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[Closed] Legal advice needed. Retards throwing allegations about.

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 Smee
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I have just received a phonecall from the driving school I used to work for. Apparently some of my ex-pupils that I had independently of that school have phoned up that school and are saying that I owe them money.

Pupil 1 - had a shed load of driving lessons and paid for them at the beginning of each one - claims that I owe them some cash - a small amount.
Pupil 2 - referred to me by pupil 1, had a fair number of lessons - paid for and used a block of 10, then paid for them at the start of each lesson - now claims that I owe them £160.
Pupil 3 - again referred by pupil 1, took a block booking of 10 lessons for £210, used 4.5hrs and has been refunded the amount that they were owed. They now say that I owe them £260.

What would you do in this situation?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:31 pm
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You have receipts/invoices, right?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:33 pm
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not use the term retard?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:33 pm
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miketually - yes of course.

davidrussel - helpful.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:35 pm
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How can they possibly think you owe them more than they paid you? (pupil 3?)


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:36 pm
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Did you tell them you were the best driver in the world & now they've found out otherwise, & want their money back?

just a thought


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:37 pm
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Why call them retards?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:37 pm
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WTF are the old employer getting involved for if it's nowt to do with them?

Besides if you have receipts, then I'd send the "retards" copies and say F*** off.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:38 pm
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Just ignore them.....and the pupils asking for money.

Ho ho ho.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:39 pm
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Just wanting to see where this thread ends up...


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:40 pm
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Definition of retards. http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Retard 😉


 
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So you used to work for driving school x then gave pupil 1 some lessons, independently of x, and pupil 1 gave you money in exchange. But never gave any money to school x.

Then 1 recommended you to 2 and 3 and again money was exchanged between you and the pupils in exchange for lessons independently of scxhool x.

WTF does it have to do with school x then? The contracts were between you and the pupils, not school x and the pupils

Sounds like x is trying it on to me


 
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WTF does it have to do with school x then? The contracts were between you and the pupils, not school x and the pupils

I suspect the car was all liveried up for school x & they think that it was official school x work


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:43 pm
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uplink - you suspect wrong.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:45 pm
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But then the dispute wwould be between school x and the op and nowt to do with 1 2 or 3?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:45 pm
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uplink - you suspect wrong

so, how did they know what school to complain to?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:46 pm
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because it was well known that i did work with that company too. would often arrive in the street, change boxes over then go knock at the door.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:48 pm
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as a 'by the by' my contract strictly forbids me going into competition with my employer in my spare time - I presume most do


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:49 pm
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driving school franchises rarely include this clause - mine didnt.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:50 pm
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In that case - I'd expect the school to wash their hands of it & point them in your direction for any refunds due


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:51 pm
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What happened to the new stress-free Goan? You come on here asking for advice yet your responses already have a distinct tone of aggression in them.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:54 pm
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m_f - I would happily tear them all a new arsehole. But, I do concede that a more healthy response would be to laugh at their stupidity.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 2:57 pm
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davidrussel - helpful.

Thanks, glad I could help


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:17 pm
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I do concede that a more healthy response would be to laugh at their stupidity.

Do you want us to laugh at their stupidity or do you think that you should relax and laugh at it?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:17 pm
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M_F - I suppose both would be the best option.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:19 pm
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I'd invite them to the nearest zoo to resolve the matter.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:19 pm
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Retards throwing allegations about

LOL


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:23 pm
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I still can't understand [or work out the probability] why 3 separate ex private pupils would suddenly call up a driving school you used to work for demanding money - maybe it was a conference call?

There's more to this than already posted, that's for sure


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:24 pm
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Obvious questions - do you actually owe any of them [i]any[/i] money, and do receipts etc stack up?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:26 pm
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uplink - i know - it doesn't make sense does it. there really is no more to this story.

IDave - no i dont owe then any money and my records do stack up.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:27 pm
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There's more to this than already posted, that's for sure

Well, from the OP it's easy to deduce they all know each other. Therefore they are probably in cahoots with each other and it's a scam.

Personally, I'd call their bluff. Copy the reciepts, and write each a letter saying you owe them zich, give them the evidence, and tell them to swivel.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:28 pm
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PP - that's what I intend to do if they continue with their BS.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:29 pm
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Seems a bit odd that three people, although linked, are all saying you owe them money. But as others have said your receipts will show that you did the work you were paid for. You did keep receipts didn't you? If not then I think the 'retard' title may be pinned on you.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:35 pm
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I wouldnt do anything until they contact you directly first. Unless they already have your details directly (unlikely if they have contacted school x) I would ask school x not to pass on your details. If itsv a scam they will probably give up if it requires effort tomtrack you down.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:36 pm
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GaryM - He's already stated he has the reciepts. Are you just stirring or trying to sound clever? Because it's not working you know... 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:38 pm
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PeterPoddy why is it stirring, it was a simple enough question and I apologise that I didn't read every post. If he has the receipts then whats the drama about.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:41 pm
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[i]If he has the receipts then whats the drama about. [/i]

It's Goan, he likes drama.


 
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[i]Personally, I'd call their bluff. Copy the reciepts, and write each a letter saying you owe them zich, give them the evidence, and tell them to swivel. [/i]

Plus an additional invoice for the time taken to do the copying, posting etc 😈


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:47 pm
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The sooner the use of the term 'retard' becomes socially unacceptable, the better in my view. Everybody knows it refers originally to people with (perceived) mental shortcomings, through no fault of their own. It should be in the box with flid and spacca.
Just my opinion.
I'm guessing one of the youths has got the maths wrong and the others have jumped on board without checking - behaviour becoming all the more common it seems.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:48 pm
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boxelder - but that definition would appear to fit these people perfectly.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:50 pm
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The only thing you can do is supply the receipts and be done with it.

Bosh - job done.

Good luck sorting it.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:52 pm
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Are you sure they aren't after compensation for you perhaps being a cr@p instructer?

I have just received a phonecall from the driving school I used to work for

Presumably there is a good reason why you no longer work for them?

Pupil 1 - had a shed load of driving lessons

Why so many lessons or were they just a "retard"

Pupil 2 - referred to me by pupil 1, had a fair number of lessons

As above but also why did pupil 1 recomend you if they were taking so long to pass.

Pupil 3 - again referred by pupil 1, took a block booking of 10 lessons for £210, used 4.5hrs

So they cancelled after 4.5 lessons. What happened for them/you to end a lesson half way through? Was there an incident on a roundabout due to poor driving/oil spillage!

I'm sure there are perfect explanations for these 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:54 pm
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Watch yourself Drac, you'll have pp on your case.

[i]So they cancelled after 4.5 lessons[/i]

Yeh goan reached his annual million driving miles during the lesson and sent the guy packing.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:55 pm
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Don't do anything until they contact you directly, then send them copies of the receipts. Done.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:55 pm
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Check a proper dictionary.
As I said, just my opinion, but it's one of those words that doesn't make you look great - but why bother?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 3:56 pm
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And can you bill them for our time as well while you're at it?

Put it down as "STW Internet Consultancy fees" or something 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:00 pm
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Why would they give you a receipt? I don't give people a receipt when I've paid them to do something, they give me one. Apart from pupil 3 who had a refund, what are you talking about?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:04 pm
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[i]Why would they give you a receipt?[/i]

Eh they don't, you give them one and obvioulsy keep a copy. You're not pupil one are you?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:07 pm
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Bollocks.

I'm not pupil 1, but I might get in the queue. I've obviously got potential.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:09 pm
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Senior moment?

d'ya see what I did there


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:12 pm
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Why did one quit half way through a lesson?
If you have all the receipts and told the tax man/delared the earnings how could this be an issue?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:13 pm
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The sooner the use of the term 'retard' .....It should be in the box with flid and spacca.

The non-pc-but-still-funny box IMO.

That's the nature of insults. Somone always finds them insulting. 😉


 
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I think what senior means is what proof is there that they actually got lessons
There's obviously receipts for the money but I don't know how the lessons work - do they sign a book or something when they've had the lesson?


 
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Senior moment?

d'ya see what I did there

I do now one of the kids has explained it to me 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:15 pm
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No he doesn't mean that at all, he was just being a re****.


 
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PeterPoddy why is it stirring, it was a simple enough question and I apologise that I didn't read every post. If he has the receipts then whats the drama about.

Please note 'wink' on my post. 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:15 pm
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ah I don't see 'winks' etc on my laptop in the office.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:17 pm
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Ahh. I see.
;o) <--- A special one you can see!


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:18 pm
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Are you calling me a re**** ?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:23 pm
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I hope they are not in cahoots enough with each other/wierd enough to google the name of their old driving instuctor, find his umpteenth internet login (I seem to remember goan's real name being mentioned many times on the old forum), and then find him calling them retards.

That will really help then.

Oh and yes I would have thought your well kept receipts and accounts should knock any legal proceedings straight out of the park. Strange why people would bother trying something like that on really.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:25 pm
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[i]Are you calling me a re**** ? [/i]

Yeh, want a fight.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:27 pm
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Yeah any time, be careful though, I'm quite friendly with the SAS.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:30 pm
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I'm quite busy at the moment so maybe next year some time, spring is my favourite fighting season. I'm not scared or anything, just busy.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:31 pm
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Well I am busy too, I have a colouring book I haven't finished yet.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 4:37 pm
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Contacted all three and they deny all knowledge. Interesting.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 6:10 pm
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Previous employer a bit miffed at you starting up on your own then ?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 6:18 pm
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Soma_rich - no idea.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 6:20 pm
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just beacuse they have caused you stress you can't call them retards...
2 MONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 7:00 pm
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Contacted all three and they deny all knowledge. Interesting.

not so sure about the end of that sentence - sort of maybe/maybe not

are you sure you're not testing a pilot for some of new daytime twitter based on the dramatic minutiae of the life of a reformed angry person crossed with a reversed sort of life on mars / alternative reality?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 7:19 pm
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antigee - ****ter is not a part of my life.


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 7:21 pm
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super there tazzy - have STW been in touch for when they do a tabloid version?


 
Posted : 16/12/2009 7:56 pm
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junkyard- fank you very much guv'nor 😀


 
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