It could be a real photo and Mrs Wales/Ambridge/Middleton is actually one of the Incredibles.
Does look more like phone based photo processing "AI" being a bit dumb rather than anything else.
Which is odd because presumably the photo was taken months ago, and someone's sat with it all that time attached to a press release and not noticed quite how weird it is, and then had to do the royal equivalent of the Outlook recall.
As a proof of life photo it’s backfired horribly.
Does the AP have form for pulling photos that have been photoshoppped, or is this a grand gesture to force a public appearance? I can’t imagine certain types of slebs sending out unaltered publicity shots. Does these all get flamboyantly banned?
My first assumption was the copyright owner (presumably the Royals) withdrew the rights to use the photo.
Trees must come into leaf early doon soooth
In equally shocking news, Christmas cards also have to be photographed on a day that isn't Christmas if you want people to get them in time.
In equally shocking news, Christmas cards also have to be photographed on a day that isn’t Christmas if you want people to get them in time.
The original claim by the palace when the photo was first published is that it was taken by Willy earlier in the week. Making your sarcasm slightly backfire.
Notice the daughters' boots, one has a heel...
I've got leaves on some of my trees, not a million miles away from Windsor. Not sure of species, (and I'll bet good money STW has a resident arborculturalist and royal sceptic that will crop up to tell us shortly to tell us that tree won't be in leaf until May) but it's not impossible it was a current photo.
Megan's Fault.
In this instance, the Prince of Wales has used his own phone to take the photograph and the phones software has automatically adjusted the image by merging several pictures together, resulting in the appearance of manual correction
That wont work, no one would believe either that billy took the photo, knows how to use photoshop or that any official pr image is taken on anything less that a high end digital camera and not on a phone.
Dear god, her response is breaking news on BBC, in a world where war and destruction is everywhere, this is the top story, and it's just a weird response, she did it as she's an amateur photographer, i'm guessing she didn't write the response, or have anything to do with the photo, the whole thing is just weird, the royal family trying to make out they don't have a dozen minions doing all the stuff around them, it's just them taking photos, modifying them and posting them, yeah right.
Not sending my out of focus to her then.
People are going to go mental when they find out what percentage of the images they’re looking at every day HAVEN’T been photoshopped.
Having seen some of the mums on facebook and at school drop off, i'm guessing 98% at least 🤣
Having seen some of the mums on facebook and at school drop off, i’m guessing 98% at least 🤣
Begs the question, where are you finding photoshoped pics of the school run mums?
The original claim by the palace when the photo was first published is that it was taken by Willy earlier in the week. Making your sarcasm slightly backfire.
Dammit, I'm too jaded from having to film Christmas specials in March / April 😂
I was on photos duty at a family Christening yesterday. Not one of them would pass press agency photo rules, all have been adjusted 🤷🏻♂️
the weird thing for me is not that the picture was modified but that anyone cared enough about their "family photo" to study it carefully enough to spot the anomalies. But then its not incredible to me that Kate (who is widely known to enjoy photography) has taken the images will stuffed up and tried to make them better!
They probably aren't - but there are rumours about unrest in the HoW and so anything that could be claimed as pointing to some kind of a cover up is going to be seized upon.
Begs the question, where are you finding photoshoped pics of the school run mums?
I genuinely can't remember her name but I saw a comedian who said "the last fight I had with my boyfriend was because he liked a picture of my best friend in her bikini on holiday in Greece...six years ago. The problem is that social media makes it too easy to trawl. Before Facebook if you wanted to see photos of your friends in sexy gear, you'd have had to have open a Snappy Snaps..."
Begs the question, where are you finding photoshoped pics of the school run mums?
Pretty simple, they're on my facebook, you get the daily pictures on FB feeds.
Anyway, about Kate, it's just weird they thought they had to send out a picture without any real chasing by the press for one, now the cover up becomes the story, even if there isn't one. I'm just not sure why the Royal household didn't just say 'Kates had an operation, she's recuperating, she'll be back to appearances in x weeks', why they need to send out the everything's rosy stuff is the weird thing.
'without any real chasing by the press for one'
Is that the same press who reported on a papped/covert picture of her last week?
Looking at their social media this morning there are many family pics on there, and always some on Mother's Day, Father's Day etc. A mix of official (credited to the photographer) or taken by her. People like a good conspiracy.
They cant just say nothing because it has been so long. She hasn’t worked this year yet which by anyone’s standards is a long time off work. This was compounded by billy deciding he couldn’t work becuase she wasn’t working and only came out of hiding after his dad asked for help. It just doesn’t fit the narrative they are trying to stick to
What are the conspiracies doing the rounds then? I'm not on Twitter so I don't know what the loons are making up.
^^ That the royals are lizard people, which is ironic as they are way too inbred for cross species action. 😉
would be wrong to repeat here as some may be libellous and get thread shut down.
Breaking ->
Princess of Wales says she edited family photo recalled by picture agencies
Catherine says ‘I occasionally experiment with editing’ as she apologises for any confusion
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/11/princess-wales-says-her-edited-family-photo
What are the conspiracies doing the rounds then?
This is the origeonal... Can't blame them for editing it tbh 😉
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What are the conspiracies doing the rounds then?
Kate is dead.
Kate has cancer and is dying.
Kate has left William and has gone on strike.
Kate has left William and has been put under house arrest.
Kate had abdominal surgery because she tried to kill herself and is now on a private psych ward.
etc..
None of them seem to include 'Kate has been ill and would like some time to recover privately with her family'. 🤷♂️
They cant just say nothing because it has been so long. She hasn’t worked this year yet which by anyone’s standards is a long time off work.
It is not a long time following major abdominal surgery.
This was compounded by billy deciding he couldn’t work becuase she wasn’t working and only came out of hiding after his dad asked for help.
My wife had surgery on her foot and I took a week off to help her - I hadn't realised I would be criticised for being a caring husband! Now obviously she will have all the physical support and help she needs so I doubt he was fetching tea and biscuits like me!
It just doesn’t fit the narrative they are trying to stick to
What is that narrative?
None of them seem to include ‘Kate has been ill and would like some time to recover privately with her family
The world is mad - woman who has had 3 kids, probably doesn’t want any more, has an elective abdominal operation that requires several months recovery.....I wonder what it could be 🤔
has an elective abdominal operation that requires several months recovery…..I wonder what it could be 🤔
Indeed. A hysterectomy is not a trivial operation and would require lots of recovery for a 'normal' person let alone the future queen who doesn't have to worry about getting back to work to keep a roof over her head. TBH I'm beginning to admire the wall of silence from them about what's going on.
When all's days and done though, its likely really p*ssed off 30p Lee that he's changed party allegiance (again) on the day this non event has taken over the news!
Mind you, if it were Meghan, he'd be bloody apoplectic.😁
Can’t we just leave her to recover?
Just a new target for the press.
Just leave her alone. We have absolutely no need to know what she’s had done, where she is or what’s going on. Just proves Harry is actually right.
I think the point is that the overwhelming majority of people were happily leaving her alone or showing zero interest. They then release a heavily, and obviously, manipulated photo in an obscure attempt to say nothing to see here. In doing so they thrust the story front and centre into public consciousness.
I think the point is that the overwhelming majority of people were happily leaving her alone or showing zero interest.
My understanding is that there were some pretty wild rimours on social media that they wanted to quash. This has proved it would have been better to ignore them.
it's certainly taken attention away from *that other thing*
Makes you think, eh.
My understanding is that there were some pretty wild rimours on social media that they wanted to quash
Interesting assumption that they "wanted to quash" rumours. I would assume that in their position they will be quite good at ignoring social media rumours. I believe they traditionally post a family photo around Mothering Sunday - not to do so would have potentially fueled more speculation, or at least implied that something had changed. They've really just stuck to their usual routine... as usual, it is the media getting in a tizz over **** all.
What are the conspiracies doing the rounds then?
How is this even a thing with all the mad shit happening around the globe. Just leave the woman alone FFS. Not you lot btw. I mean the press and weirdos that have some strange need to know what the royals are doing every second of the day. It’s just strange.
Well ‘we’ do pay for them I suppose so have a right to know what they are up to.
You don’t have a right into people’s private lives.
Well ‘we’ do pay for them I suppose so have a right to know what they are up to.
We have a right to know about their working lives, earnings and business interests. We don't have a right to their medical information.
I speak as someone who would get rid of the lot of them.
Clearly a faked image...it's dated tomorrow....
Should really be a 'week aff' to be a baby coo...😉
You don’t have a right into people’s private lives
Just like they should not have a right to pick and choose laws, take money from people to support their lifestyles and so on I suppose. Seems a little bit one sided...
The media interst is the price they pay for their psrt inbread and circuses. I have zero sympathy.
I think the point a lot of people are alluding to is that; some things should be private, regardless of who you are, it's, dare I say it, a human rights issue and should be universal.
It seems certain tabloids/media outlets/personalities are disproportionately obsessed with 'the royals' though... to the point where it's just really weird and wrong...
I suspect Catherine believes Wills forgot their anniversary.
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I think the point a lot of people are alluding to is that; some things should be private, regardless of who you are, it’s, dare I say it, a human rights issue and should be universal.
Once you open the door to the press and use the press to your advantage then its very hard to put a stop to it. Live by the sword and die by it. Complaints about press intrusion when your main reason for being is press manipulation ring hollow at best
You don’t have a right into people’s private lives
On a human level I agree with you. But the situation of having a monarchy in 2024 is an absurd one, and generates absurd expectations on both sides. The concept of accountability and transparency and monarchy are very odd bedfellows. All a modern monarch/royal family member has to offer to justify their existence is the ongoing narrative of their personal life and the public's bizarre fascination in it. Without that they are literally nothing - a completely pointless entity.
A side note to ponder....if a democratically elected nation leader was ill - ill enough to take a leave of absence from the role we elected them to do; would the voting public be entitled to know much about it? When Johnson got covid and ended up in intensive care, did we 'need' to know? Should a head of state be afforded more privacy just because they were born into it or married into it?
To be fair - the lady in question is not a head of state, no-one else is worse off if she is sick, and maybe it is unfair to expect her or the dizzy poshos in her press offices to be aware of the rules maintained by photo agencies. (On one hand, there was a huge scandal in 2013 after the World Press Photo winner was accused of compositing, more or less like Kate did. On the other hand, photo agencies precipitated the death of her husband's mother).
The health of Biden, Churchill, Trump, Johnson, Geoff Gallop, Kiri Allen, and Kjell Magne Bondavik have all been the subject of debate because they did or do jobs where other people can't fill in if they're sick.
All a modern monarch/royal family member has to offer to justify their existence is the ongoing narrative of their personal life and the public’s bizarre fascination in it. Without that they are literally nothing – a completely pointless entity.
That's actually a very non flowery, anti-inflammatory and hard to argue with evaluation of a monarchy in this century.
I approve.👍😁
How is this even a thing with all the mad shit happening around the globe. Just leave the woman alone FFS. Not you lot btw. I mean the press and weirdos that have some strange need to know what the royals are doing every second of the day. It’s just strange.
For some people it’s their Rule 34.
It seems certain tabloids/media outlets/personalities are disproportionately obsessed with ‘the royals’ though… to the point where it’s just really weird and wrong…
Piers Morgan, see Rule 34.
Just like they should not have a right to pick and choose laws, take money from people to support their lifestyles and so on I suppose. Seems a little bit one sided…
Which laws, exactly? And as for taking money to support their lifestyle, I think a large part of the government should be included in that. The Civil List, which covers the Royal Family, plus maintenance of the Holdings, comes out of the money paid to the government out of the profits of all of the Royal holdings, in lew of direct taxation, IIRC. In effect, they don’t cost us anything. Again, AFAIK.
Regarding this photo, Kate’s a keen, amateur photographer, and like many others, likes to retouch errors noticed later. I really can’t be arsed to do any more than crop an image these days, but years ago I’d edit my photos. However, back then it was my job to retouch photos in Photoshop, well before most people knew the technology existed, and even then, around a quarter of a century ago, I knew that photographs lied through their teeth. People just used a paintbrush and or an airbrush.
A rather sanctimonious spokesperson from the news agencies was pontificating about never accepting amendments to photos used in news articles.
I’ll bet Pinocchio wishes he could stop his nose growing like her, ‘cos I don’t believe her for a second. It’s just that the news agencies have professionals who know how not to leave any traces.
Like me, if I could be arsed.
@CountZero
Which laws, exactly?
I might well be wrong but isn't Sovereign Immunity a real thing? Genuinely, I thought it was?
Bizarre. What a time to do a quick write-up on William's side piece!
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1766834273888162074
We're going to need an extra series of The Crown at this rate...
The Marchioness of Cholmondeley lives at Houghton Hall with her husband, David Rocksavage, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley
That sentence from the article above pretty much sums up the utter hilarity of monarchy and inherited wealth/titles!😁
The jokes on us unfortunately!
Harry Enfield - Mr Cholmondley Warner on The Working Class
I might well be wrong but isn’t Sovereign Immunity a real thing? Genuinely, I thought it was?
Yes, it is, but it’s limited to the Sovereign, and also to the State. It also exists in other countries that don’t have a Sovereign, it covers their head of state. See: Donald Trump.
Yes, it is, but it’s limited to the Sovereign, and also to the State. It also exists in other countries that don’t have a Sovereign, it covers their head of state. See: Donald Trump.
Genuinely interesting to know. I get (in the complex area of geopolitics) that a state and even an elected head of state might be immune to prosecution (whilst in office) but I'm not in love with the beneficiary of an act of fate being immune from prosecution if I'm honest. Especially as it's a lifetime gig and that immunity is then handed on to your eldest through yet another act of fate.
All that said, it's just one element of the insanity of monarchy I suppose, amongst even lower fruit.
Once you open the door to the press and use the press to your advantage then its very hard to put a stop to it. Live by the sword and die by it. Complaints about press intrusion when your main reason for being is press manipulation ring hollow at best
For sure..I'm sure Kate knew what she was signing up for when she married william.
But you could argue Harry had no choice, he was born into a family, with no say in the matter. You can choose your friend's but you can't choose your family, etc.
I don't really care that much in this particular context, but I think there's an important disctinction to be made between making a choice and being somehow obligated.
@countzero Liz was reported to have attempted to influence legislation that affected her financially over 20 times (Guardian a few years ago, don't have a link).
Separately the same paper had an article today about how the Windsors have traded on celebrity for decades and as a result have limited arguments to a fully private life.
it’s certainly taken attention away from *that other thing*
Makes you think, eh.
Prince TurboNonce Andy?
Which laws, exactly?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/14/queen-immunity-british-laws-private-property
it’s certainly taken attention away from *that other thing*
Makes you think, eh.
Prince TurboNonce Andy?
No, the alleged infidelity. Like father, like son…
More hints above. We’re being played like fiddles.
Sorry but no, there is absolutely no reason for the public to know on people’s health matters regardless of who they are. Harry refers to what the media did to his mother his choosing to move away from the media.
R4 discussing how this would be painted in the media if Meghan or Biden had done this. They’d be vilified.
Release the original photo and put all this to bed.
No, the alleged infidelity. Like father, like son…
More hints above. We’re being played like fiddles.
Not that. Something else. Can't say obviously, but if you know, you know.
You know.
