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As a thought experiment, what could I do with this land...
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-54915153.html
It says "pasture land" in the deets, but is there a definitive way to confirm its categorisation. And then, where are the rules stated for uses as per categorisation?
I'm not thinking of building on it, though presumably the fact there is already a building there means planning would be easier?
Its borders a really popular cycle path, so initial thoughts would be cycle shop, cafe, campsite etc. But wondered if farming it could provide an income, 2acres - too small?
Any thoughts welcome, like I say, I'm just kicking ideas round.
“The land is fully fenced. The land is suitable for a range of uses subject to necessary consent”
About covers it you can apply for application for permission.
Valuation is well in excess of the agricultural value, and a 2 acre field is going to be limited in appeal for farming. I’d imagine the stable building means it’s appealing as a pony paddock. Not an expert but I’d be surprised if you could get planning to convert the shed into a full commercial building.
Even if you could (and a big if) do you have utilities? Could be a very costly experience. Can’t see it being very feasible in all honesty.
You could feed a family of four from 2 acres of land if you got your finger out and done a bit of work.
Valuation wise, I'm assuming the "price" is reckoning on someone buying it with an aim to develop residential on it. That's partly why I asked the question about what type of land it is, what uses etc. If residential was out of the picture, it's probably more worth £20k.
Looks pretty useless even for a pony. Long, thin and on a slope. Would be OK for grazing but no good for riding in.
And way overpriced at 60k for such a small plot - that's speculative money by the owner who thinks you [i]may[/i] get planning for houses on it. And if they were in any way sure of that they'd have applied themselves and sold it for a lot, lot more!
If you were prepared to stick a static home on it and create a small-holding - you may get permission to build in roughly 10 years time. 🙂
Would there be anything preventing putting one of those pre-fab "garden office" type sheds on it? Use it as a remote garden?
In the back of my mind, I thought there was a rule for certain types of land, that mean they had to be tended. ie for arable land, it must be 'farmed', you can't just have it as a garden.
A friend bought a similar piece, albeit 80 miles further west. One plan was to buy 'abandoned' ponies previously owned by travellers, fatten them up a bit and sell them on to Longleat Safari park. True story, I kid you not.
If you look at your lunch local authorities planning portal there should be a map which will have markers on it for any planning applications that have been made in the past.
you can use that to find out whether the vendor “thinks you can” get planning permission (ie they haven’t applied) or “knows you can’t” because they’ve had an application knocked back 🙂
Thanks for that pointer Maccruiskeen. Spent the evening reading about the current owners attempt to turn it into a "dog exercise paddock". Failed left right and centre.
Also found out that it's in green belt, AONB, and SSSi amongst other things*. Presumably that makes it near impossible to get normal planning permission, for something like a house?
So how about allotments? It's on a bike path, with level access to the city of Bath. Could be a cycle access set of organic allotments. perhaps something novel like that?
*Agric Land Class 3b,4,5, Contaminated Land, LLFA - Flood Risk Management, MOD Safeguarded Areas, Policy B4 WHS - Boundary, Policy B4 WHS - Indicative Extent, Policy CP8 Green Belt, Policy CP9 Affordable Housing Zones, Policy NE1 Green Infrastructure Network, Policy NE2 AONB, Policy NE2A Landscapes and the green set, Policy NE3 Local Nature Reserve, Policy NE5 Ecological Networks, Policy NE5 Strategic Nature Areas, SSSI - Impact Risk Zones
Yes you could call it the contaminated allotment or something equally appetising.
*Agric Land Class 3b,4,5, Contaminated Land, LLFA – Flood Risk Management, MOD Safeguarded Areas, Policy B4 WHS – Boundary, Policy B4 WHS – Indicative Extent, Policy CP8 Green Belt, Policy CP9 Affordable Housing Zones, Policy NE1 Green Infrastructure Network, Policy NE2 AONB, Policy NE2A Landscapes and the green set, Policy NE3 Local Nature Reserve, Policy NE5 Ecological Networks, Policy NE5 Strategic Nature Areas, SSSI – Impact Risk Zones
All you need is NDS* and BOAIBG** for the full house.
*Notorius Dogging Spot
** Built on an Indian Burial Ground
So how about allotments?
How long do you plan to live before you get your investment back and start making a profit?
Allotments in Bath currently cost "As of September 2017 the annual rent for a plot is £8.02 per 25 square metres" and they offer 50% off to people on low incomes."
I've just paid £1 per Square foot buy some land recently - so thats cheap. But at that rate it would take me would take me 31 years to make back my money if I let it out as allotments 😆
Houses? No chance. Too many heavy-hitting planning designations as well as historic building setting considerations. Camp site would need to be off-grid unless you can get services in and foul out (as well as the planning designations to deal with).
Are the cycle paths primarily used as a cycle commuter link? Would they be willing to stop? How busy is it on weekends? It would likely need to be a very low key building given the AONB and GB planning and design requirements.