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Latest poverty bashing YouGov poll is in!

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Should someone off work with Parkinson’s be allowed a television? Does a supermarket assistant deserve a hobby? YouGov put a range of expenses to the public to ask at what income level they believed each should be attainable. The results are eye-opening. The survey shows that 76% of Britons believe that everyone should be able to afford their utility bills, while 74% think they should have the means to eat a balanced diet – in effect, meaning that around a quarter of the public believe that people on out-of-work benefits shouldn’t be able to have electricity or a full complement of vitamins.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/08/britain-poor-people-leisure-victorian-workhouse


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:15 pm
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I think I'd find that a more disappointing outcome if it weren't an opinion piece and actually showed the questions asked.

At it is its just disappointing the guardian has gone the way of the express.

Very easy to construe the results of a survey anyway you like without the questions, just as its easy to manipulate the answers with clever questions.

25% of people don't think everyone should be able to afford to eat properly? Tosh. That 25% think you need to earn x to eat properly quite likely, and that that threshold number is significantly above the income of a large number of households, yeah entirely believable.

I suppose that would be Crap headline though.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:24 pm
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Or you could read the source before ranting.
> https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2023/08/02/what-should-living-standards-look-people-benefits- <


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:29 pm
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As 25% of the population are expected to vote for the Tories, then this poll could be pretty close to reality.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:31 pm
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Already covered on one of tbe other threads this morning.

Its a valid question as to how much taxpayers money should be spent supporting those unable to work. What the research is used for and/or to justify is the tricky bit.

There's a chunk of the UK population that doesn’t seem to understand that benefits need to be at a high enough level that people can house, feed and clothe themselves and their families, as well as do whatever is necessary, such as medical support, training and upskilling, including travel costs and access to the Internet nowadays, to enable people to become earning, tax paying members of society again.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:35 pm
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Utilities (i.e. electricity, gas, water)

I wonder how many of the 24% who think people on benefits shouldn't be able to pay for that actually think they shouldn't *have* to pay for that?

That a couple of % think only the wealthiest should be able to eat properly (pay bills etc) suggests one of three things:
the poll group was grossly skewed - hands up how many of you think *you* shouldn't be able to afford to eat properly
The poll had a significant amount of people whose answer in no way reflected their actual opinion so they simply gave the first (the order of the answers should be randomised to avoid 1,1,1...) or most controversial answer and those l should have been eliminated fairly quickly by any half competent statistician.
There was a significant misunderstanding of the questioning among a noticeable % of people.

including travel costs and access to the Internet nowadays,

Part of that is [older] people still see those things as a luxury


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 3:42 pm
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