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Anyone tried these. Spotted in Asda, beechwood smoked and , well looked different 😕 ,and I put them in my basket,but then put them back. Maybe Im not ready for such crazy ideas.
Anyone else come across lamb bacon yet ?. I thought it Halal or Kosher, but theres nothing on the packet to suggest such, so maybe this is a new thing.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur. That was odd.
I’ve had beef bacon. It was lush. Beef but bacon...what’s not to like?
I enjoy turkey bacon.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur.
Had similar in Saudi - "Breakfast Slices". Bacon it was not.
Venison beef and turkey in doha all grim.
Sounds like someone in charge of making proper food for vegetarians got confused.
We have bacon Tofu, we have lamb Tofu, we have all kinds of fungus that tastes like a different kind of meat specifically for people who don't want to eat meat.
I know, lets get meat that tastes like a different kind of meat.
Anyone for egg flavoured lettuce?
I know, lets get meat that tastes like a different kind of meat.
it’s not the point of lamb bacon to be a fake bacon- it’s the same cut cured in the same way. The point is that it tastes different.
Iirc that cut in lamb is referred to as the Flaps 🙂 usually quite a cheap cut, almost a waste product because even for lamb It’s very fatty. Lamb Flaps have been blamed for issues of widespread obesity in Polynesia as their diet is largely made up of the cuts of meat neighbouring richer countries don’t want. Donner kebabs are mostly made of flaps too
Okay - I stand corrected. It is not making meat taste like a different meat, it is trying to sell waste product as a meal knowing it causes obesity as witnessed in Polynesia.
I am actually glad you told me that as I was going to try and find some to eat out of curiosity. Now I won't. Good advice received and taken. Cheers
I am actually glad you told me that as I was going to try and find some to eat out of curiosity. Now I won’t.
what you need in that case is turkey bacon. 🙂 which is one meat made to taste like another but with the benefit of being healthier than real bacon
Lamb bacon? Yeah, I'd give that a go, but then I love lamb.
I remember one of the greatest meals I've ever had was when I was in China Town (London) for work a long time ago and they had crispy lamb pancakes on the menu. Like duck, but lamb. Oh. My. God. It was unbelievably tasty. Been looking out for it ever since, but never found it. I mean, they had lamb crackling for crying out loud!
it’s not the point of lamb bacon to be a fake bacon- it’s the same cut cured in the same way
Mutton/lamb flaps (giggity) are ribs/breast. Many different cuts of pig can be bacon.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur. That was odd.
So did I. It is not bacon. It tastes like fried corned beef.
Some rules on food:
1. Bacon is made from dead pigs.
2. Milk comes from animals.
Went on a wild camp with a vegan once, I felt smug whilst I jokingly renamed their meat substitute ‘FACON’
Ate my words when we ran out of food, it was bit like extremely salty cardboard tho.
We survived.
Sad memories of Mongolian Lamb at Big Wok in Brum and Nottingham - fried crispy chunks of lamb with lush hotspots of fat. Delicious. 🙂
No point naming anything other than pig as bacon - nothing out-bacons bacon.
Flanks of lamb they are called here. And 100% correct in that is a mostly fatty part, little good for anything. Although that said theres an English system of trimming the fat from the meat, as there is a fair bit of meat on it, only theres so much layered fat with it, gleaning what you can from it leaves it only really fit for the mince(Lamb added to beef when minced can add a bit of sweetness).
The English shops then spread a filling and roll it, secured with twine and sliced. A bit fatty I reckon, but it's priced cheap.
I know this as I use to work in a small company boning out lamb fores for Donner kebabs.
Made entirely from lamb, from the fores(shoulders) and the flanks.
The Muslim lads were very careful to remove the skin and any gristle and really insisted you track through it to make it as clean as possible. Flanks are skinned too and the internal cartilage from the end of the ribs get removed, Diaphragm off, they dont like that for some reason, maybe its considered offal so unclean or such. Shoulders are usually quite lean, the fat from the flanks is mixed to help keep it basted while its turning on the spit.
Minced and mixed with secret family spices and every company has their own.
All night, 12h boning out fores and flanks. Enter the chill and be confronted by 500 of the f%ing things 😆 never ending.
@dyna-ti - I think your career dismantling animals has left you with a kind of PTSD.
Some rules on food:
1. Bacon is made from dead pigs.
2. Milk comes from animals.
Fruit flesh
Coconut milk
Turkey bacon
Almond milk
Language is language, hate to burst bubbles!
‘Almond milk‘, for instance, was in most European cookbooks from around 1300 onwards. It’s not such a well-known fact today but us kids born in the 1960s and 1970s were targeted pretty hard by the Milk Marketing Board. This made us pretty defensive of a dairy (and meat)industry monoculture as far as foodstuffs were concerned.
Am just about to tuck into the flesh of a plump chestnut mushroom.
I wonder if there are nut-fundamentalists out there who wish to set ‘rules’ that state:
‘A chestnut comes from a tree. It is not a mushroom. It is not a hair-colour.’!
And how can peas be pudding? Don’t get the pudding-fundies started...
Turkey bacon
Is not bacon, regardless of whether it's delicious or not.
Coconut milk
Is not milk. It is coconut milk.
Almond milk
See above.
Fruit flesh
Nobody gives a rat's arse.
Always guarantee that the BACON-IS-MANLY brigade get all puffy chested, haha!
Nobody gives a rat’s arse.
I see that you don’t! 🤣😂🤣
Similarly, I remember when chocolate was made from cow’s milk. Glasses of it. Because 1970s UK was made from dairy.
Nowadays they talk about all these ‘bean’ chocolates. Soyboyzzzzzzzzzzz. Don’t they know the history of chocolate? If chocolate isn’t made from cows then what is it made from? I’m getting sick of these flora-fascists. What’s right is right!
Hols2, joking apart - can we at least agree the fact that ‘milk’ is a fluid definition and has been for millennia and across cultures? It’s perfectly ok to say ‘cow’s milk, goat’s milk, coconut milk etc...
Fluid definition
Boom chah!
Linguistically speaking, using “milk” to refer to the “the white juice of certain plants” (the second definition of milk in the Oxford American Dictionary) has a history that dates back centuries. The Latin root word of lettuce is lact, as in lactate, for its milky juice, which indicates that even the Romans had a fluid definition for milk.
it is trying to sell waste product as a meal knowing it causes obesity as witnessed in Polynesia.
Yeah, we’d never do anything like that here.
Iirc that cut in lamb is referred to as the Flaps
Okay since nobody else has...
...bacon flaps? Really?
Donner kebabs are mostly made of flaps too
Okay you're on a windup here. Convince me otherwise.
joking apart – can we at least agree
no we cannot!
Is it actually cured or just sliced thin to look like bacon?
If it's the former, no, on so many levels, no. I like bacon and I like lamb but I don't want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don't want beef flavour ice cream.
If it's the latter, then why the hell not? It's no different than lamb sausages or pork burgers.
why the hell not?
Because it's not made from dead pigs!
@Dangourbrain
Found an article on it. Actually called 'Macon', not sure how they got to there but hey ho.
https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2020/05/01/Asda-to-stock-lamb-macon-product
The company says it is aimed at regular shoppers as well as those of Muslim and Jewish faiths.
Now that is quite a feat, to have both halal and kosher in the same product 😆
Cant see that being a problem 😆
Says cured and smoked, and I'm actually wishing i'd kept it now, give a taste test report.
Had non pork bacon in Saudi and it's just revolting, like chewing shoe leather with artificial smoky flavour, although the turkey sausages are worse.
The other hotel just went full random though so served chicken nuggets, curry and spiced noodles for breakfast.
Macon
Mutton rather than lamb at a guess, or "meat"
Lamb chorizo
Mmmmmm
You should try bacon koftas. Delish!
Is it actually cured or just sliced thin to look like bacon?
If it’s the former, no, on so many levels, no. I like bacon and I like lamb but I don’t want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don’t want beef flavour ice cream.
If it’s the latter, then why the hell not? It’s no different than lamb sausages or pork burgers.
I’ve read this about four or five times now, and can’t see at all how it makes any sense! In short, why ‘should’ cured/smoked meat always be pork, yet sausage can be any meat?
Your ‘meat rule’ for bacon vs sausage is either
1. inconsistent (ie different rules for cured meat recipes vs uncured meat recipes) or
2. interchangeable (ie same rule for sausage as for bacon)
You can’t have it both ways.
And you can’t answer ‘because pork is bacon’, because the same claim could be made for sausage. Both sausage recipes and curing recipes have used all types of meat across history and cultures.
Again, you can’t logically have it both ways.
ie ‘beef sausages? I like sausage and I like beef but I don’t want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don’t like pork-flavoured apple pie’
Because it’s not made from dead pigs!
I bet you love a bit of gammon.
Now that is quite a feat, to have both halal and kosher in the same product
*In* the same product?
Good opportunity here to educate yourself re: terefah and haram.
Soylent Green is People
Bacon is Pigs
Facts
You
Is not milk. It is coconut milk.
Me
It’s perfectly ok to say ‘cow’s milk, goat’s milk, coconut milk etc - surely we can agree?
You
no we cannot!
It seems you even disagree where you agree! Anyway, facts aren’t opinions. Goats milk, coconut milk, cow’s milk, almond milk, all terms that have been used for centuries and are still used today. You don’t get to agree with ‘coconut milk’ as a term and yet not also ‘goat milk’. It’s inconsistent.
#meatloafisnotbreadloafisbreadorisbreadmeat
#elkbaconisnotporkbacon
It seems you even disagree where you agree!
Nonsense.
I bet you love a bit of gammon.
Especially if it's made from dead pigs.
I thought it would be right up your street, yeah.
In short, why ‘should’ cured/smoked meat always be pork, yet sausage can be any meat?
It's not that cured meat should be pork, its that bacon flavoured lamb would be awful. See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
It’s not that cured meat should be pork, its that bacon flavoured lamb would be awful. See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
So it’s not that people don’t/haven’t/can't cure/smoke/slice other meats, it’s just that you only like the taste of cured/smoked pork because all other meat tastes awful if cured/smoked/sliced?
Gottit. Recommend that you keep the lamb away from salt and smoke. BBQs especially.
See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
I can’t, apparently it doesn’t exist, and if it does it’s not bacon. It’s magically existent and non-existent all at once 🤣
See also elk bacon, bison bacon, ostrich bacon, venison bacon...(or not, see above)
(All of which you have tried and rejected)
BTW you can make the same ‘argument’ about sausage ‘Only pork is sausage, because who wants sausage-flavoured lamb’
I think what it boils down to is that some people like pork so much that it’s like a religious experience and/or some kind of meat Nationalism.
Some lamb bacon, yesterday:
I was going to post a pic of some ostrich kabanos but a red-faced Greek fellow wrestled my jpg to the ground and torched it before singing ‘ O Kleftis’. He dropped his lamb-bacon sandwich though, so I win 😎
So it’s not that people don’t/haven’t/can’t cure/smoke/slice other meats, it’s just that you only like the taste of cured/smoked pork because all other meat tastes awful if cured/smoked/sliced
No.
It's that making lamb taste [vaguely and not a much] like bacon would be horrid.
Cured things can taste great, regardless of what they are, but you do what you do to suit what you have, not to suit something you don't.
Eg salt beef, salt beef is lovely, it's cured, it even uses some of the same things you would use in curing bacon but what it certainly isn't is beef trying to be bacon.
(your picture looks exactly like lamb breast, I'd have expected that to be chewy as a chewy thing in a sandwich but it does taste lovely, assuming it's this Macon stuff, does it taste like crap bacon or does it taste like a thing in its own right)
Eg salt beef, salt beef is lovely, it’s cured, it even uses some of the same things you would use in curing bacon but what it certainly isn’t is beef trying to be bacon.
Exactly, because it’s salt-beef, not bacon 🤦🏼
Beef bacon is beef bacon. Not *trying* to be bacon made from pork.
Lamb sausage is lamb sausage. Not *trying* to be sausage made from pork.
Etc
Etc
Etc
Your example is as meaningless as this:
Gammon is (boring), it’s cured, it even uses the same things you would use in curing salt beef but what it certainly isn’t is pork trying to be salt-beef.
Chaps, you're shouting at bacon.
Dear God.
They'll never get the grease off that I phone screen.
Chaps, you’re shouting at bacon.
If you think that’s ‘shouting’ then you should hear the ‘nutters’! It’s terrifying! Nutionalist fury like that can empty a bar in seconds.
‘Today I had some dry-roasted nuts.’
‘Those were almonds. Peanuts are dry-roasted’
‘Traditionally, in the UK/US maybe, but nuts, salt, smoke, spices and fire are older than the UK. Anyway, care for a dry-roasted almond?‘
I hope you pointed out neither peanuts nor almonds are nuts.
I hope you pointed out neither peanuts nor almonds are nuts.
You want to tell that guy that his peanuts aren’t nuts? Good luck with that. I think he’ll be relieved to hear about almonds though. ‘Vindicated’, even.
I hope you pointed out neither peanuts nor almonds are nuts.
Neither are walnuts, apparently.
Neither are walnuts
Well that's obvious, if either peanuts or almonds were walnuts surely you'd call them walnuts, not peanuts or almonds.
More importantly though would a walnut peanut be a walnut trying to be a peanut or would it be a flavour sensation in its own right? I'm thinking honey roast or salted would work but dry roasted walnut peanuts wouldn't.
A man walks into a psychologist's office wrapped head to toe in transparent cellophane...
The psychologist takes one look at him and says, 'I can clearly see your nuts.'
We've strayed away from Bacon. Let's get back on topic.
dangeourbrain
ISWYDT. Let’s replace your nuts with (animal) meats and see if your exampleargument is consistent? 🧐
More importantly though would
a walnut peanutlamb pork bea walnutlamb trying to bea peanutpork or would it be a flavour sensation in its own right? I’m thinking honey-glazed or salted would work but bacon made fromwalnut peanutslamb pork wouldn’t.
Which is absolutely true, bacon flavour lamb would be horrid. (this is only to do with it not being pork in so much as they don't taste the same and lend themselves to different things, like putting cream in tea is fairly unpleasant but it's OK in coffee*)
We’ve strayed away from Bacon
I'm pretty sure, by your own argument, this thread was never about bacon.
*ymmv of course, but if you're over 70 you'll probably like cream in coffee
Which is absolutely true, bacon-flavourlamb would be horrid.
I see, we’re back to
Sausage-flavour beef would be horrid
Bacon and sausage can be (and are) made from other things than the more traditional pork-belly/pig-meat
Not liking the taste of something (that you most-likely haven’t even eaten) does not mean that you win 😂
‘Care for a lamb sausage?’
‘No. Sausage-flavoured lamb is awful’
‘Er....’
OK, to clarify, sausage is a shape. It's not a taste, you can't have sausage flavour beef any more than you can have cyan flavour beef. (colour and shape do play an important part in our perception of taste but neither confers flavour of their own.)
As a result sausages can be made from about anything you like and they can be quite tasty too.
This is probably why quorn sausages are bloody awful, someone tried to make quorn taste like a shape and it didn't work.
Bacon isn't a shape, it's a thing, hence lamb bacon not simply being called bacon, yet pork bacon actually, simply, being bacon.
Fake things usually taste worse the more like the thing they're trying to be they get, turkey and beef bacon are marketed as bacon substitutes, they're awful and they're very much trying to be actual bacon. frazzles are not a bacon substitute, aren't trying to be like bacon and are really rather good.
Lamb bacon I've never tried, but, if its just lamb that happens to resemble bacon, so it can be used like bacon, its probably good. If its lamb that someone thought "oh I can make this close enough to bacon for people who don't eat bacon to pretend they're eating bacon" it'll be crap.
My suspicion is, if they feel the need to call it lamb bacon, not lamb rashers, or breakfast lamb, or lamb balloons or flaps or what ever, it's because they want it to be bacon, so it'll be crap.
I notice a quick Google turns up "popular in world war two" when people gravy browned their legs, drank acorn coffee and so on. It doesn't exactly fill me with confidence it's not some sort of erstaz bacon.
But I digress, you're right, simply not liking something doesn't make me "win" but my now very labored point, is not that it shouldn't be allowed, or that it isn't real, but that its either [probably] awful or really only bares a passing resemblance to bacon.
I can’t now field that many inconsistencies and strawmen in an argument. Your goalposts now resemble the Menec alignments (populated by a dizzy football-team composed entirely of centre-forstrawards)
‘Sausage is a shape, it’s not a taste’
You win!
(Most of all because now I have a craving for sausage-and-mustard-shaped crisps)
Jesus wept, this place...
Jesus wept, this place…
For God's sake don't bring religion in to it!
Oh. Hold on. Erm...
*In* the same product?
Good opportunity here to educate yourself re: terefah and haram.
Climb down Rob, climb down, this aint no place for a soapbox speech.
Yup, know that. Tongue in cheek, AS STATED IN COMPANY LITERATURE.
So the only way a single product could appear to both Muslim and Jew, is if they did two different products, or 3 rather. One suitable for anyone, and the other 2 Kosher or Halal.
Or as we've recently found out killed by themselves 😉
Jews cannot eat Halal and Muslims wont eat Kosher, in fact I reckon both are set against it, ad while I dont know the absolute fact, I know kosher is very carefully examined so every single ingredient no matter how small or slight or how little is use, each and every ingredient is checked off by a rabbi, or such allowed to make those decisions..
Quite sure anything that isnt kosher but is halal wont be allowed, and vice versa, with everything needing the Imam or Cleric to sign it off as wholly halal, and again I reckon they'd stop kosher entering this very important food chain.
So might want to inform the company as it is they that made the suggestion I reported on, and you are chastising me for.
All square 😀
it is trying to sell waste product as a meal knowing it causes obesity as witnessed in Polynesia.
Yeah, we’d never do anything like that here.
It’s well-known that streaky bacon is the tastiest bacon.
Have you ever tried super-lean unsmoked rindless bacon? Neither have I. That’s because it has no real taste except for salt. Unless smoked. Then salt and smoke.
I reckon lean lamb bacon would be much tastier than lean pork bacon. Because lamb. And streaky lamb bacon? Well, if as worldclassaccident says, fatty meat = worthless. Then...similar in worth to streaky bacon?
Unless you find worth in the taste as least as much as you find worth in the nutritional-value and in the texture. But the taste is in the fat. My old dad would rather belly pork than gammon any day. And he knows his onions.
Not liking the taste of something (that you most-likely haven’t even eaten)
I've eaten beef bacon in a hotel in Kuala Lumpur. It was awful.
^ Yes (but with the greatest respect) - as a (British?) pork-bacon fundamentalist you simply can’t be trusted for beef bacon reviews any more than I’d trust a pork sausage review from a (Floridian) beef-sausage fundamentalist.
Well, that’s actually not fair. Back when I was a (pork) sausage fundamentalist I did once try a (pork) sausage in Marathon Key. It was awful. And it came on a ‘biscuit’ (which itself should have served as sufficient warning). Having tried other pork sausages I know that some of them can actually taste pretty good - so I like to think that I’m reasonable enough to grant that maybe just maybe my experience in Marathon was not wholly representative of (pork) sausage. Too complicated?
Otherwise (going by more simplistic ‘reasoning‘) we should warn others that pork sausages and beef bacon (and by extension lamb bacon, and lamb sausage, and ostrich bacon, and turkey sausage, and elk bacon and bison bacon, and beef sausage, and venison bacon, and chicken sausage, and boar sausage, and turkey bacon, and venison sausage) are probably all worth steering well clear of because they taste or probably taste ‘awful‘?
Why? Because based upon our respective negative transcontinental experiences with both pork sausage and beef bacon? And don’t get me started on Richmond (pork) sausages or Tesco (pork) bacon. Disgustang!
Good thing that there’s no accounting for taste...
(Full disclaimer - am a fairly recent ex-meatie, so regard my taste-buds with similar levels of disgust and suspicion normally felt by religious fundamentalists towards apostates)
AFAIK there’s only one ‘isn’t bacon’ bacon:
and it IME tastes really nice*. Especially in colcannon hash. More rule-breaking deliciousness.
*Though not as nice as king oyster ‘bacon’**
**Not a king. Not an oyster. Not bacon. Great success!
But let’s ask a self-styled professional carnivore to settle the non-pork bacon question once and for all with an ultimate challenge!
Beef bacon vs two types of pork bacons (see, I even made it 2 vs 1 to give you a morethanfair chance!
Results are in:
Florida Man's views about sausages are not high on my list of priorities.
https://wgno.com/good-morning-new-orleans/daily-download/fl-man-arrested-for-throwing-sausages-at-his-mom/
https://patch.com/florida/lakeland/polk-county-man-arrested-stuffing-sausage-his-pants
^ No. You utterly failed to comprehend/I utterly failed to make the point
Here again:
Having tried other pork sausages I know that some of them can actually taste pretty good – so I like to think that I’m reasonable enough to grant that maybe just maybe my (holiday) experience in Marathon was not wholly representative of (pork) sausage. Too complicated?*
*Obviously!
I’m saying that (for me) pork sausage can taste good. Growing up in the West Midlands pork/bacon/pork offal/pork sausage/pig blood is akin to a religion. I have tried so many pork sausages and bacon in the last 50 years that I could write a book on them.
But - in my experience not all sausages taste good, and that isn’t dependant on whether or not they are made from pork - because some pork sausages *don’t* taste good (as my experience in a restaurant in Marathon proved)
^ Now you (hopefully) get what it is that I’m trying to say, and you might just begin to understand that maybe just maybe your experience in with beef bacon in some place in Kuala Lumpur is not representative of all (non-pork) bacons/rashers/cured/smoked/fried meats (delete to your hearts content)
PS the guy in the video is not me, and neither is he (AFAIK) on holiday in The Keys Or Kuala Lumpur. But he’s a meat fan. ie a fan of meat. Not, AFAIK, a beef fundamentalist. And in that video he has settled the argument about pork vs beef bacon. The ultimate challenge is over. Watch and weep 😎
It’s a draw.
Other reviews are also good for lamb bacon. Here’s two links below. The second one goes into a lot of detail and various recipes.
https://www.coombefarmorganic.co.uk/products/265-organic-lamb-bacon
http://www.johnnyprimesteaks.com/superior-farms-lamb-bacon/
I’ve had beef bacon. It was lush. Beef but bacon…what’s not to like?
If you’re a porkfundamentalist or a vegan - then everything*. If you like and buy and enjoy meat, then probably nothing (Unless it’s poorly-made/badly-cooked)
*Though a vegan might like the flavour/texture but choose not to buy it for ethical reasons/or find other ways to get protein and/or the taste by using non-animal ingredients.
The pork-fundamentalist OTOH will attack the beef and defend/promote the pork until beyond the end of the universe. Non-pork meat products for the porkist can be like a haram kind of thing.
he has settled the argument about pork vs beef bacon
There is no argument to settle. Bacon is made from dead pigs. That other stuff is not bacon, regardless of whether people like it or not.
The argument that the Ultimate Challenge video settled was your assertion that beef bacon tastes ‘awful’ (your word again)
It doesn’t taste ‘awful’. He said it tasted as good as the pork bacon. Settled.
Unless you are going to now agree with me that taste is to the highest degree subjective?
As for whether curing/smoking/slicing belly meat is only to be called ‘bacon’ if it comes from ‘dead pigs’ then you’ve probably got a some kind of fundie-fight going on with ever-evolving language. Somewhere there is a beef fundie protesting that a ‘burger’ is only be made from a dead cow, not from a living one/not from a lab/carnery, and definitely not from pigs or from plants!
But whatever you say - beef bacon tastes ‘amazing’, not ‘awful‘. And I just proved it 😉
Some facts on food:
1. Bacon can be made from pigs and other animals. And in the near-future from stem-cells of pigs and other animals.
2. Milk comes from animals and plants. Dairy milk comes from animals. ie Cow’s milk, goat’s milk. Plant milk comes from plant-sources. ie coconut milk, almond milk.
It doesn’t taste ‘awful’. He said it tasted as good as the pork bacon.
He's wrong. If he was right, there'd be plane loads of tourists coming back from Malaysia frantically telling all their friends about this amazing new food they discovered. But the fact is that there is not a single documented case of that happening. Instead, there a millions of people queuing up at KL airport muttering to themselves that the first thing they're going to do when they get home is have a nice bacon butty.
Bacon can be made from pigs and other animals
I accept Wikipedia is not always right, nor does it define the world around us but:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon
Bacon is pork. Its not that I'm pork a fundamentalist any more than I'm direction fundamentalist by virtue of insisting ^ is up. It simply is.
Anything else isn't bacon, taste aside, "beef bacon" isn't bacon, it's "beef bacon". Same as your aforementioned colcanon isn't if its made with swede in place of potatoes.
taste aside, “beef bacon” isn’t bacon,
I find it hard to believe that anyone who's tried it would say this. It tastes *. If it tasted ok, I would let it slide, but it's just vile *.
To that I would answer that your Malaysian ‘beef bacon’ is probably as representative of tasty food as that Florida ‘sausage’ I was served.
I doubt very much that millions of tourists to the USA ran screaming with joy back home to tell their friends about the wonderful sausage they tried in Marathon Key
You argument is broken. I’ve been fortunate enough to work with hundreds of foreign visitors to the UK and one thing I noticed was very few raved about any British foodstuff. Many would refuse to eat a lot of the stuff on offer.
This doesn’t mean that all British food doesn’t taste good. I did know a Belgian girl who raved about crumpets. She actually gained loads of weight because of crumpets! I’m pretty sure most foreigners go home from the UK to stuff their faces with their weird/comfort-bringing American/German/Japanese/Spanish/Malaysian food rather than their behaviour resembling your fantasy litmus test where foreigners run whooping home in their millions and change theirs and their friends diets to include these new amazing British foods!
Doesn’t mean that (insert any foodstuff) is objectively disgusting, right? Or is (say) a Cornish pastie only vindicated in your mind if plane-loads of visiting Malaysians returned home and then enthusiastically converted family and friends to eating Walls pasties following their trip to London?
Well they don’t, so Cornish pasties objectively taste shit then, according to you 🤣😂🤣 Otherwise plane loads yada yada new beef food yada yada
🙄
one thing I noticed was very few raved about any British foodstuff. Many would refuse to eat a lot of the stuff on offer.
Did any complain about bacon butties though? (Apart from people who don't eat dead pigs, obviously.)
^ That would rather depend on the quality of the bacon buttie.
Even Brits can’t agree that all bacon is great
Read random reviews:
I don’t remember any notable bacon appreciation from foreign friends/colleagues. Refusals, yes, but no overt appreciation. At least nothing approaching mine 😬 I think it (bacon) was generally seen as something boring/bland and unhealthy. Americans seemed to want to put fresh greens and tomatoes on it, or cheese.
The French often liked thinly-sliced ham on their toast. I find that fairly boring tbh. Ham adds little if anything to the fried cheese-toast which already tastes great. But then the difference between a hand-reared home-cured ham and that watery clammy stuff you get in plastic packets is like night vs day. I imagine the same could be said for Malaysian beef bacon vs that guy’s beef bacon in the triumphant video upthread 😉
It’s like noodles. How can people get excited about noodles? I realise that it’s not the noodles, it’s me. Because many people do of course get excited about noodles. I have also been served noodles that I wouldn’t give to my worst enemy. But so what? Doesn’t mean that ‘noodles’ are awful, nor that everyone in every country would eat them all of the time if ‘noodles’ were good 🙄
I used to love bacon butties (sarnies) but if you’d given me some margarine-slathered white bread with some watery, lean, thin-sliced medium bacon with rubbery pale rind then I’d probably have binned it when you turned your back. Doesn’t mean that (pork) bacon butties don’t taste good. Some do.
Vive la difference!
The French often liked thinly-sliced ham on their toast. I find that fairly boring tbh.
Most bland foods can be improved by frying in lard and adding salt.
Or frying in butter, for that matter.
Americans seemed to want to put fresh greens and tomatoes on it, or cheese.
If you'd be brought up on what passes for bacon around most tables in the USA, you probably would too.
Quite how a nation so good at crap food can by and large do bacon so badly is beyond me.