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....in Mrs S's petrol car. Drove it until it cobbled and i realised what i had done.

How much do you reckon a tank drain will be? Obviously need to write off the tank full of fuel. Balls.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:07 pm
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Tank drain was £ 200 for me phoned rac and they sorted a local person. I didnt start it though.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:10 pm
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http://dieselhead.co.uk/

http://www.racshop.co.uk/car-maintenance/maintenance-essentials/product/rac-fuelsure-diesel-misfuelling-prevention-device.html

Used both on these on my diesels.

Probably £150 to get the tank drained and fingers crossed that the petrol hasn't screwed anything else in the engine or ££££'s


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:11 pm
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****. What car?


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:12 pm
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Peugeot 107, diesel in petrol engine


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:14 pm
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Word of warning, don't take it to a main dealer to be repaired or tell the main dealer if the car is still under warrenty.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:15 pm
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Why the hell it it even possible to do this? My 5 year old daughter could design different nozzles for different fuels that don't fit in opposing tanks.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:16 pm
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I did it the other way round, petrol in the diesel. It was my own car too and I'd had it for 6 years. Anyway, it cost me £200 to drain it and of course the cost of a tank of fuel. Dammit.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:16 pm
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I thought the pipe entrance was smaller on petrol cars to stop that being possible now??

Rachel


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:17 pm
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Isn't that the difficult one to do? What with nozzle sizes and stuff ! What happened?

EDIT: though potentially the less catastrophic .


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:17 pm
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Not under warranty. Breakdown cover offered a drain tonight but that was 200 plus vat. Having it towed to my local garage that does my servicing, i know they are fair.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:18 pm
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I work for Peugeot/citroen and to fill that 106 with diesel you have had to hold the diesel to the filler neck because it won't fit in. But it still gets done regularly.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:19 pm
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Nozzle just went in. Asda pump.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:19 pm
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It does fit in.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:20 pm
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It would be so easy to put a little chip in the entrance to the tank and a sensor on the hose of the pump - a bit like those clever cat flaps. It senses the wrong one and it refuses to serve you.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:21 pm
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It would be so easy to put a little chip in the entrance to the tank and a sensor on the hose of the pump - a bit like those clever cat flaps

IIRC it has been developed but has never been taken up.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:22 pm
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My sisters boyfriend did it the other way round , it cost him £250 including new fuel filter via a friend of a friend.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:22 pm
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Where abouts are you? Petrol filler necks are a smaller diameter and shouldn't fit a diesel filler in. But it will go in partly but not fully due to a restriction. To stop this.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:26 pm
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You know those cards that play birthday message songs.. Imagine one attached to the fuel cap that sings

Its petrol from the pump
Do not be a chump
Diesel is a pain
Your tank will need a drain

Or t'other way round...


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:27 pm
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Scottish borders, filled up at Asda in Galashiels


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:28 pm
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some good ideas here, they could make the pumps different colours as well I reckon


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:35 pm
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Bit far for me to help you but ill give you a bit of bad news, in my experience 8/10 times in a few weeks/months the EML light will come on and the fault will be a cat ageing fault, the cat has been damaged beyond repair by the diesel and the porous oxygen sensor really don't like it either.
And you don't want to know how much the cat is for that little 3 cylinder engine...


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:36 pm
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[quote=downgrade ]some good ideas here, they could make the pumps different colours as well I reckon
Great idea. I suggest green for unleaded petrol and black for diesel


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:37 pm
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. I suggest green for unleaded petrol and black for diesel

I suggest Red from premium petrol, green for normal and blue for diesel.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:46 pm
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Did the same last week and rang the AA, they wanted £260 and took 4 hours, we rang fuel doctor and they were here within the hour for £125.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 9:49 pm
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Not under warranty. Breakdown cover offered a drain tonight but that was 200 plus vat. Having it towed to my local garage that does my servicing, i know they are fair.

This is what I did, AA wanted £200 + VAT or something similar, got them to drop it off at my local garage who did it for £120 all in (or figures around those amounts).


 
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It would be so easy to put a little chip in the entrance to the tank and a sensor on the hose of the pump - a bit like those clever cat flaps

>> IIRC it has been developed but has never been taken up.

I know the latest Land Rovers are fitted with a device that won't let you put petrol in them. Not quite sure how it works though (and as the owner of one, have no intention of finding out!)


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:14 pm
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My mate Pete keeps putting diesel in his ducati. On the bright side it's quite easy to drain the tank.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:15 pm
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Still waiting for recovery, 1hr 25 min and counting. I am about a mile from home but need to stay with the car.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:21 pm
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FS

You'll be fine, when I filled my Misses (and having met her you can probably imagine the 5h1t I was in) diesel with petrol I had to get it drained by the RAC. But, then used the contaminated fuel in my petrol Beemer (RAC Man said it'd be fine) - so your Wife's car should be fine once emptied.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:23 pm
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I'd have left it in the car park, and sorted it tomorrow 🙂


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:24 pm
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Such an apposite username.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 10:34 pm
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Petrol in diesel is not a biggy. I used to live in the alps and if I couldn't get cold weather diesel used to put a litre of petrol in to stop it going to jelly. Did that in a few different cars with no ill effects and didnt have the tank freeze on me.

Unfortunately diesel in a petrol engine can be a real problem if you have driven it. Mainly because it buggers the catalytic converter. I hope that this is not the case here but be prepared for some expensively bad news. If you get away with a tank drain count yourself very lucky.


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 11:25 pm
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Petrol in diesel is not a biggy.

Apart from causing the high pressure fuel pump and injectors to catastrophically fail due to lack of lubrication, no, it isn't 🙄


 
Posted : 24/07/2013 11:57 pm
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IF it does bugger your cat see bow much your garage will charge to fit:

www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xpeugeot+107+catalyst+convertor&_nkw=peugeot+107+catalyst+convertor&_sacat=0&_from=R40

IF your engines knackered there are regularly those diddy like engines up for sale too due to rear end write off etc. A decent indie wouldnt take that long. (As a side note I think they only weigh 65kg?!).

Cracking little cars 🙂


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 5:53 am
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Why bother with a chip. Put a triangular nozzle on one.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 6:36 am
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some good ideas here, they could make the pumps different colours as well I reckon

Great idea.

They could write "diesel" or "petrol" on the pumps as well.

That would help surely 😉


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 6:51 am
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Still waiting for recovery, 1hr 25 min and counting. I am about a mile from home but need to stay with the car.

Reminds me of a joke. What do you call a Scottish guy who's about a mile from his house?

Hamish!

Nae luck OP - could see me doing that if I was a more-than-one-car household with more than one fuel type involved.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 6:57 am
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Think yourself lucky if you do it on a range rover and call out land rover assist via land rover insurance they insist on replacing both tanks and the fuel lines and some other bits and bobs. A friend did it 3 times at the same petrol station over a six month period.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 7:04 am
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The good news is that if the tank was low on petrol when this happened then the diesel is probably fine to use again. Especially if you don't use it all at once.

Your engine however could be borked.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 7:08 am
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OP I wouldn't be shy of salvage/breakers. I used them a fair few times for bits and pieces. Driveshaft/window regulator/cat for Subaru's. Spare wheels etc etc.

VERY cheap but also - alot of breakers give you a 30day etc refund if the part doesn't work. IF the cat is fubarred, a similar written off newish Aygo etc, more than likely isn't going to have a bawked cat.

On the three times mis-fuelling. Does he also drive that destracted? Scary.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 7:14 am
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Why bother with a chip. Put a triangular nozzle on one.

Chips can be retrofitted.

Then again so can fuel nozzle adapters so ignore as I've thought the same in the past.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 8:08 am
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Apart from causing the high pressure fuel pump and injectors to catastrophically fail due to lack of lubrication, no, it isn't

True if you put too much in, ie more than 8L in a full tank but one litre in an 80l fill up did no harm to multiple vehicles over a few years. Just stopped the diesel going to jelly in the cold which is a real pain in the backside.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 8:18 am
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True if you put too much in,

Which is sort of the context of the thread


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 11:01 am
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In the US, black is petrol and green is diesel. Not massively interesting, but true.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 11:18 am
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So I'm back on the road. Car is running fine so far, 20lt of diesel sat in my garage in an old home brewing keg and I'm only £50 (cash) worse off 😉

Next question then, how easy it it to change a fuel filter? Can this be done by a novice or is it a job for the pro's?


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 11:52 am
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Hasn't got one.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 11:53 am
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Hasn't got one.

Eh? How does it filter fuel then, or does it not?

Anything else I should be doing then to keep car running smooth or is it just a case of driving it to see if it keeps going?


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 11:59 am
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ext question then, how easy it it to change a fuel filter? Can this be done by a novice or is it a job for the pro's?

Generally easy, but sometimes requires some specialist whim whams to charge up the fuel system after you fit the new one.

£20 on a haynes manual would be cheap insurance at this point.

Anything else I should be doing then to keep car running smooth or is it just a case of driving it to see if it keeps going?

The second one, if the cat or O2 sensor has been damaged you'll know about it soon enough from the warning light.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 12:01 pm
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IF it does bugger your cat

I could just about put up with £150 to fix the car, but violating the family pet too? No, that would not do.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 12:14 pm
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The tank sender/pump has a gauze that's it !!! no Peugeot / citroen petrol engine in the last 10 years has one for UK/Europe spec cars


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 12:33 pm
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some good ideas here

All of which are redundant, because it's a problem which has been solved (by Ford at least). On the diesel Mondeo I had, the filler had a ring around the edge which had to be pushed open to release the internal filler cap. A diesel nozzle is the right size to open the ring, the smaller petrol nozzle isn't wide enough and so the flap remains sealed. You also get a funnel in the boot the same size as a diesel nozzle so you can defeat the mechanism if you visit another country.

I'm quite proud that I managed to type that paragraph without using the words 'girth' and 'sphincter'.


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 1:00 pm
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i wondered the same Hora. Chrisdiesel to the forum!


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 1:01 pm
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Well everytime I put an old car in for a MOT I used to chuck two bottles in and rag it. There must be some science behind the product and even if it was only part effective- it still helps?


 
Posted : 25/07/2013 1:02 pm

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