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On BBC news this morning...finds tape measure.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61021823
This should be interesting...my BMI is towards the upper end of the healthy range and I wear 34" trousers, but that doesn't account for your belly, does it...
to measure their waist, they should find the bottom of their ribs and the top of their hips, wrap a tape measure around the waist midway between these points and breathe out naturally before taking the measurement
So that's the fattest part then. I'm going to use centimetres as who wants to convert 5'10" into inches...
Waist=87*2=174
Height=179
Actually quite surprised I am 'compliant', luckily I had a small breakfast! McDs for lunch then 🙂
It should be keep your waist to less than your inside leg measurement. This I’m currently failing at 😩
That’s got to be bollocks surely (the inside leg thing). I have short legs for somebody 5ft 9” and would have to have a 29” waist. That would be on the top thin end
I was being a bit cheeky
Height - 77 inches
Waist - 33 inches
Inside leg - 36 inches
Being a lanky streak of ... has it's merits I guess.
Waist - 86.36 x 2 = 172.72
Height - 175.26
Space for cake!
Hmmm, only just ok on the half-height measurement. But I have gained a bit more recently...for reasons.
Will make a note to get back to where I was, also as my jeans and shorts don't fit either.,
I was being a bit cheeky
Phew!
That’s got to be bollocks surely
Circumference of each or the whole sack?
Circumference of each or the whole sack?
Dangle length.
I'm not even going to measure, I know I need to shed some weight again, but biscuits are so damn tasty!
It doesn't work.
For my very average height, I'd need to add about 3" of waist measurement to reach half my height. That extra 3" of waist makes me very porky indeed - in fact I've never had that waist measurement, even when I weighed 2 stone than I do now with an obvious belly.
What is utterly terrifying is that the guardian article links to an online calculator where you can presumably work out your ratio ....
It's all Covid's fault anyway. Pre-Covid, I rode 20 miles a day commute, then Covid meant I worked from home and went for a lunchtime 10 miler if I could be arsed. Now I work in the office "sometimes" and none of the trousers I wore pre-Covid fit me! So I know my waist is too big without measuring or getting on scales. Thanks for cheering me up with your thread.
It doesn’t work.
For my very average height, I’d need to add about 3″ of waist measurement to reach half my height.
So your waist is less than half your height, which is what the OP says.
Keep your waist to less than half your height…
I think he means that he is well within the acceptable limits even in the past when he was by his own admission fatter.
Which shows you just how fat and unhealthy the average brit is that this is needed.
So your waist is less than half your height, which is what the OP says.
Keep your waist to less than half your height…
Yeah, but the point you've missed is that if my waist is dead on half my height then I'm fat. Plenty of people will ignore the 'less than' bit and only see the 'half waist:height'.
I think he means that he is well within the acceptable limits even in the past when he was by his own admission fatter.
Yes, this.
I'm a little bigger than my dad was at my age now. Both my inside leg and height ratio are well out of synch with my waist. But I'm fit and healthy and my dad is too at 94.
It doesn’t work.
For my very average height, I’d need to add about 3″ of waist measurement to reach half my height. That extra 3″ of waist makes me very porky indeed – in fact I’ve never had that waist measurement, even when I weighed 2 stone than I do now with an obvious belly.
Not sure you've got this right - this is meant to be the 'extreme' you should allow to happen to yourself - not the healthy ideal. The point at which warning bells should be blaring. And this is a message being given out to the UK populus who are collectively a chubby bunch. And this is just the type 2 diabetes bell.
I think it will be very challenging for a lot of people. But like all of these bmi style rough guides, it's rough. At my fattest and leanest I was always way outside the healthy bmi as I naturally carry carry a bit of muscle on broad shoulders. This guide seems better than that.
That’s got to be bollocks surely (the inside leg thing). I have short legs for somebody 5ft 9” and would have to have a 29” waist. That would be on the top thin end
29" waist is pretty much perfect for a 5 foot 9 cyclist...
Anyway, after a quick measure, 36" belly, 6'1", so just squeak in.
Which shows you just how fat and unhealthy the average brit is that this is needed.
You don't need this measure to know that, you just need eyes. Mrs IHN and I were lucky enough to spend six months travelling around Europe about ten years ago, seventeen countries in all. When we came home, two things really hit us:
- the condition of the roads here is by far the worst in Europe, with the exception of rural Romania
- most people in this country just look ill
I think the vast majority of the population will fail this, massively.
I'm 6ft 3in, 79-80kg, not what you'd call 'fat' but my belly is 37" which is only 0.5" under half my height. I have just lost 4-5kg so before that I would have been over. BMI of 21-22 so smack bang in the middle of the healthy range too.
29″ waist is pretty much perfect for a 5 foot 9 cyclist…
I’m not a cyclist, I ride mountain bikes for fun when time allows. Not built the least bit like a roadie.
Yes I was told this a good few years ago when I had a health check up thing with work. Apparently it is a better measure for most people than BMI. Funnily enough I told Mrs D about it this morning as she was worried that her BMI was 25 but she is really pretty skinny.
It works for me too as I just fall within the range also 😀 @ta11pau1 - you see that’s interesting as I am an inch shorter than you but 20kg heavier and have a 38” tub so don’t know where the rest of the weight is!
Yeah, but the point you’ve missed is that if my waist is dead on half my height then I’m fat. Plenty of people will ignore the ‘less than’ bit and only see the ‘half waist:height’.
Apologies, I didn't read that into your original reply. I see what you mean now.
Not sure you’ve got this right – this is meant to be the ‘extreme’ you should allow to happen to yourself – not the healthy ideal. The point at which warning bells should be blaring
The BBC headline is Keep your waist to less than half your height, guidance says NOT Ring the alarm bells if your waist measurement is half your height.
As I said earlier, people won't see the relevant point that you're making, they'll just think that their waist is half their height so they are fine.
And sorry, of course it does work as a calculation, but it doesn't work as decent advice is closer to what I meant.
Yeah, but the point you’ve missed is that if my waist is dead on half my height then I’m fat. Plenty of people will ignore the ‘less than’ bit and only see the ‘half waist:height’.
No, you've still missed the point. Yes, to your eyes as someone who is used to seeing a streak of piss in the mirror you will be fat. That is not in question. Aesthetically you'll be 'one of them'. But the point is that statistically only at that point will your risk of type 2 diabetes be a concern.
You are also coming at this from someone on the right side of the guide. Most folk in your situation won't be going "well then, time to lick some lard'. By habit or genetic fortune you are good to go just as you are. But for the chubbier members of the population it's a goal - dare I say it an achievable goal. If instead of this they had published a photo of you in your skids with the strap line 'This is Jon - he's a healthy streak of piss. Be like Jon' you'd be setting a bar so far up the road as to be out of sight.
they’ll just think that their waist is half their height so they are fine.
But they will be. That's the point. They might not be the fine figure of a man you are - but they will be kerbing their risk of diabetes.
@ta11pau1 – you see that’s interesting as I am an inch shorter than you but 20kg heavier and have a 38” tub so don’t know where the rest of the weight is!
If you've got any upper body muscle it's undoubtedly that, I'm proper skinny, always have been.
I've tried bulking up a few times over the years but never had the dedication to do it, I should do some upper body strength stuff though tbh.
Once my current zwift training plan is over I'll be aiming to lose a few more kg to get the remaining belly fat gone, should get down to 75kg I reckon.
5'11".
28" trousers are tight, 30" are loose so well under 2:1.
What did surprise me was being measured for a wrist support, 7" wrist. I have thin arms but a quarter of my waist seems daft!
I used to get that switching from pure road to a mix of road, CX and MTB XC racing, added a good 3-4 cm to wrists and about 5 or 6 to my neck. But only 3 kilos of extra weight.
5’11”.
28″ trousers are tight, 30″ are loose so well under 2:1.
It's not your trouser waist, it's the biggest bit of your belly. Which, unless you're ripped and have a bangin' six pack, is going to be bigger.
My 34" waist jeans don't stay up, could wear 32", but my belly is 37".
72" tall
36" inside leg
34" waist
BMI 24.7
6'1 and a bit (187cm)
36" belly (but frustratingly between 34" and 36" waist trousers/shorts generally)
33.5" inside leg in trouser sizes
88kg
43yrs
With my BMI being 25.1, advice is I need to lose some weight. However, I've always been broad-shouldered after a childhood of competitive swimming so I'm not fussed and know I'm not especially overweight or unhealthy. Not powerfully built director body shape, but more towards that than skinny.
Looking at the average male Scot though, it's worrying.
But they will be. That’s the point. They might not be the fine figure of a man you are – but they will be kerbing their risk of diabetes.
I'm not arguing with you anymore. In fact you've just been added to my favourite person of the day list!
Oh, can I check whether we are holding our tummies in when we are measuring or adopting a relaxed position? 😀
Can I use the height I was before back injuries or the height I am now?
Similar dimensions to a11y but 10kg heavier.
32 68
boom... eh thats what my trousers tell me, daren't actually get the tape measure out.
Don’t like it. I unexpectedly fit the waist<height/2 guide but know that I am squishy in the middle and could comfortably lose 5-8kg and not be too skinny.
32 68
boom… eh thats what my trousers tell me, daren’t actually get the tape measure out.
I've seen fridges that send shopping lists, and stream music, and my modern tumble drier has an app, although I haven't a clue how an app can be useful in loading a tumbler.
But trousers that tell you your weight? This might actually be the way forward in an obesity crisis. 😀
32::71
Get in.
Weirdly post 50 my body appears to be distributing fat around my body but not on my tummy.
I now have a fatter face, neck and boobs. But can still wear a suit i bought 25 years ago.
Plus my weight is up by 2kg to 78kg
It should be keep your waist to less than your inside leg measurement.
Tick. 70.5", 32" inside leg, 30" waist. Cyclist build. Genes innit.
Sounds like I need to grow a fair bit taller...
I appear to be under tall for my waist
But trousers that tell you your weight? This might actually be the way forward in an obesity crisis. 😀
A tension rated waist button at the back, it breaks at the tension associated with excessive gut and opens the emergency triangular gusset at the back to give a little extra room... but the gusset is red and a littel tail roles out thats has FATTY written along it.
I like it
No measuring equipment at work but improvised and definitely over 4 pants widths tall
That’s got to be bollocks surely (the inside leg thing).
If we're measuring from those then I'm truly buggered.
It's blinking lucky that I'm tall.
180cm high, I wear 36" trousers but they sit below my gut... 104cm around. Got quite a bit to shed!
The forum, just now
72” tall
34” waist
borderline obese on the BMI
My missus is 4ft 10, but with a pair of hooters bigger than her waist, how does that affect things?
Anyone?
Just
[i]My missus is 4ft 10, but with a pair of hooters bigger than her waist, how does that affect things?[/i]
As long as your nipples are further forward than your belly button, you'll do
32" waist trousers, but 34" stomach after lunch. 71" height, but know and feel that I'm too big around my waist. Need to do more running.
My missus is 4ft 10, but with a pair of hooters bigger than her waist, how does that affect things?
Fantastic stealth boast. Though you may have married my wife's twin sister.
55 year old biker of a long time. I hang about and ride with rowers and ex-rowers who now run and cycle a lot. GB level for masters Tri etc.
We all do lots of events, running (not me), Tri's (not me) and biking. I ride mtb with family, local rides and long distance Audax's. c8000km a year
I dont drink or smoke, and eat 80/20 very healthy... he says eating his way through a pack of Bourbon Creams as I write this. I do have a 300k Audax tomorrow.
I fluctuate between 84-87Kg - currently just over 85.
71" tall
32" Ins Leg
36" fat bit of my middle
35.5" half my height
I dont get the wrist thing.. Wrist 7", 1/4 waist 8.25"
As long as your nipples are further forward than your belly button, you’ll do
I'm picturing you measuring ladies in a club with a small weight on a string...
"Hang on love, before we go any further removes string and weight from pocket, dangles from nipple and checks clearance Yep, you'll do."
Height – 190
Waist – 92
Inside leg – 92
BMI - 22
Age - 57
As long as your nipples are further forward than your belly button, you’ll do
4ft 10 = 58in / 2 = 29in
Waist - 26in
Important bits = 38in
Does the BMI calculator take this into account or am I missing the point!!
Now then where did I leave me bike?
and I wear 34″ trousers
5’11”.
28″ trousers are tight, 30″ are loose so well under 2:1.
Try actually measuring the waist band of your trousers rather than looking at the label- you might be surprised what size you actually get. Apart from Simon Cowell nobody wears trouser around their waist, they wear them around their hips because its not the 1920s.
The waist measurement for trousers is a bit like the effective top tube measurement on bikes - its an approximated sizing extrapolated from an assumed waist measurement not the actual measurement where the belt of your trousers sits. Back when trousers were worn around the waist it was a meaningful measurement and if you gained or lost weight it would really change what trousers you would buy. I can gain or lose a stone or so depending on how busy I am with work. Makes no difference to what size trousers I wear because my trousers are round my hips and gaining or losing a bit of weight doesnt change the size of my skeleton. So for the purpose of the exercise you would actually have to measure your actual waist line.
Roughly 5’11” or so with a 32” waist, and very little hanging over the top of the waistband. Ok for a (nearly) 68yo.
It’s not your trouser waist, it’s the biggest bit of your belly. Which, unless you’re ripped and have a bangin’ six pack, is going to be bigger.
Surely it's not *that* uncommon to have a smaller midriff than your trouser waistline?
Genuine question… how do I grow two inches taller?
Queen Victoria was 4 foot 11 tall and had a 4 foot 2 waist (according to her well documented bloomers)
Luckily for her they didn't worry about BMI in Victorian days and she lived to be over 80.
Surely genetics also plays a part here. Even before the modern world of refined carbs and sugar there were people (and entire peoples) that were big units. I worked with a guy who was insanely fit and obsessed with working out. BMI classed him as obese because he was heavy for his size. There was bugger all fat on him, just lots of muscle.
A close friend of mine is 43, eats shite, drinks like a fish, thinks exercise is rubbish but still has a borderline six pack. His older brother is the same.
Height = 65 inches
Waist = 28 inches
Inside leg = 29 inches
Annoyingly, most clothes don't fit me as my chest is 36 inches.
Double post
Twaddle. I'm 67" tall. My gut is 32 " and I am a fat knacker at that. 40% of my height would be better.
Yeah. I thought it was weird that they didn't do ranges, like for BMI.