Well it seems to be level pegging over which branch of the Royal Family is making a mess of their media.
Not that. Something else. Can’t say obviously, but if you know, you know.
The great thing about making vague allusions is that you never get proved to be a bullshitter.
I know something terrible about that poster. Better not say it on here but...you know.
Oh FFS - I don't know what they're 'covering up' any more than I know what PCA thinks I've done. This is the level of 'royal speculation' that we're at.
Yes, I hear rumours of infidelity, of fruity sexual preferences, that KC3 is iller than they're letting on....... or maybe there is something else. I have no inside knowledge and no real interest other than we've managed to get to 5 pages on something we apparently have no interest in either.
Not that. Something else. Can’t say obviously, but if you know, you know.
You know.
I'm assuming this was meant to be sarcastic but sometimes just because you can doesn’t mean that you should.
Sorry but no, there is absolutely no reason for the public to know on people’s health matters regardless of who they are.
This.
Everyone bar none has the right to a private life.
Last I checked Kate isn't a monarch either.
I’m assuming this was meant to be sarcastic but sometimes just because you can doesn’t mean that you should.
Yes. Apologies to anyone that is annoyed, I thought the codeword being used made it obvious enough.
Makes you think.
I also think PCA should disclose what they know. I'm suddenly a lot more interesting than I realised 😉
It's Kate that needed surgery, so unless we're starting a new rumour I don't think that's completely relevant. 😉
I also think PCA should disclose what they know. I’m suddenly a lot more interesting than I realised
You say that, but you also left me the envelope of money in the toilets at Victoria Station like normal, so you're safe for another month.
(Mind you, leaving deposits in odd places is what got you into this mess, isn't it...).
The conspiracy fruits are in full swing. Took about two minutes on streetview to explain away the latest 'ZOMG they forgot to photoshop out the bricks!!!' nonsense.
You say that, but you also left me the envelope of money in the toilets at Victoria Station like normal, so you’re safe for another month.
Ah, now that is libellous and I demand a retraction, apologies, and a payment to charity or else.
I just read that “William beat up Kate and killed her boyfriend. Then she was taken to a clinic for a “termination” which led to complications and now she’s either dead or in a coma” on Twitter.
Pretty heavy stuff to be writing on an open platform with, presumably, no a proof whatsoever?
"Pretty heavy stuff to be writing on an open platform with, presumably, no a proof whatsoever?"
That seems to be X in a nutshell. It used to be great for news you wouldn't see elsewhere but now it is like the Mash but without the comedy value 🙁
Just for clarity, all this started as a picture kill notice was issued by one of the wire agencies as the picture had been doctored, which is something that isn't allowed on the wire service, they would have informed the other wire agencies immediately and they all dropped it.
When spokespeople refer to 'The Agencies' they're not talking about all photo and news agencies but specifically the five main wire agencies, that being The Associated Press (AP), The Press Association (PA), Agence France-Presse (AFP), Reuters and to a lesser extent EPA ( European Pressphoto Agency and their sister agency EFE).
Despite what others have written on here photo manipulation is strictly forbidden on any of the wire agencies and is an instant sackable offence, in fact one photographer who worked for another agency but shot a Royal rota which which was shared with the wires was recently sacked as he'd manipulated one of the pictures, he'd worked for the same agency for thirty years, they also stripped all of his pictures out of their archive, the integrity of the wire is something that's taken very seriously.
The conspiracy fruits are in full swing. Took about two minutes on streetview to explain away the latest ‘ZOMG they forgot to photoshop out the bricks!!!’ nonsense.
Having said that, now either I've succumbed to conspiracy fever, or The Sun has been taken for a ride with the latest video and someone is laughing their arse off about it. Or Kensington Palace is just trolling us now. 🙂
She was in the photo from one of our club social rides last weekend, so she can't be that poorly
I’m more worried that despite not ever subscribing to conspiracy theories even I have read a few tweets on this nonsense and now my twitter feed will be spammed with fake moon landing and alien abduction pics!
She was in the photo from one of our club social rides last weekend, so she can’t be that poorly
But did she drop Wills in the village sign sprint? The public has a right to know.
But did she drop Wills in the village sign sprint? The public has a right to know.
What interests the public isn't always in the public interest.
I bet she doesn't even pay Road Tax.
But did she drop Wills in the village sign sprint? The public has a right to know.
I hear he had no chance, she had him pegged from the start.
she had him pegged from the start.
This keeps popping up – what piece of random interweb gossip have I missed out on?
...just don't google pegging - not at work anyway! 🙂
I know what pegging is - I just don't know what the gossip is relating to them two!
Was surprised this turned up on the LTT podcast but they made some good points. This has got the publics attention (for whatever reason) and now your average person is suddenly a lot more aware of the capabilities of photo manipulation,, especially on the AI side.
To be fair, it has kicked off a whole new tranche of memes, so i'm happy 😂
Turns out she as cancer. And one reason for the pause in news was having to come to terms with the diagnosis and finding the most appropriate way to tell the kids.
Difficult news for a family that so many can sadly relate to. Wishing the best for her, can't imagine how William might be feeling with his father and wife in the shadow of such uncertainty.
Yup just leave her be she is someone's daughter and mother
Yep healing vibes. The family needs a break and better luck.
The item on NBC news at 6 was getting to a level that seemed to push beyond decency with the old "type and stage" chat.
Wow, that's grim, poor thing, 42 is way too young to be dealing with that nonsense.
Parking the jokes for the foreseeable.
Hope she pulls through
Cancer is shit and affects everyone equally. I have an unworn pair of "**** Cancer" socks somewhere, a nice "By Royal Appointment" emblem would finish them off nicely.
F cancer.
I hope she has a swift & full recovery.
I think we have all been affected by someone with the big C. I hope the trolls and media leave her be now but I suspect they won’t. I do wonder if her hand was forced somewhat with the announcement in light of the allegation that a member of the staff at the hospital had been accused of accessing her records and was possibly in line for a juicy payment from a redtop.
And yes, cancer can do one.
I think it's because a cancer diagnosis is such a stark reminder of past bereavements and the fragility of life as it applies to all of us, but hearing about both the king and the princess feels like a punch to the gut.
May they both get better and enjoy many more years with their loved ones.
I actually feel sorry for the Royal family and the amount of scrutiny they suffer is just another reason for the monarchy to be replaced by a republic.
I hope all those who were making ridiculous claims of affairs and other nonsense are happy now. Imagine having to go through a diagnosis, treatment and then having to hear such claims.
I wonder if the ghouls in the media and the weird creepy troll-y internet types are feeling slightly ashamed of the last few weeks of the garbage they've churned out in her general direction?
No, of course not
Cancer is shit and affects everyone equally.
Not convinced about this statement in the slightest. I'd wager a ruby encrusted tiara that either the cancer she or the one Charles are currently being treated for (and I hope successfully) would not have been picked up 'at an early stage' by the level of preventative investigation the NHS is able to justify on the us mere morals (or our fathers and wives).
While I get your sentiment, there's incredible work being done by NHS and private partnerships on early detection tools.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68624334
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/249573/new-ai-tool-detects-13-more/#:~:text=Researchers%20have%20found%20that%20using,human%2 0'readers'%20might%20miss.
And so it starts
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"Not convinced about this statement in the slightest. I’d wager a ruby encrusted tiara that either the cancer she or the one Charles are currently being treated for (and I hope successfully) would not have been picked up ‘at an early stage’ by the level of preventative investigation the NHS is able to justify on the us mere morals (or our fathers and wives)."
I'll call this out. I have several friends thankfully still with us after having cancer diagnosed early by the NHS.
This is not an issue that requires a republican angle.
The UK media have absolutely hounded this out of Kate. What a shame that something so difficult and personal has to be made so public.
Not convinced about this statement in the slightest. I’d wager a ruby encrusted tiara that either the cancer she or the one Charles are currently being treated for (and I hope successfully) would not have been picked up ‘at an early stage’ by the level of preventative investigation the NHS is able to justify on the us mere morals (or our fathers and wives).
Crock o shite. My line manager is currently off work recovering from surgery to remove two patches of melanoma skin cancer. From GP to surgery was two weeks, them there oncology types do not **** around. I know it's de rigueur round these parts to seek any bullshit and tenuous reason to hate on the Monarchy, and by **** there's a plethora of really good reasons to pick, but this one? Nah, you're being a bit daft.
I’ll call this out. I have several friends thankfully still with us after having cancer diagnosed early by the NHS.
Sadly, I can counter with 2 who have not been so fortunate in the last few months and a sister who works for the NHS in cancer care with not so rosy a picture as theotherjonv above about what we can collectively expect. Fancy a 5 month delay between diagnosis and the start of treatment - available in a hospital near you if you win the postcode lottery..... It's not a republican view - it's a statement of fact. It is statically highly likely we will not all get as lucky as the Windsor's with early diagnosis.
Hopefully both of them will make full recoveries. And in doing so will become walking talking campaigners for early diagnosis being a priority for all.
While my mum had ovarian cancer, she also started suffering horribly from an "obstructed bowel" - which, after literally several months, doctors finally took seriously enough to investigate properly and found the cancer had metastasized to her bowel. By which time of course it was inoperable, and she was dead another few months after that.
Queen's Medical Centre Nottingham.
In a horrific twist of fate, my parent's first child died of meningitis aged six months and her organs were harvested by - you guessed it, QMC - without their knowledge. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/3062455.stm
**** the NHS.
From GP to surgery was two weeks, them there oncology types do not **** around.
Sadly not the case everywhere. My MiL had surgery on an aggressive and potentially bone-invasive skin cancer delayed twice this year. From GP to surgery - three months.
I'm glad for anyone who gets to experience the best in clinical care, be it at the London Clinic or in the NHS, but there are massive differences in service levels for high-priority stuff depending on where you live.
As someone who's worked in cancer research for a while and spent a lot of time waiting for cancer surgeries, sadly long delays are not uncommon, staff shortages are not just about doctors and nurses, ive never been to a pathology department thats not understaffed, this can lead to backlogs of diagnosis. We really should have a 7 day a week 24hr pathology service, but its currently impossible to run it 5days a week 9-5
Another reason for surgery being delayed, especially in winter/flu season is bed blocking
often elderly patients have no community care to go to so are stuck in beds that are needed for post op recovery, so you get cancer patients coming in for urgent surgery and then turned away at short notice because no bed is free and this can happen multiple times.
Ironically ive just spent the day at a evolutionary genomics bowel cancer symposium and the clinicians all knew/suspected of Kate's diagnosis
Of course the NHS is no where near as quick as private. I have had private health insurance for 30 years and every time I or my wife has needed it the operations are typically within a week after first discussion (even when they are in NHS hospitals with private bed areas within them)
The private side won't necessarily detect cancer any more quickly though as there needs to be a reason as to why you get something checked and with a lot of cases that won't be for some time after there is a reason and you would usually go NHS for that first check before any referrals (something I guess the royals don't do?)
Rumour has it that she had a hysterectomy.
What the reasons behind that were we will possibly never know. But was the surgery as a result of diagnosis of cancer, or was the tissue analysed post surgery and then found to be cancerous who knows
Still cancers shit however you find out and who ever pays for the treatment
As someone who works in a private hospital cancer treatment is very rare because the drugs are incredibly expensive and surgery often needs itu care that very few private hospitals have. I don’t know of a single private hospital that does preventative testing beyond the money spinner wellness checks
Spoken with Mrs FD and said potentially could have been a cyst on ovary etc, whip out womb and then testing for cancer
Apparently in nhs it’s standard if any lump/ abnormal tissue is removed it will be tested for cancer
Apparently in nhs it’s standard if any lump/ abnormal tissue is removed it will be tested for cancer
Obviously.
The snag is the time that cyst is allowed to grumble on for before you get a- seen and b- to the top of a waiting list for surgery.
I'm not blaming the NHS - we get what we collectively deserve (we collectively vote in the folk that make the national priorities and we collectively consume NHS resources on preventable diseases and conditions). But getting every niggle investigated promptly and regular check ups makes a huge difference to ones chances of having these things found early with a knock on impact on the severity of the treatment and outcome prognosis. It's simply untrue to say it 'affects everyone equally'.
I wasn't saying there weren't delays, rather that there is incredible work being done in diagnostics, and also yes in AI (it's not all evil!) and ML being brought to bear on existing techniques that help to reduce wait times that we should all be grateful for.
The MIA study (second link above) - I knew about because some of our scientists work with some of the ones on this study in trustworthy ML but I first really paid attention to on a R4 comedy show https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2023/new-radio-4-comedy-uncovers-medical-marvels
The typical examination of standard type mammogram scans is for two medics to review them independently and see which require further investigation. Which takes time. The ML algorithm under test was so good, that not only could it get through A LIFETIME'S work in a few days (literally, could review the same number of scans it would take these two medics a working life to do) - it doesn't get tired and doesn't get bored or distracted. And actually as well as being pretty much 100% on detecting the cancerous scans, also detected for follow up some scans that are too small for the medics to recognise - 12% more picked up at early stages that humans are unable to detect. And early detection = better outcomes.
https://www.abdn.ac.uk/news/22964/
(of course, if you don't get your screening done routinely or at first concern, no amount of ML sophistication will find cancer in a scan it doesn't get to look at!!)
I know 'irrelevant' in terms of this thread really, and doesn't address inequalities in treatment in general for those with the wherewithal to buck the system but such an amazing piece of work that I wanted to share.
Christ! No wonder Harry buggered off. A woman who is going through something private is forced to publicly share it because the media and a percentage of the population are utter ****s.
