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anyone watching this? he's a lucky boy!
have you seen the Audi advert that they're showing on Eurosport during the breaks? some irony in him bigging himself up 🙂
The car came very close to going over the barrier. I hope the marshalls and photographers on the service road behid are okay, there looked to be a lot of debris heading their way.
they just commented that a few got 'showered' with debris but none were hurt
Definite brown trouser moment. Will mcnish help them out with the dry cleaning bills?
Nasty accident which could have been a lot worse! Debris everywhere and an airborne wheel 🙄
Ouch! Guys on the service road were VERY lucky!
That car was actually over the barrier. God knows how it ended up back trackside. Thankfully it did though.
Even the Audi pit garage looks a little shocked that he managed to walk away from it 8)
Hope everyone was okay, n'all that, but I did find it amusing to see the photographer at the bottom of the screen being chased down the road by a stray wheel.
I look forward to some good photos!
What a complete and utter cretin he was for attempting a manoeuvre like that.
How did that not go over the barrier?? Pause the footage at 12seconds and it's pretty amazing! Look at that guy hiding behind the motorbike 😆 !
Should be some cracking shots from those photgraphers... if they kept their nerve that is! 😯
What a complete and utter cretin he was for attempting a manoeuvre like that.
No, the number 58 Ferrari is 2 classes below the Audi, takes over 30 seconds longer to do a lap and should not have closed the door on McNish, thats one of the rules.
Yes - look in front and behind the ferrari. Where was McNish going to go? Stupid manoeuvre to try and pull off. The other audi thought better of it.
Maybe, just maybe up the inside of the Ferrari and then around the out side of the Porsche(s), at least that's what it looks like he's trying to do to me.
loath as I am to agree with SBZ 😉 looked a bit dubious to me - which audi was directly behind the ferrari in the corners prior to this ? If it was the "other" one, then I'd def put the blame on the geezer wot crashed
lucky escape for all, but I did find amusing the photographer being chased down the hill by the escaped wheel
audi carring way to much speed would never make the corner anyway even on a good day think he was getting a bit carried away with it all to early in the race (i could be wrong 🙄 )
christ, that tyre comes down on someone and they are dead. very lucky indeed
Saw it live on Eurosport HD,
They reckoned he could see the Porsche in front of his team mate and must have thought he just had the 1 car to pass ...
VERY lucky that no one got hurt , def brown trouser moment for some of the photographers I reckon
Then watched the Dauphine .. Bradley doing well 🙂
mikey74 - MemberHope everyone was okay, n'all that, but I did find it amusing to see the photographer at the bottom of the screen being chased down the road by a stray wheel.
Good spot, that's excellent
another audi, not looking too nice 🙁
Clipping a ferrari again
jees, that was at full tilt too
oooof
sounds like he is alright, and thinking about it i guess the cars might have powder extinguishers, but it looked like the car had burnt and bits of ash around it.
the two videos don't look good though,
any videos of the latest one? that stretch down to indianapolis is a bloomin' fast place to go off!
cracking photo on Reuters
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SBZ/Scardypants, have you ever raced anything?
I think you should have a few seasons at a top level motorsport before making armchair comments on drivers actions.
If you watch the video the Ferrari did move to the apex, whilst the Audi was alongside, in fact it was past the Ferrari.
VR - Ferrari driver would be unsighted given that they'd just came over the brow of a hill. Audi number 1 car thought better of making the overtake there. McNish would have struggled to make the car stick on the following left hander. Given that it was the first hour of a 24hr race it was a dumb maneouvre to attempt, risk/reward ratio was not favourable.
McNish has a massive chip on his shoulder after making a fool of himself in Formula 1. Anyone taking stupid risks like that in the 1st hour of the race is a complete idiot.
That gravel trap was effective wasn't it 😆
That looked a perfectly acceptable gap; I've seen many manoeuvres like that at sportscar events. You won't see stuff like that at F1 as it's too sanitised. The Ferrari driver shut the door on him; a racing mistake.
Glad to see no-one significantly hurt.
That looked a perfectly acceptable gap; I've seen many manoeuvres like that at sportscar events. You won't see stuff like that at F1 as it's too sanitised. The Ferrari driver shut the door on him; a racing mistake.
Congratulations, it must be nice to be such an expert.
Along with all the others criticising his driving....... 🙄
Gachet - MemberMcNish has a massive chip on his shoulder after making a fool of himself in Formula 1. Anyone taking stupid risks like that in the 1st hour of the race is a complete idiot.
you should tell him this, he is just an endurace rookie after all......... oh, wait... 🙄
you should tell him this, he is just an endurace rookie after all......... oh, wait...
Aren't you a smartarse. It's a miracle nobody at trackside was killed.
McNish would have struggled to make the car stick on the following left hander.
You make that assertion based on your extensive experience of high-level motorsport?
Congratulations, it must be nice to be such an expert
Along with all the others criticising his driving.......
you should tell him this, he is just an endurace rookie after all......... oh, wait...
Aren't you a smartarse. It's a miracle nobody at trackside was killed.
You make that assertion based on your extensive experience of high-level motorsport?
Jesus **** me, can we have a thread on here without the ****ing knob waving? Wind your necks in, FFS.
Drivers are briefed to stick to the racing line and it is the responsibility of the faster driver to ensure that any manoeuvre is safe. McNish failed to do this.
I think the Audi driver who said it was a racing error and effectively sh1t happens, no-one's fault is probably in a better position to comment than anyone on here. It was his car that got wrecked, after all.
Gonna need a truck load of gaffer tape to put that car back together...
"The Ferrari closed the door, Allan had no chance whatsoever. He went off very quickly, but luckily managed to get out of the car unharmed," said Audi motorsport head Wolfgang Ullrich.
from bbc
I've looked at that a good few times now, bit of a "racing incident" if you ask me. At first I was thinking what the hell was the Ferrari driver doing getting in the way of the faster car, then it looked like McNish just barrelled into him, almost fogetting to brake/steer from another angle.
Fact of the matter is though, the Audi is a damn sight quicker car, and was approaching at a rate of knots. McNish was probably in the Ferrari's blind spot when the Ferrari driver checked his mirror, and before he could check again the Audi was there, on the apex of the corner too.
24 Hour racing is a great spectacle, and obviously a long standing tradition, but generally you see some much more horrific accidents because of the disparity in the machinery than you do in most other forms of (much more closely contested) motor racing. Reading stories of the old GrpC Jag's and Merc's of the 1980's barreling down the old Mulsanne straight at 250mph, trying to dodge Porsche 911's littered all over the place doing a mere 180mph, makes me wince quite frankly! 70mph is a hell of a difference if you're doing 70 when another car is stationary. When you're doing almost 4 times that already, the consequences don't bear thinking about.
Anyway, like I said, racing incident. Both drivers walked away thankfully and will live to race another day. What's shocking is the lack of effectiveness of the gravel trap (they work well for open wheeled cars like F1, but cars with enormous flat bottoms like LeMans cars just skid over the top), and the fact nobody stood behind the barrier got hurt! Until the car hit the barrier and came to a halt, looked for all the world like it was going to mince a whole load of marshalls and camera men!
first viewing it looks obvious that the ferrari should have got out of the way, which is undoubtedly true. from all angles though it doesn't look like he'd have had any chance of getting past those porsches in front and staying on the track/avoiding them. 😕
reckon he got a bit carried away and should be blaming himself for an avoidable accident, tbf.
LOL, we're disqualified from even having an opinion ?SBZ/Scardypants, have you ever raced anything?I think you should have a few seasons at a top level motorsport before making armchair comments on drivers actions.
I'm just guessing, but maybe the minimum standard of motorsport we'd have to engage in to be valid is perhaps exactly the level you've competed at ?
WHy wouldn't the Ferrari move to the apex if he was thinking "no ****er's going to try to pass here, it'd be stoopid"If you watch the video the Ferrari did move to the apex, whilst the Audi was alongside, in fact it was past the Ferrari.
Disagree ? Tell it to the driver of the other audi who thought better of overtaking at that point 😉
looks like a racing incident to me. mcnish takes the other audi and attempts to put the ferrari between them assuming the ferrari has seen them coming. unfortunately he hasn't and that is the result. people on the service road should nip off and put their lottery number on, its clearly their lucky day.
and the matey running down the service road being chased by the wheel is genius.
Have to agree with Scaredypants. The Ferrari was on the racing line for the corner and Im sure was concentrating on the Audi behind him and not what was behind that Audi. As previously stated and what is stated in all drivers briefings for endurance races is its the responsibility of the faster car to make the pass safely and of the slower car to stay to the racing line. So, although unfortunate, in my eyes it was a racing incident.
Im just wondering how many have actually sat in a GT car and tried to see out of the mirrors...?
there is a waved blue flag. so he should have been looking for faster cars passing him.
do really think the driver will be looking away from the apex to where the blue flag was being waved?
My point did come across all wrong.
What I meant was when you are racing, the decisions you make to overtake or not are made in a split second.
Nobody but Alan McNish knows if it was a correct move at the time or not. To me it looked perfectly possible and as others have pointed out a racing accident.
Heart-stopping incident, though. I've watched quite a few times now, and the thing that amazes me is how the car pauses on the top of the tyre wall, seems to pirouette, then drop back down onto the gravel. As above, the gravel trap didn't do very much, the car just skims across it like a teatray. As the Audi boss said, “To see that the cars are strong is good but that's not the way we like to demonstrate it”. A great demonstration of understatement, I think.
As previously stated and what is stated in all drivers briefings for endurance races is its the responsibility of the faster car to make the pass safely and of the slower car to stay to the racing line.
Just like sking or any sport the crazy f....er coming up the rear or trying to overtake needs to take responsibility for his actions, needs to count his blessings he's alive