[Closed] Land Roverists, look away now.....New Disco concept...

Seems about right.

perfect for middle England and the motorway

Must have been one last niche in the bellend market left to fill. Maybe the new Defender will be designed to fill the more rugged, non-'sporting' brief.

Rear end sort of ruins the look for me (Volvoesque) otherwise I quite like it. Not that I'd be able to afford one or actually buy one I could.

Not sure the new Defender will see that niche if the DC100 is anything to go by...

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Looks a bit Skoda Yeti to be honest.

It looks as if a skip has been dropped on it. Where's the headroom?

What are they going to do with all the left over Leyland Sherpa head and tail lamps, and Morris Marina door handles that they got left in a huge warehouse in the Midlands?

That DC100 looks a bit...
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Evoque estate.

I see low profile gangsta rims have become de rigeur for toffs/prats as well.

Surely it should be in white !

Proper cap end mobeele

Yeah, what molgrips said! Evoque with a bigger bum.

Yo is all sooooo not with the curve dudes, our market segment donut git muddy innit. Is all afters n looking weljel inTarn.

It's clearly crayoned by the guy who snapped his B2 when chalking the Evoke.

It was always a bit downmarket the Disco. Fitted rural Solicitors in check shirts admirably, but the true monied went for the up scaled Disco, the RR Sport.

I hate it.

The Disco (barring the Defender) is the only slightly utilitarian/comfy enough model left in the range now, the RR, RR Sport, Evoque & Freelander are all a bit too nice/posh/townified to be towing diggers and stuff about with, the Disco can still pull it off though, a bit like the old RR's - work in the week, play on the weekends, but still be smart enough for a posh do.

LR profits soaring though aren't they? So people must be buying them, just not the sort of people who use them for any off road/utility purposes. So many LR owners must be sooooo over spec'd. in terms of the offroad and towing capabilities of these trucks - why spend £70k on a RR when £20k of that could be in the 4wd system to just drive it around town?

Anyone any good with photoshop? Im intrigued to see if, as I suspect, it looks like a jacked up saab 9-5 estate?
Cover up the bottom half of the picture with your hand using the line that runs across the doors just below the windows as a guide!

No? Just me then?!!

So many LR owners must be sooooo over spec'd. in terms of the offroad and towing capabilities of these trucks - why spend £70k on a RR when £20k of that could be in the 4wd system to just drive it around town?

So everyone looks at you and knows you is minted like. The reason LR is making money is because they managed to hit the market for more money than sense and a desire to get the new one next year. So they have found the formula, sell ugly cars that cost loads to people with no taste.

I rather like it.

I'm always bewildered at the criticism of perceived buyers of vehicles: LR have in recent years become massively successful (since being owned by Tata it seems). Design and manufacture in the UK, and all we want to do is criticise the business for our perceptions of the buyers of its products.

Not everyone wants a hair-shirt vehicle. And not everyone needs to be off road all day long - I'd question how many critics are themselves.

Most amusing, though, is the suggestion that people who buy these very expensive cars have more money than sense. My guess is that for many of the buyers, it's precisely because they do have some sense that they have the money to buy these vehicles.

Oh, and the weird c-pillar aside, I suspect it will be successful.

Don't like it but then again I couldn't afford it. Safe to say they are not targeting the likes of me:-)

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Not everyone wants a hair-shirt vehicle. And not everyone needs to be off road all day long - I'd question how many critics are themselves.

Most amusing, though, is the suggestion that people who buy these very expensive cars have more money than sense. My guess is that for many of the buyers, it's precisely because they do have some sense that they have the money to buy these vehicles.

I'm not knocking LR they have made a great step forward, they have found a market segment that has enough money to run a huge 4x4 who have no actual need for any of the features that differentiate it from a 5 series etc.

On the cash to buy, I think it's more enough for the deposit and then finance the rest.

Would you say that tying up £60k in cash in a depreciating asset is a financially prudent thing to do? Or would financing it make more sense, and putting the other £55k to work elsewhere?

Genuine question, I imagine many people won't finance anything due to some sort of mental block/phobia, whereas those who are able to make money work for them would probably faint at the idea of buying such an asset with cash.

for warns74 (who has a point!)

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I get slated by my mates for liking the Evoque, not sure about this effort, a lot of overhang on the back for real 4x4ing but I guess its not really going to go off road.

I don't mind it looks Ok better than a box. It's not meant to be a true 4x4 any more hasn't ever really the Discovery although it was always reasonable capable the current ones aren't too bad either off road.

Not everyone wants a hair-shirt vehicle.

Efficient doens't mean bad to drive. Look at BMW. The problem with SUVs is that the size is always going to cost fuel, for no good reason.

To be honest LR are to be applauded (slightly) for the Evoque and this - the reason they look squashed is cos they are low, which should improve economy somewhat.

DezB's photoshopping makes it alarmingly clear...

http://sniffpetrol.com/2014/04/03/land-rover-accidentally-designs-saab/

I hope DezB has a proper e-crayon job, you are too good for the likes of us lot here. I know a few folks that would beg greatful of your skilz innit.
Jeanious. 😉

Thanks DezB, excellent work. That is far more accurate than I was expecting!! 🙂

Me too!

(Note - the 9-5 was not adjusted in any way to fit - it really is that similar!)

the 9-5 thing I thougth of that too when I first saw it, I used to have one and still think the middle generation is the best looking saloon ever. Handled like remenants of a diaretic blancmange though 😕

Looks like the Kim Kardashian of the car world ,Nice at the front but its all gone wrong at the rear.

PDI'd and drove the very first RR in town. First apprentice to attend a Rover training school and a few other milestones before quitting the motor trade!
Have a wee soft spot for them.
Biking buddy has a new one on order. He went self employed a few years ago and works 7 days a week, don't begrudge him buying one, it is one of his few pleasures in life( which could be short given family history!)
If I ever had the money I would buy one rather than any BM, Merc etc of similar price.....

It really is the LR Clitoris made a bit bigger. Doesn't do it for me...

Who signed it off?

It's gonna look proper pikey with white paint and 15" rims and boggo spec innit ...

I like it. Far more stylish than any German thing and will have the off-road capability even if the overwhelming majority of owners won't use it. But then you could say that about a lot of 'specialist' cars. What modern hot hatch owners use or are capable of using the performance potential of their cars let alone drivers of more serious machinery like M3s, 911 turbo's etc. the majority of owners won't actually own these cars. They'll be company cars or lease cars. If I could choose between one of these for a company car amongst a sea of similar boring euro-boxes I know what I'd choose. One of these vs. Q7 vs. X5 vs. X6 vs. ML vs. Toureg vs. Ceyenne, it's no contest. But as I use my own dosh for cars I'll aim my sights somewhat lower!

Just goes to show that even though we don't have a clue how to run a successful car company, we can still design and engineer them as well as anyone.

The new Defender:
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A Lada Niva:
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New Disco;
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Saab's ill fated new 9-5 estate:
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Land-Rover-Discovery-Vision-Concept-2014-revealed/

^^ I read that! not sure why but I did! it says it's got Lasers in it.

It's got frikin lasers in it!! 😆

the current ones aren't too bad either off road.

I like the design, but as an fairly recent ex-Disco owner, I'd take a lot of convincing about their build quality to buy back into their brand

EDIT - just saw it's got lasers!!! WHERE DO I SIGN..?

Not particularly keen on it.

Landrover obviously making plenty of money and it seems that their target market has changed.

The cars are still very capable, my Discovery 3 will perform better than my old Defender on certain terrain due to the electronic gadgetry. I think part of the appeal is what the cars are capable of even if 99% of it never gets used, if they started bringing out models which were not capable off road they may loose customers.

Don't think any models have used the Sherpa and Marina parts for some time.

Earlier post about something that can tow a digger during the week and be posh enough to go out for dinner at the weekend has to be a big thing. Must be plenty of folk needing this whether its work related or towing boats/horse boxes etc. I have an 8 year old Discovery 3. It has towed caravans and trailers with 3-4 ton of stone in it. Towed trailers of topsoil across our building site of a garden and mini diggers to play with! Seats 7 folk in reasonable comfort and when cleaned up has been used as a wedding car. Oh and great for throwing bikes in the back of!

matt_outandabout - Member

The new Defender:

A Lada Niva:

I would have the Lada Niva in an instant over Land Rover any day if they produce right hand drive version. 😀 I like simple industrial 4x4.

We 'sunk' a Niva in Ullswater, up to the roof. It was dragged out by tractor, we drilled a couple of holes in the footwell to drain the last few puddles, removed the air filter - and then drove it home that evening!

I am waiting for the new Defender - they are talking about making a pickup version which is going to be more competitive with the big Japanese vehicles... could tempt me (and I am starting to really dislike the L200 at the moment).

The Disco is not going to be an option for me though.

matt_outandabout - Member

We 'sunk' a Niva in Ullswater, up to the roof. It was dragged out by tractor, we drilled a couple of holes in the footwell to drain the last few puddles, removed the air filter - and then drove it home that evening!

There you go. Simple brute force will get it to work again. No computer needed. I like.

Capt. Kronos - Member

I am waiting for the new Defender - they are talking about making a pickup version which is going to be more competitive with the big Japanese vehicles

I don't think that will happen because they are in the "luxury" segment of the market, while most Japs 4x4 got their concept right from the start by making it truly utility. Then buyers of Japs 4x4 "upgrade" (modification) it to make it luxury. The Japs models are also more reliable.

Not nice. It looks like a sucked Locket.

I'm sure it'll change quite a bit for production, there's too much metal above the rear wheel and to my eyes it just doesn't have enough utility in it's design/ I also like the 4 round lights at night on the current discos, and thought it was a signature, but clearly not!

It's probably on 36" wheels(or something slightly smaller maybe)for the concept as well

It looks precisely like a cheap Australian Ford SUV:

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But, I'll reserve judgement on its off road capability until the real one arrives and I've driven it. Our lowly Freelander has rescued both a Nissan Patrol and a Toyota Prado, and behaved much better than several other 'real' 4wds thanks to its electronic trickery on our travels to the less-visited parts of Australia.

Lasers?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

Grill / front of the new Defender inspired by recent insurance company advertising?

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Ah the soon to be not australian cheap ford 🙂

Our lowly Freelander has rescued both a Nissan Patrol and a Toyota Prado, and behaved much better than several other 'real' 4wds thanks to its electronic trickery on our travels to the less-visited parts of Australia.

This is exactly the sort of thing the new one is not for, you'd have to spend ages washing it afterwards.

I like getting the Freelander serviced - it gets a wash then 😀 I very much doubt the D4 I'll hopefully replace it with will get any better treatment. Pretty much like my bikes, actually. Life's too short to clean something you're going to immediately get dirty again*

Pretty much all the body damage it's had has been sustained whilst unattended in car parks - I've pretty much given up caring now 🙁

*With the exception of driving in / near salt water - it gets washed to an anal level of detail then - Land Rovers rust enough as it is!