answer the OP - remebering to add a landing strip of loo roll before going to the toilet. Stops all the skids, but I never remember until it's too late.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:43 am
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That looks like the most pointlessly over-designed piece of shit that Joseph Joseph have ever designed since the last piece of pointlessly over-designed piece of shit they designed.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:44 am
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remebering to add a landing strip of loo roll..

Oh don't be ridiculous (and the previous £26 drawer thing, jeez)


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:47 am
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The use of common sense and reasoning within any “discussions” with my other half…. you would think after 35 years i would have worked that out…

And I thought it was just me! Logic? Reason? Science even? Nah. Forgetabaatit....

We do the hidey stuff away too. I maintain it's just geography i.e. same stuff different place. Not helped by her not remembering anything/anywhere/anytime re: tidying events and going Defcon 1 defensive/shouty at the merest 'have you seen my pliers that I left on the side in 1972?'...🙃


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 9:54 am
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I am yet to see a Knife > Fork > Spoon drawer in real life

I could go down and take a photo of ours which is nominally laid out in that fashion, but I think it's so disorganised I think it would cause many people on this thread to have a stroke.

So…. about teaspoons

At the front, of course.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:02 am
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Who knew cutlery organisation could be such a hot topic?

Lockdown innit.

That cutlery organiser linked up there that hides whether things are K, F or S is the worst bit of design I've seen for some time.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:02 am
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Also, I'd confidently assert that the correct order is (L-R) little spoons, big spoons, forks, knives, misc items.

The misc items being sporks and kiddie bits and bobs.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:05 am
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Long time reader, irregular poster here but thought I'd add to the cutlery debate, albeit off the OPs topic.

I'm with @chakaping - spoons, forks, knives, miscellaneous - however - teaspoons live in a mug near the kettle/tea bags/coffee to aid hot drink making in the same place.

I believe there are 6 variations for the KFS, SFK etc so perhaps a poll might be useful (on a different thread of course)

Back to OP topic, I never learn not to mop up drips/overflows/condensation on the hob whilst cooking using kitchen towel. I always edge too close to the flame and the paper ends up catching - every time.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:13 am
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Expecting the family to follow my dishwasher loading system.
I live in hope.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:14 am
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Keep forgetting that i shoud never ask this question "have you seen the **"

Answer is always "i suppose you want me to get up and look for it"

No if that was the case i would have said "can ypu get up and look for the **"

Christ its not complicated a simple yes or no is enough...


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 10:14 am
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If the bath is so hot you can barely keep your feet in. Don’t sit down.

A monkey bath.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 11:49 am
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jca
…and KFS is useful to remember in the services since in the requirement for emergency weaponry then that is also the order of effectiveness.

But the spoon would hurt more.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 11:58 am
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That looks like the most pointlessly over-designed piece of shit that Joseph Joseph have ever designed since the last piece of pointlessly over-designed piece of shit they designed.

To be fair, they make some pretty nice stuff and I'm a fan. But they also make some poorly thought out stuff that is solving problems that don't exist. A lot of the products seem to be for the sake of it and to make money. But, from a manufacturing point of view, they really do design it to make the most out of simple moulding tool designs and are competing against the generic cheap flimsy poundland type stuff.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 12:04 pm
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To be fair, they make some pretty nice stuff and I’m a fan.

I agree, some of their stuff is quite pleasant to look at

But they also make some poorly thought out stuff that is solving problems that don’t exist.

100% agreed

A lot of the products seem to be for the sake of it and to make money

100% agreed

They are the Dyson of kitchen utensils.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 12:09 pm
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But the spoon would hurt more.

because it's dull? What a twit!


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 12:16 pm
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But only for cutting your heart out.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 12:45 pm
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perhaps a poll might be useful (on a different thread of course)

Bin dun. Well, previous thread, not a poll.

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/key-question-of-our-age/


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 12:55 pm
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You're not a mod anymore cougar.

Fork knife spoon obviously as that is the order you put them down on the table.

You need a better butler.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 1:44 pm
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I'm aware of this, yes. It was relevant to the discussion.

This isn't going to be a recurring theme every time I try and post something vaguely helpful, is it? It's going to get old fast if it is.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 1:58 pm
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This isn’t going to be a recurring theme every time I try and post something vaguely helpful, is it?

Why yes...yes it is.

It’s going to get old fast if it is.

Just like everything else round here


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 2:03 pm
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Laying the table, cutlery designations, acronyms for utensils. How am I posting on a forum when it appears to be in the Edwardian era? I’m beginning to get very concerned about some of you.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 7:54 pm
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Fair enough. Point stands though, it’s still barking.

Am I back in the Mornington Crescent thread?

And a round of applause for@ChrisL for the Robin Hood reference.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 8:23 pm
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Tooting Bec.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 11:51 pm
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SKKFS with t spoons across the bottom, veg peeler and scissors chucked in randomly.
I'd post a picture but I fear I'd get a ban.


 
Posted : 25/02/2021 8:05 am
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