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Hi all
Having a tidy up of the garage now that the bikes are secured elsewhere. One wall is racked out with shelving but I want a small workbench on the other side. To keep things tidy (hide the crap!), I thought installing a couple 2m high kitchen cabinets next to the bench would be a relatively cheap way of acheiving this.
First question, is it OK to secure cabinets to a single brick wall? Its an outer wall, which I will paint. Assume that this shouldn't be an issue?
Second, is the best way to do this to baton out the wall and then secure the cabinets to the timber? Keeps a bit of airflow behind the cabs. Space is premium so would an inch thick timber be enough?
Ta!
I've got one outdoors (wall cupboard not some 600mm deep floor mounted monster) in a sheltered spot, secured straight into the wall with plugs.
I suspect part of your answer is what weight do you want to hang in it.
In fact I'm not sure from your post, do you mean the cupboard will be 2m from the ground or the cupboard itself is 2m tall in which case it would just stand on some blocks/legs on the floor and have a single tie at the top to stop it falling over.
Pretty sure whenever I've removed a wall mounted kitchen unit before that it's been some beefy plugs and screws holding it up, not something so long it's gone through more than a 100mm brick/block.
Having said that the attach to batten approach will allow you to spread the load over say 5 or 6 screws instead of 2 or 3.
Someone will be along to say I am a total idiot in a minute and you should mount it on some artisan/rustic cedar strip mounted with enough metalwork to swing the QE2 on and for a bit of balance someone will suggest just using a picturehook and some cotton.
If you are worried you could batten top and bottom and rest the cupboard base on the lower batten.
Tbh, its not going to be huge weight, more thinking of any damp that might seep through the outer wall and whether I'd need a single baton at the top or multiples. Probably over thinking this...
Its 2m high cabs rather than 2m from the ground
In my garage, single skin brick, I've lined out the walk with 50mm batons and insulation. 18mm OSB on that and cupboards screwed to the OSB.
No problem fixing to the wall, just fit back to the wall direct to brick battening will just space them off and lose you room, unless your walls are far enough out to need to add a batten to fix the top edge to. I batten the floor and pack to level as it’s probably got a drop to it and then screw to the batten and then to the wall - bombproof fixing then & better than the wobbly legs.
If you are purchasing cabinets there are potentially other better options - I’ve got IKEA pax wardrobes in mine in the slimmer depth to keep floor space - reason for this is the various dividers and baskets etc you can get for them is useful. Kitchen cabinets tend to be a recycled option.
Baton it out if you like but I don't see a pressing need. Fischer UX plugs are my go to, work in anything. Don't go too deep, you only need to stop it rocking.
I would possibly try and get a small air gap in that situation but only if the wall ever feels damp. Look at the cabinet first though as the one I have hung up already has a bit of air between most of the back and the wall.
That's a good point re the shape of the cabinet, was thinking that they would all be totally squared but you're right, the sides might protrude back a little.
The wall is by no means sopping wet but I have noticed some 'glistening' on the brick surface occasionally.
Will check out the IKEA wardrobes as well. I think IKEA also sell shallower kitchen cabs as well, 600mm will fit but could make the space a bit tight
If its a flat wall then get a Big Dug rack and mount the cabinets/drawers to that.
It will be super stable and come in a variety of depths.
If its a flat wall then get a Big Dug rack and mount the cabinets/drawers to that.
It will be super stable and come in a variety of depths.
That seems incredibly pointless - i mean racking yes but racking to put up kitchen units ?
Battons also seem overkill but logically sensible having not seen the moisture content of the wall in question but will cost =/-10quid .... rather than a few hundred.
FWIW if you buying i wouldnt buy kitchen units - they are ok if recycling them but they are far from ideal for a garage if spending cash
US pro do wall mounted steel cabinets that are a similar cost to new kitchen units and are a nicer depth for garage spaces.
I've recycled my kitchen units into the garage and they are mounted directly onto a single skin external wall, been there 16 years and no problems so far.
I don't put anything weighty in them as such but the collective weight is obviously a reasonable amount. I use them for aerosols/grease/lube/ and just all the general bike stuff (DIY and car stuff goes on racking).
As mentioned above I wouldn't buy new but as a recycling project they are fine and it would be a waste not too.
If you are concerned about damp I'd say the walls aren't your biggest issue (unless something is fundamentaly wrong) - getting a decent door was was one of the best things I ever did to the house.
Thanks all
I think IKEA do some 450mm depth cabs that are quite cheap - I have nothing to recycle into the garage unfortunately.
I will look at the US Pro.
Door is good - new insulated roller.
Definitely no need to buy new. Get on freecycle and facebook local groups. Plenty of suitable items on there.
French cleat fitting with a couple of nails driven through to secure it? Gives you the space off the wall and a secure fitting.
As long as its damp free, ive seen a number of units used where after a number of years they start falling to bits, especially the door hinge mounts. Chipboard is nobodys friend.